Problem with ABS Module after being sent out for rebuild.

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Got a 2004 Passat 4 motion 1.8T AWM
ABS lost all communication common problem with these.
Never was a any problem before this as I have worked on car for years.
Reinstall same ABS module after sending out for rebuild and I am getting these codes they will not clear also have the yellow triangle with (!) on in dash.
Before all I had was beeping and ABS light and Brake light on. (Due to no communication with ABS module)

Just don't know if it's car or screw up on rebuild?

Thanks


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Tuesday,24,September,2019,19:04:33:45379
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: WVWPD63B34P321241   License Plate: 
Mileage: 339480km-210943mi   Repair Order: ron 04 passat



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Chassis Type: 3B (3B - VW Passat B5 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
         
 
VIN: WVWPD63B34P321241   Mileage: 339480km-210943miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-906-018-AWM.clb
   Part No SW: 4B0 906 018 DQ    HW: 8E0 909 018 A
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9306446
   Coding: 0016751
   Shop #: WSC 06436 444 84396
   VCID: 73B3DEA8C7AE3CAFC7B-5160

1 Fault Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 008 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 927 156 AQ
   Component: AG5 01V 1.8l5VT USA 1213  
   Coding: 0001102
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 75B7E0B0C9DA229FE9F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 614 517 H
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      3428  
   Coding: 04277
   Shop #: WSC 00028  
   VCID: 2615F7FC41FC1907905-51F2

1 Fault Found:
18031 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1623 - 35-00 - No Communication

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
   Component: 09 AIRBAG VW61 04   0003  
   Coding: 12345
   Shop #: WSC 00028  
   VCID: 2411EDF437C0EB178E1-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 920 929 B
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04  
   Coding: 15235
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2615F7FC41FC1907905-513C
   WVWPD63B34P321241     VWZ7Z0D9306446

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00028  
   VCID: 70B9D1A4B3B807B73A9-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 08 Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00028  
   VCID: 372B2AB89656908F3B3-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
   Component: 08 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
   Component: 08 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
   Component: 08 Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
   Component: 08 Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component:    Radio PM6        0016  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00028  
   VCID: 2411EDF437C0EB178E1-513C

No fault code found.

End(Elapsed Time: 04:58, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V, udsna)--

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[h=2]Problem with ABS Module after being sent out for rebuild.[/h]
Got a 2004 Passat 4 motion 1.8T AWM
ABS lost all communication common problem with these.
Never was a any problem before this as I have worked on car for years.
Reinstall same ABS module after sending out for rebuild and I am getting these codes they will not clear also have the yellow triangle with (!) on in dash.
Before all I had was beeping and ABS light and Brake light on. (Due to no communication with ABS module)

Just don't know if it's car or screw up on rebuild?

Thanks​

Stan Lee Marvel Comics,

Did you check the block 125 values on all modules and check the twisted set on W-CAN in car by overlay to verify?
 
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Block 125 of ECU or ABS

Before ABS rebuild I had ABS missing in a lot more modules.

Also reading ABS is no longer a problem?

I will look at 125 tomorrow but all modules?

Good Luck
 
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Block 125 of ECU or ABS

Before ABS rebuild I had ABS missing in a lot more modules.

Also reading ABS is no longer a problem?

I will look at 125 tomorrow but all modules?

Good Luck
Power-train BUS but yeah cluster likes to go FUBAR too for 3B0........ BOTH!

Yes, ABS in this car supports K line and CAN internal HIGH/LOW network among modules in twisted pair too!

1 Fault Found:
18031 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1623 - 35-00 - No Communication
Like the fault states!

Check the CCM 0x46 & airbag 0x15 on floor Stan Lee for water ingress or corroded wires taking out K-LINE among modules or Radio 0x56 sometimes too!

Faults are indicated between 0x01 and 0x03 so go there first and try overlay too to bridge the gateway to test with termination.

It communicates with the scan tool via K-Line, not CAN.

-Uwe-

Yes it does but also among CAN between modules :rolleyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/dsW-K8Ttz/K-line-and-W-CAN.png?dl=1



 
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Thanks Guy’s.

Anytime you can teach this stupid coal cracker new stuff it’s appreciated!

Never really had to do any Can Gateway work for communication problems before so I was lost.
I never had to use measuring block 125 before and that was cool and a major help.
All modules on gateway showed “0” for ABS. ABS measuring block 125 showed “0” for steering, engine, trans and instruments.

So gateway can’t see ABS and ABS can’t see any module on gateway.

Having worked on this car for years and never any ABS problems till a no communication problem. Having ABS rebuilt fixed the “K” line communication problem.
I really didn’t think wiring was the problem or water.
Years ago I did all the water intrusion maintenance. Just has to be done or we all know the results!

I really didn’t want to do the twisted pair overlay because I am already losing my ASS on this problem.
So I did it the coal cracker way first. Sorry Jack! LOL

I just plugged another 5.7 ABS module in without installing it.
Bingo! Measuring block 125 shows ABS was present in all modules and ABS now sees all modules on the gateway.
Just of course ABS code for ABS not coded to the car.

So it’s a bad rebuild of the ABS module. Communication on “K” line was fixed but somethings wrong with the High and Low Can coming out of module.

So I will see what re-builder has to say? Or install and program the used module which I really don’t want to do.

I will follow up with end result.

Again Thanks Uwe and Jack!
Anytime I learn new stuff is a great day!!!

Good Luck
 
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This is why JPPSG!

ALWAYS ANALYSE WORK HISTORY & BACK TRACE WORK STEPS!

FOD induced wins!




The lesson here is verify the part as aforementioned & before install, that it talks and all other modules are happy in VCDS!
 
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