2009 VW Tiguan - No Start - Multiple Codes

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Good evening.

I got a call from my wife the other day stating that her car wouldn't start. I immediately got off work and went to see what the situation was. After attempting to start it, to no avail, we had it towed home.
I ran the following scan on it and saw the dreaded P0016 code populate, so there it sat as I have had zero time to work on it.

Code:
Tuesday,24,September,2019,19:13:56:06683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   License Plate: 
Mileage: 184910km-114897mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65 72

VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   Mileage: 184910km-114897miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 026 G    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
   Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    8217  
   Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Coding: 0423010A19070160
   Shop #: WSC 14112 002 1048576
   VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A

3 Faults Found:
008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
               P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 163
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 180947 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:26:27

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1020 /min
                    Load: 32.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 68.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.462 V

008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
               P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 162
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 181039 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 09:17:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2478 /min
                    Load: 43.1 %
                    Speed: 42.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 96.0°C
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
               P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 52
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 184361 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:32:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1212 /min
                    Load: 28.6 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 73.0°C
                    Temperature: 53.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 KM    HW: 09G 927 750 KM
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1394  
   Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 06569C8E04268C87F05-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 L    HW: 5N0 614 517 L
   Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0006  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 00000001228087
   Coding: 0002329
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3728214A334C250F3B3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HR    HW: 1K0 820 047 HR
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
   Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA0FD7A4FE4C16F9FB-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008528988
   Coding: 108C0FA340041C0047190000140000000008F3475C400104390000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 323E105ED82EC0270CD-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 130608  012 0203  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 01287  

1 Fault Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 178
                    Mileage: 184912 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 B    HW: 5N0 959 655 B
   Component: J234__200 VW10 HI   1815  
   Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039EPAJ7Y6+  
   Coding: 0012336
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3C223E660A6A0657D61-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0004

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000000S45

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0008.03.080000100000640039ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 640039ÿ†6333FTS647731458 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 31458 ÿ†6343FTS642541468 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 41468 ÿ†6353ETS67KTLTVNP ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: LTVNP ÿ†6363ETS64DFLTVNH ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: LTVNH ÿ†6373JTS6GVPCTVNH ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ†6383JTS6MBMCTVNH ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0010022
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 77A8E14A73CCE50FFB3-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1224  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Coding: 0007204
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0850506B4
   Coding: FD807F070002026002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1224  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701     HW: 5N0 959 701 
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 72BED05E18AE8027CCD-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
   Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171300055601
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 46536 002 1048576
   VCID: 42DE409E688E70A79CD-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0222  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 9380078852832C1B1B04058FB0880F0C88DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap 
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Mileage: 180947 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:57:31


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702     HW: 5N0 959 702 
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 73B0D55A67B4892FC7B-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005  
   Revision:   H08       Serial number: 00000000073967
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 D    HW: 1K0 035 161 D
   Component: Radio DE2       017 0021  
   Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H6345021
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 201AEA1686C242B7EA9-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 A    HW: 5N0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
   VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 A    HW: 5N0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
   VCID: 36362C4E3446DC07205-8062

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

I'm not super concerned about the intake flap position sensor, as I've changed that intake 3 times so far and after about a year or so it fails. I tend to believe that's not the problem.
What worries me is the following:
000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON

I know this engine has a tendency to throw the timing chain, but would that cause a no-start so abruptly. She claims the car was running fine before that and wasn't exhibiting any issues. The only idiot light that came on was the check engine, but that has been on for a while according to her, however, she didn't tell me because "she thought it was ok and just needed an oil change". Yeah ok, thanks, woman.

Anyway, wondering if any of you suspect anything else from this scan, aside from the infamous chain tensioner issues. If that is the problem, we will likely be getting rid of the car and moving on, as I don't have the capacity to fix it right now.
 
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Have you checked for useful life warranty, reimbursement for your aforementioned issues you stated and the JPPSG yet?
 
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I'm not sure what the useful life warranty is, but I did check with VWGOA for any recalls and extended warranties I may be missing. I spoke to a representative via chat who confirmed that the vehicle is out of warranty due to being at 114k miles and being just over 10 years old. With that said, we will likely not receive any reimbursement through VW.

Thank you for the helpful link to your guide. I will go through what's been done and provide a little background, using your guide as a reference.

Info from your guide including my answers. Apologies if this isn't what you are looking for.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ JPPSG GUIDE AND ANSWERS \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

VW / Tiguan / 2009 / S.

Step 1 Tag of PR-Build data picture posted
WVGAV75N59W503659

Step 2 Status of car stock or modified in any way? If so list!
Car is stock

Step 3 "VCDS" COMPLETE Auto-Scan in code tags!
Code:
Tuesday,24,September,2019,19:13:56:06683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   License Plate: 
Mileage: 184910km-114897mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65 72

VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   Mileage: 184910km-114897miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 026 G    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
   Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    8217  
   Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Coding: 0423010A19070160
   Shop #: WSC 14112 002 1048576
   VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A

3 Faults Found:
008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
               P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 163
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 180947 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:26:27

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1020 /min
                    Load: 32.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 68.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.462 V

008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
               P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 162
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 181039 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 09:17:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2478 /min
                    Load: 43.1 %
                    Speed: 42.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 96.0°C
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
               P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 52
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 184361 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:32:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1212 /min
                    Load: 28.6 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 73.0°C
                    Temperature: 53.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 KM    HW: 09G 927 750 KM
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1394  
   Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 06569C8E04268C87F05-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 L    HW: 5N0 614 517 L
   Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0006  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 00000001228087
   Coding: 0002329
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3728214A334C250F3B3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HR    HW: 1K0 820 047 HR
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
   Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA0FD7A4FE4C16F9FB-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008528988
   Coding: 108C0FA340041C0047190000140000000008F3475C400104390000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 323E105ED82EC0270CD-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 130608  012 0203  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 01287  

1 Fault Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 178
                    Mileage: 184912 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 B    HW: 5N0 959 655 B
   Component: J234__200 VW10 HI   1815  
   Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039EPAJ7Y6+  
   Coding: 0012336
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3C223E660A6A0657D61-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0004

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000000S45

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0008.03.080000100000640039ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 640039ÿ†6333FTS647731458 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 31458 ÿ†6343FTS642541468 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 41468 ÿ†6353ETS67KTLTVNP ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: LTVNP ÿ†6363ETS64DFLTVNH ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: LTVNH ÿ†6373JTS6GVPCTVNH ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ†6383JTS6MBMCTVNH ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0010022
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 77A8E14A73CCE50FFB3-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1224  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Coding: 0007204
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0850506B4
   Coding: FD807F070002026002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1224  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701     HW: 5N0 959 701 
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 72BED05E18AE8027CCD-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
   Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171300055601
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 46536 002 1048576
   VCID: 42DE409E688E70A79CD-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0222  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 9380078852832C1B1B04058FB0880F0C88DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap 
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Mileage: 180947 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:57:31


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702     HW: 5N0 959 702 
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 73B0D55A67B4892FC7B-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005  
   Revision:   H08       Serial number: 00000000073967
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 D    HW: 1K0 035 161 D
   Component: Radio DE2       017 0021  
   Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H6345021
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 201AEA1686C242B7EA9-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 A    HW: 5N0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
   VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 A    HW: 5N0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
   VCID: 36362C4E3446DC07205-8062

No fault code found.

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Step 4 Describe recent repairs or services, problem at hand, & attempts at repair.
Recent repairs include water pump repair replacement on 4/2019, intake manifold replacement 12/2018

Step 5 Are parts OEM or AFT? If so, "what", and what origin?
All parts are OEM

Step 6 Identify specific issues to be addressed/concerned about, or say ALL.
The specific and immediate issue is the no-start and the following code found in the scan:
Code:
000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
Step 7 Now that you jumped through the first few hoops of fire, did you check the FUSES/Battery connections?
The battery connection is good. The fuses and relays have not been checked yet.


I have a solid understanding of mechanics, as I was an aircraft mechanic and work on the majority of my vehicles. With that said, I am by no means a VW tech and the system is fairly new to me.

Current symptoms are no start. I haven't been able to perform a compression test. I pulled the coils and there is no oil on them. I checked to make sure the camshaft position sensor was plugged in and the wires were not damaged, but I haven't checked for any of the electrical systems as of yet. I have not been into the engine as of yet to know if there is FOD, and I didn't see anything in the oil that looks troubling

I am assuming my first step will be to check electrical systems, and then move to fuel. Would the be accurate?

Depending on the complexity of the work and cost of parts I will either be doing the work myself or selling the vehicle as parts.

I have downloaded all PDF's from VW relating to the Tiguan and have them at my disposal.

I do know how to read schematics

The VCDS firmware was having issues updating upon initially plugging the dongle into the vehicle, but they seemed to resolve themselves after several restarts.
 
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Low and behold, it was Barbra Streisand!

Just kidding.

I haven't performed a compression check yet and there doesn't appear to be any metallic particles in the oil. I haven't checked the injectors either, as I haven't pulled the intake.
 
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I would not bother to check electrical yet... Do mechanical tests.. Compression and / or timing check. With this engine and known chain issues you're most likely looking @ tensioner failure.

Have you had the upgraded chain tensioner put in? Not that it really matters TBH. Intake manifold is not your starting issue.

My money is on tensioner failed, timing out and contact has been made with pistons. Not uncommon for them to be perfectly OK and then next minute no compression, no start. Worst one I've had was 75,000KM MK6 GTI stopped on highway no warnings... All valves hit so hard they bent into cylinder head......

Compression check and/or timing check will confirm. Goodluck.
 
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Did you know that every once and a while we see a plugged CAT & can cause the car to not run and have the correlation DTC's too?
Are not firmware updates required for this car that imply a defect resulting in a worthy NHTSA inquiry for safety under the Fast Act or even EPA for failing to comport with CAA as an ADR?

Did you know that it looks like someone negated their Responsibility's on the OEM and did you know that load requests matter with firmware updates for aforementioned torque requests; that are also MIL related when said updates are not done to compliment the transmission & that a TCU can set or be vicariously responsible for such conditions or setting the MIL inducing mechanical defect in engine or power train?

Splendid isn't it?
Pardon me but have you been here?

https://literature.vw.com/calibration_lookup.asp

Calibration Data Lookup

Test Group:
Module CAL ID CVN Engine Code Test Group
TCM 09G 927 750 GG 1702 01C6965F 9ADXV02.03UA
TCM 09G 927 750 KM 1703 7289DEDD 9ADXV02.03UA
TCM 09G 927 750 KN 1704 2C640E62 9ADXV02.03UA
TCM 09G 927 750 KM 2191 E5846266 9VWXJ02.0UA
TCM 09G 927 750 KM 2191 E5846266 9VWXJ02.0UA

Or here?

https://vag-flashinfo.de/index.php?partno=+09G+927+750+KM&as=


Are you sure you don't want to demand your MTV or free repair and point out this lack of attention of the OEM's own work steps for a free engine?
Did you read the entire JPPSG thread?

:rolleyes:
Don't you make me get a unilateral conformity application.

Doesn't this sound like a negated recall or campaign now and safety recalls are 15/150k so don't you have a valid argument to litigate, someone to 187?
"one-eighty-seven"

Don't you have a job to do?

 
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Thanks for the suggestion. I don't currently have a compression gauge, but will be getting one at the store this weekend to see if there are any compression issues and will update the thread after that. I guess the path I was taking was, test things that don't require money first, since we are on a single income right now. Trying to budget this as appropriate and take the path of least resistance first. My methodology is likely flawed, however
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Wouldn't a free repair or possible reimbursement with consistent valid documentation compiled, be the right action along with what you aforementioned?

Don't you have a job to do?

Did you know campaigns and recalls or useful life expectations are reimbursable, along with the cost of diagnosis?
 
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I would not bother to check electrical yet... Do mechanical tests.. Compression and / or timing check. With this engine and known chain issues you're most likely looking @ tensioner failure.

Have you had the upgraded chain tensioner put in? Not that it really matters TBH. Intake manifold is not your starting issue.

My money is on tensioner failed, timing out and contact has been made with pistons. Not uncommon for them to be perfectly OK and then next minute no compression, no start. Worst one I've had was 75,000KM MK6 GTI stopped on highway no warnings... All valves hit so hard they bent into cylinder head......

Compression check and/or timing check will confirm. Goodluck.
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't currently have a compression gauge, but will be getting one at the store this weekend to see if there are any compression issues and will update the thread after that. I guess the path I was taking was, test things that don't require money first, since we are on a single income right now. Trying to budget this as appropriate and take the path of least resistance first. My methodology is likely flawed, however.
 
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Wouldn't a free repair or possible reimbursement with consistent valid documentation compiled, be the right action along with what you aforementioned?
Thank you for the suggestion Jack. I wasn't aware that safety recalls and litigation were valid for vehicles with 15y / 150k. I will definitely do some research on that and see how it goes. To have this fixed on VW's dime would be ideal, as in my eyes its gross negligence with the engineering of the 2.0 tsi. Every class action I have read seems to point to a 10 year 100k limitation, which in today's age seems quite low for such an ever present problem in this engine.

I truly appreciate the assistance thus far, and all the excellent resources you have been providing, even if I only comprehend 1/2 of the acronyms. :)

As for the JPPSG thread, I only read the first page as I was trying to post the reply. I will scour it deeper to see what kind of information I can acquire.
 
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Isn't a well placed & warranted argument cheaper than an engine?

If a warranty extension was granted, did this not admit a defect existed and was pervasive across all platforms?

If a work operation was negated, would this not be a valid argument?
 
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Vehicle Identification No.WVGAV75N59W503659
ModelTiguan
TIG
Date of production15.07.2008
Model year2009
Sales type5N17V1
Engine CodeCCTA
Transmission CodeJWA


Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2


https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=19538&flag=1


Control F3 and search ( 150,000 ) or ( Useful Life ) see anything? :rolleyes:
 
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Vehicle Identification No.WVGAV75N59W503659
ModelTiguan
TIG
Date of production15.07.2008
Model year2009
Sales type5N17V1
Engine CodeCCTA
Transmission CodeJWA


Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2


https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=19538&flag=1


Control F3 and search ( 150,000 ) or ( Useful Life ) see anything? :rolleyes:
Thanks for the heads up on that. As you posted this, I was taking the preemptive strike of submitting an NHTSA report against VW. We shall see where that goes. I may just get off work early today and grab a compression gauge to see where things stand v.s. waiting for the weekend.
 
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It wouldn't be too hard to establish that the Refueling, EVAP/PCV system or things such as the N80, LDP functions or the actual MPG ratings are suspect for that application certification, further being false & are clearly not without a widespread deficiency, oh & that are most likely causing your intake problem now would it not?

Be sure to ask NHTSA how when a chain drops & as a vicarious result it takes out the function of the brake vacuum pump & no different than in later cars which were recalled already, right? so its not like it isn't safety related now isn't it?

What's this all about anyway below? :rolleyes:

https://www.ttnews.com/articles/vw-pay-100-million-restate-mileage-us-gas-powered-cars


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eage-labels-on-98-000-gas-powered-cars-in-u-s


https://media.vw.com/en-us/releases/605



 
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Well, four months later, I finally ran a compression test. Had some serious family stuff going on and couldn't focus on this. Anyway, compression is zero on all four cylinders, so that is awesome (sarcasm). When it turns over, you can hear the valves or something smacking around. The engine is toast. VAG will do absolutely nothing after numerous calls and emails. NHTSA reports have been filed and all i hear is crickets. Dealership will obviously work on it but at what cost. I do not plan on tackling this as a DIY. Talked to my local VW indy shop, they said they advised to sell it as parts or on peddle.com. Said its not even worth replacing it as the cost for parts and labor far exceed the value of the vehicle. Anyway, thats it. The car is going to the scrap heap and I am done. Thanks for all the help.
 
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Did you express how dangerous of a situation this imposes to NHTSA in addition to issues with GHG output to EPA before failure in follow up complaints?

Did you talk to your State DMV and DOT or a lawyer?
 
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I contacted all who would listen. The story is that the Tiguan is outside of the 10 year 100k extended warranty that is specific to this failure. All parties state that nothing will be done. Why would I pursue litigation on something that has already been litigated and determined as a reasonable solution. Does this need to be a recall? Of course it does. Will it go beyond 10 years and 100k? likely never. DMV states there is nothing they can do about it. NHTSA has been made aware of the issue countless times.

Now, if you can point to a source that states VW honored the repair outside of the 10 year 100k extended warranty, then I would be more than happy to continue conversation. Otherwise, it's all a moot point and quite frankly a waste of time.

This on top of the constant faulty water pumps, the constant intake manifold issues. The main seal issues. This engine is trash and I am officially done.
 
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