2005 Audi A6 C6: After coding euro tails -> fuel lid failure

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corrado-correr

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Hi guys,
First time poster, long time Ross-Tech user. Till now, I had never come across a problem that didnt already have a solution here. So, thanks for that!

I have a US-spec 2005 A6 Sedan. The car originally came with SAE spec LED taillights. I've sense changed them out with OEM euro LED tail lights.

I want to code the new tail lights to blink the turn signal independent of the brake lights. I can and have successful done this with VCDS by subtracting 4096 (SAE Rear Lights) from the Central Convenience module coding.

Unfortunately when i do this there is an additional undesired affect, now the fuel cap door pops open every time i unlock the car. I only want my fuel door to open when i press the button on the driver door.

There's an option in VCDS for "+4194304 = Fuel Lid Unlock via Driver Door Button" but when i try to add this I get an error that the codding is not accepted.

FYI, I found this thread: Link. In it this guy says...
No. 20: Fuel tank flap control
When the bit is set the fuel tank flap is unlocked via a button in the driver's door (USA vehicles). When the bit is not set the fuel tank flap is locked and unlocked via the central locking.
YZ Note
The fuel tank flap control is only codeable as from control unit software version 0120. If software version 0120 is not yet installed in the control unit, select Fuel tank flap lock/release via central locking.
This probably means I have the older sw and will not be able to code the euro tail lights as i want them without the funky fuel lid behavior.

My question is: does anyone have any experience with alternate coding I can try? Is there an alternate WSC?

So far I've tried:
-4096 SAE Rear Lights (PR-A8U) --> fuel lid failure
-4096 SAE Rear Lights (PR-A8U) and -131072 Highline (LED Rear Lights) --> fuel lid failure
-4096 SAE Rear Lights (PR-A8U) and +4194304 Fuel Lid Unlock via Driver Door Button --> coding not accepted.

Here are a few links to threads on similar topics but without a solution, or a solution that doesn't work for me.
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?9927-05-Audi-A6-aftermarket-led-tail-lights-retrofit
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?5591-A6-4F-full-LED-Tail-Light-retrofit


Here is my full auto scan:
Code:
Tuesday,08,October,2019,19:58:16:00426
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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VIN: WAUDG74F55N056396   License Plate: 0KYZ06
Mileage: 230820km-143424mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56
          61 62 72 76 77

VIN: WAUDG74F55N056396   Mileage: 230820km-143424miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (AUK)       Labels:. 06E-910-559-BKH.clb
   Part No SW: 4F2 910 559 B    HW: 4F1 907 559 A
   Component: 3.2l V6 FSI         0030  
   Revision: --H15---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02116 444 64487
   VCID: 2B5553708A049A1722-807E

2 Faults Found:
005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
               P1653 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 40
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 227753 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.02
                    Time: 16:08:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 736 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 130.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 94.5°C
                        Idle
                    Load: 16.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

000773 - Cylinder 5 
               P0305 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 229688 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.02
                    Time: 10:42:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 864 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 179.9 mg/str
                    Temperature: 31.5°C
                        Idle
                    Time: 51.2 s
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 H    HW: 09L 927 156 
   Component: AG6 09L 3.2 FSI USA 0020  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        0055481
   Coding: 0001002
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2959A97880F88807D0-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 E    HW: 4F0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0010  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0004511
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2643A24491E6A77FFD-8072

1 Fault Found:
00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 230824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.08
                    Time: 19:56:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0280
                    Hex Value: 0x4082
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x0095
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0220  
   Revision: 31050601    Serial number: 10601100628238
   Coding: 0000011
   Shop #: WSC 02116 444 82885
   VCID: 63C5FB50A2541257DA-8036

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 L
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H05 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H35 0040

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 729 B    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 0750  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 360IL047505640
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 285FAC7C9BF2B10FCF-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
   Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000582836

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0114.11.060000000100011362ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 011362ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 J
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH11 0110  
   Revision: 00000023    Serial number: 00000000065527
   Coding: 0524326
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 5BB5C3B09A242A9792-800E

1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 230824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.08
                    Time: 19:56:14

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 21.0°C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279     HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H14 0080  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0013123
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 66C3E2445166677F3D-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0150  
   Coding: 00062736
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
   Coding: 00141886
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 D    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
   Component: CD-Changer      H44 0340  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBD6018178
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1A3B86B4D59E139F49-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 B    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
   Component: 56 AIRBAG AUDI8RH28 0310  
   Revision: 09H28000    Serial number: 00359D072YB+  
   Coding: 0013622
   Shop #: WSC 22102 444 84485
   VCID: 2643A24491E6A77FFD-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0040

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332CSME051E5E639

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342CSME05624C61+

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME043A094C9

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME042D4C205

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6371VSME041E131DK

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 6381VSME0420052FC

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230  
   Revision: 00H07000    Serial number: 90025042590240
   Coding: 0002021
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 66C3E2445166677F3D-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H05 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 A    HW: 4F0 920 950 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H09 0460  
   Revision: 00200000    Serial number: 4I21290A4     
   Coding: 0067203
   Shop #: WSC 16732 002 1048576
   VCID: 1E338AA4C9B67FBFB5-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 B
   Component: Gateway         H09 0030  
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 08008049250162
   Coding: ECFE73C41B1104
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 275DAF4096ECBE77C6-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 793 B
   Component: TSG FA          H10 0020  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 7W%
   Coding: 0035435
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2959A97880F88807D0-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E    HW: 4F0 907 289 E
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H14 0090  
   Revision: 00900014    Serial number: 01001051570000
   Coding: 0424125
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2C57506C8F0A9D2F2B-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 192381 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.11.23
                    Time: 12:54:01

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 210896 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2004.06.03
                    Time: 12:04:40


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F5 910 223 B    HW: 4F5 035 223 C
   Component: DSP-High C6     H14 0220  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000200040
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 02116 444 64487
   VCID: 224BBE54FDCE5B5F91-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H09 0050  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000035314
   Coding: 0001114
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB3CAA489363FBFF5-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 792 B
   Component: TSG BF          H10 0020  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: d%
   Coding: 0035435
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2959A97880F88807D0-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 0005021
   Shop #: WSC 16732 002 1048576
   VCID: 2149B158F8C8404788-8074

1 Fault Found:
02432 - Supply Voltage for Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) 
            011 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 188
                    Mileage: 214976 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.02
                    Time: 21:02:28

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.42 V
                    Count: 116


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 A    HW: 4F0 907 357 A
   Component: AFS 1           H03 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2447B84CE7DA556FE3-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: NOSUBSYSTEM 
   Component: AFS-Modul links         

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: NOSUBSYSTEM 
   Component: AFS-Modul rechts        

1 Fault Found:
02071 - Local Databus 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 230824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.08
                    Time: 19:56:11


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 C    HW: 4F0 035 541 
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H41 0290  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 352JT047565163
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 204FB45CF3C2494F87-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
   Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H11 0490  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000059937
   Shop #: WSC 02116 444 53299
   VCID: 2345BB50E2D452579A-8076

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
   Component: von VA0  2410020536       
   Coding: 344630393135313035432056413032343130303230353336
   Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00290

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL          H09 0010  
   Coding: 0035370
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 69D9E9784078480710-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 794 
   Component: TSG HR          H09 0010  
   Coding: 0035370
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 69D9E9784078480710-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 283     HW: 4F0 919 283 
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0020  
   Revision: --.--.--    Serial number: 11730427402512
   Coding: 0001206
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 61C9F158B8480047C8-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H10 1130  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007502533
   Coding: 0010900
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 285FAC7C9BF2B10FCF-807C

No fault code found.

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The factory condition scan, or clip of 46 with the factory coding, may shed light on this but the SWL of that module is 0090 so the rejected coding may be normal per your source.

Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E HW: 4F0 907 289 E
Component: Komfortgeraet H14 0090
Revision: 00900014 Serial number: 01001051570000
Coding: 0424125
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200

Providing they aren't all zeros the WSC, Importer and Equipment numbers don't matter.

I located a Canadian market 4F25NL Audi A6 Quattro 3,2 Sedan with PR-Code 8SL Taillight assemblies with diodes (LED) (for NAR) and that 46 module was:

> Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
> Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E HW: 4F0 907 289 E
> Component: Komfortgeraet H14 0090
> Coding: 0423997

If you haven't already done so I would try that exact value. If it resolves your fuel door problem but creates new issues related to the new tails please include the factory value in your next reply.
 
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corrado-correr

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Thanks for the reply Dana.

I tried Coding 0423997, but that just removes the comfort functions with remote. Coding 0423997 - 4096 SAE Rear Lights (PR-A8U) gets the tail lights working like I want but the fuel lid still opens when the car is unlocked every time like before.

My WSC, Importer and Equipment numbers are non-zero, I have them set to: 02335 785 00200.

Is there any other place in Adaptions where the Fuel Lid Unlock via Driver Door Button can be added?

I know (for example) on the B7 on channel 61 there are these options:
+1 = Rear Mechanical Window Regulators (PR-4R5) installed
+2 = Footwell Lights (PR-QQ1) installed
+4 = Fuel Tank Lid/Flap Release Button (PR-4K2/4K8) installed

In the C6 channel 61 is only window open/close comfort options.
 
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