2012 8R Q5 OBD Mode 10 Permanent codes not shown

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Hi, I used VCDS 19.6.2 with HEX-NET to set all readiness on this car. When it went for a smog (CA) it failed for permanent DTC P0300 and P0301 misfire. I went back with VCDS into the OBD function and mode 10 permanent DTC, no codes stored. I used a Autel OBD reader and now I can see the codes in permanent codes. Has anyone seen VCDS not showing the codes before? WA1LFAFP4BA103189 8RB56A CAEB NEV 4/11. Thanks for any help or info.
 
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Please post a VCDS Auto-Scan.
 
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Here is the Auto-scan. Please let me know if and what I should log and send in.

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Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:26:15:57829
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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VIN: WA1LFAFP4BA103189   License Plate: 
Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FP-AU48 (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62
          6C 6D 72

VIN: WA1LFAFP4BA103189   Mileage: 234380km-145636miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (0-----CAEB)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 115 P    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H19 0002  
   Revision: E1H19---    
   Coding: 0121010A290F0160
   Shop #: WSC 04091 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118R0907115P 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AG.rod
   VCID: C1CA1F6D5068AF4768-8094

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 927 158 T    HW: 0BK 927 156 R
   Component: 0BK 20TFSIUSA H08 1003  
   Revision: --H08---    
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002018
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_002_AU48.rod
   VCID: CED034519136403FE5-809A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8R0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 H    HW: 8R0 907 379 H
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H06 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 121D18
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: C5C20B7D4C40836754-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CS    HW: 8K0 907 064 CS
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 090500
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 8346D56502F47D573A-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H60 0072 
   Serial number: 0511000016297007    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
   Serial number: 2311000059607009    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01050420110342
   Coding: 64112000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 804CDA6913E2664F27-80D4

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
   Revision: 10030001    Serial number: 00000000856069
   Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300001D0D0F1C460802010161000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: BC346E993F8AC2AF3B-80E8

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A    HW: 8R1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS416 110316  H11 0050 
   Serial number: 90243014110314124248
   Coding: 01DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Serial number: 11363154            
   Coding: 024D25

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000002603111021

1 Fault Found:
02258 - Door Opener Transmitter 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 220
                    Mileage: 234384 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.17
                    Time: 01:12:00


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 AA    HW: 8P0 919 475 N
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0080  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 12501108802423
   Coding: 300105
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: F8BCB2894B322E8F1F-80AC

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8R0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 655 F    HW: 8R0 959 655 F
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H44 0610  
   Serial number: 003GPD0N5032  
   Coding: 303633313432303030304A55304C38523053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416 002004
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416.rod
   VCID: C7DE01757E4C9177A6-8092

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 339 A    HW: 8R0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
   Serial number: 5810000R1100002YKH

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME5C7311136

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME5D561911F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME6E092876T

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME30061E74D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME2306536C-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME75050156T

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H17 0014  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372KCS001GF 
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: BD32639D2490CBA70C-80E8

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 920 981 G    HW: 8R0 920 981 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H20 0258  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: EK037KN3C     
   Coding: 8B1622000300D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: BE3064912996D0BF15-80EA

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AD    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117  
   Revision: EC000056    Serial number: 5600E113160587
   Coding: 00C303
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 8346D56502F47D573A-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181     HW: 8R0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
   Serial number: 00000000005650113037

1 Fault Found:
03041 - Energy Management Active 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 234385 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.06.26
                    Time: 04:28:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    10000
                    Voltage: 11.90 V
                    Count: 11


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 760 D    HW: 8R0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H07 0075  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001002377646
   Coding: 00581300000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: C2C810615D6EB45F71-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 M    HW: 8K0 959 793 M
   Component: TSG FA        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000005714723 
   Coding: 011D03205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: CAD83841655E6C1FB9-809E

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CS    HW: 8K0 907 064 CS
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0145907325    
   Coding: 0126023A20FA749484B0053200000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 8346D56502F47D573A-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0070 
   Serial number: 00000000000000378581

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE20SKB13  H02 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J394EE20SKB13  H02 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 M    HW: 8K0 959 792 M
   Component: TSG BF        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000113571727 
   Coding: 011D03205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: C9DA074D60586707B0-809C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000908285
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: B42446B917DA0AEFF3-80E0

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
   Part No: 8K0 907 357 D
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: B6207CB1C1A618FFCD-80E2

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082     HW: 4G0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H51 0052  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 471DR0B7570222
   Coding: 020007020100000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: DDF2C31DC4D0EBA76C-8088

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 C    HW: 8T1 035 664 B
   Component: H-BN-NA       H51 0116  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 490D 0B7612973
   Coding: 010200060005A1EF41000B0E000000030000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: B83C72890BB2EE8FDF-80EC

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 P
   Component: NAR 2010  0407 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8F0 919 604     HW: 8F0 919 604 
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0084 
   Serial number: 9466CV0B0552662     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 F    HW: 8T0 919 609 F
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 
   Serial number: 00000000790361      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 
   Component: CD-Database  1886 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HL        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000114666133 
   Coding: 010C03204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: C5C20B7D4C40836754-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 441 A    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: 525PA8-J12A0KI
   Coding: 1020010
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: B42446B9D7DA0AEFF3-80E0

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 827 851 B    HW: 8R0 827 851 B
   Component: J605  Master  H51 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8R0827851B    
   VCID: BB366D853A84C59732-80EE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 827 852 B    HW: 8R0 827 852 B
   Component: J756  Slave  H51 0330 
   Serial number: 8R0827852B          

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HR        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000114666130 
   Coding: 010C03204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: C5C20B7D4C40836754-8090

No fault code found.

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Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:27:00:57829
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VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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VIN: WA1LFAFP4BA103189   License Plate: 
Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 10: Permanent Fault Codes

No fault code found.
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Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:27:33:57829
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Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

No fault code found.

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Mode 07: Pending emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: No fault code found.

Address 7E9: No fault code found.


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Mode 07: Pending emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: No fault code found.

Address 7E9: No fault code found.

Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:28:00:57829
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VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
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Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 07: Pending emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: No fault code found.

Address 7E9: No fault code found.

Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:29:08:57829
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VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
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Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 9 : Calibration Identification

Type 02 - VIN : WA1LFAFP4BA103189 (Address E8)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 8R0907115P Q0002 (Address E8)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 8R0158T 100322   (Address E9)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : 35256D79 (Address E8)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : 4954B6B1 (Address E9)
Type 08 - In-use performance tracking :
    OBD Monitoring Conditions Encountered count : 1896
    Ignition cycle count : 6538
    Conditions completion count / Specified conditions encountered count
         Catalyst monitor bank 1 : 3322 / 1881
         Catalyst monitor bank 2 : 0 / 0
         O2 Sensor monitor bank 1 : 2430 / 1896
         O2 Sensor monitor bank 2 : 0 / 0
         EGR-VVT monitor : 4808 / 1896
         AIR monitor : 0 / 0
         EVAP monitor : 48 / 247
         Secondary O2 Sensor monitor bank 1 : 2829 / 1881
         Secondary O2 Sensor monitor bank 2 : 0 / 0
Type 0A - Controller Name : ECM-EngineControl (Address E8)
Type 0A - Controller Name : TCM-TransmisCtrl (Address E9)
Tuesday,08,October,2019,16:29:30:57829
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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Mileage: 234380km-145636mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring:  Passed
Fuel System:  Passed
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring:  Passed
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring:  Passed
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Passed
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Passed
Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Passed
 
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This makes little sense to me, with no faults showing in native VAG mode, none in any of the three generic OBD modes, and OBD Readiness explicitly claiming "Number of DTCs stored: 0".

Is there any history of misfire codes in this car?

-Uwe-
 
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I am sure it did have misfires at some point. This is a shop car and has been sitting around for a while.

Here is a pic of the codes.

 
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This makes little sense to me, with no faults showing in native VAG mode, none in any of the three generic OBD modes, and OBD Readiness explicitly claiming "Number of DTCs stored: 0".

Is there any history of misfire codes in this car?

-Uwe-
Uwe would it help to log anything and send it. I would be glad to help further development.
 
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Well, what would be most interesting is a log of what those other tools are doing when they pull those codes. If you were local, I'd say bring the car by so we can have a look at it with some other tools we have, but I think your distance to us precludes that.

Let me ask this in a straightforward manner: Is is this ECU tuned?

-Uwe-
 
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Well, what would be most interesting is a log of what those other tools are doing when they pull those codes. If you were local, I'd say bring the car by so we can have a look at it with some other tools we have, but I think your distance to us precludes that.

Let me ask this in a straightforward manner: Is is this ECU tuned?

-Uwe-
No everything is stock. I will keep an eye out for another car with a PD DTC and then see if it is detected by VCDS and report back.
 
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I am sure it did have misfires at some point. This is a shop car and has been sitting around for a while.

Here is a pic of the codes.

Thanks for the details, this is helping us to look into this.
 
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