Cascade a electrical failures fixed but now no steering angle signal

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You changed the mini harness to the ignition switch too, if that is indeed the case, why not just change 0x16 with correct part number and possibly 0x09 or terminal relays for the code issues on Terminal 75 X and 15 issues?

Why are you dicking around with an entire steering column and wrong part number?
 
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i laid the knowing working column under the existing one in the car and when it solved the issue of the cascade of failures
i swapped it into the car, it was only after that i noticed the issue with lost steering angle sensing

if you mean steering control module when you say 0x16 I did try a "new" one
as for the "code issues on Terminal 75 X and 15 " you mean the outboard power distribution block with all the relays above the left drivers foot
that complete unit was changed out. (prior to the column change)

it was after this that i discovered how the remote start would keep everything running narrowing the problem down to the steering control module.

now that the column is swapped out how do you explain the return of the cascade of electrical failures with the old steering control module in the new column
yet the known working steering control module in the old column along with 2 others that i tried, all had a problem in that column yet the known good column and its
module has made the electrical failures go away.

I am at a loss as to what to do next other than to try different steering angle sensors with the old steering control module to try to get sensing back and go from there.
 
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i suppose the cascade of failures could be explained that it following to the new column and the known working steering control module
not fixing the cascade issue on the old column that it was a combination of the old staaring control module and the mini harness to the ignition switch both being bad
but its hard to see the exact same failures happening in the known working column and the old steering control module with this columns good mini harness

god that hard to follow
bottom line is it would be nice to have a plan as to what to try next
 
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am i totally wrong ?
i checked with vw parts using the vin numbers from both the car i am working on and the donor car that the known working column came from
and the parts department said based on the vin numbers the steering control module is the same in both cars.
or is there an updated part that works in both cars and the two old ones are not interchangeable ?
 
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Is this remote start system aftermarket???

Where is it wired in???

Are you sure it's not causing trouble when it's NOT used to start the car???
 
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Is this remote start system aftermarket???

Where is it wired in???

Are you sure it's not causing trouble when it's NOT used to start the car???
its aftermarket but i removed it completely during my efforts to solve this problem which made no difference.
i have thought i had solved the issues a couple times after having changed parts. at which point i reinstalled the remote start.
after words discovering that temperature early on had an effect on the cascade of electrical items being shut down.
if it was cold out the issues wouldnt show up some times for hours and on a hot day the issues would be immediate .
 
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I looked up your parts based on your vin number and didn't show what you have sir, didn't you see that?

Does PR code listed, show as being the same in your cars white PR code tag?
 
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I looked up your parts based on your vin number and didn't show what you have sir, didn't you see that?

Does PR code listed, show as being the same in your cars white PR code tag?
all i know is i went to the dealer with both vin numbers and the part number for the steering control module is the same for both. now if its a
updated part that works in both and the originals wont interchange i dont know.

i hate craniums whats the PR
i can only assume the tag in the trunk?
 
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1K0 953 549 AL is the known good steering control module
1K0 953 549 AR is the original
1K0 953 549 AH is the "new" replacement which acted just like the AR

i will call the dealer again and ask more question about interchangeability
 
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ok i called the dealer using the vin numbers of both cars the replacement part is the same for both cars
and is 1K0 953 549 AL
1K0 953 549 AR is what came in the problem car
and
1K0 953 549 AJ came in the known good.
the parts manager said that they should be interchangeable since they are both replaced by the same part.
But i am thinking maybe you are right and they are not compatible and the new AL version has software for both where the
originals dont..
i think i am going to just order a new AL version and see what happens.
the new one that i ordered before is a AH which no longer shows up for anything that i can find so i have no idea how i ended up with that one.
will check back once i get the new part and see what happens , what could possibly go wrong? other than spending money.
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crap OK
i missed this line
PART NUMBER IS NOT INTERCHANGEABLE WITH REPLACEMENT ( FORWARD ONLY OR LINEAR SUPER SESSION ) :rolleyes:

on a side note i tried the AH module. set the coding and it seems like it wants to work
everything is working but the steering doesnt want to reset the flashing yellow and red wheel in the dash is changing with steering changes
but it wont reset.
unless i am doing it wrong.. ya ya i know you are going to say the only thing i am doing wrong is using the wrong part:)

we might get this figured out yet
 
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wait a minute!
the part that came in this car is an AR
the one that vw would sell me based on the vin is a AL
is the order in the list not oldest to newest? making the AR newer?
 
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crap OK
i missed this line
PART NUMBER IS NOT INTERCHANGEABLE WITH REPLACEMENT ( FORWARD ONLY OR LINEAR SUPER SESSION ) :rolleyes:

on a side note i tried the AH module. set the coding and it seems like it wants to work
everything is working but the steering doesnt want to reset the flashing yellow and red wheel in the dash is changing with steering changes
but it wont reset.
unless i am doing it wrong.. ya ya i know you are going to say the only thing i am doing wrong is using the wrong part:)

we might get this figured out yet

wait a minute!
the part that came in this car is an AR
the one that vw would sell me based on the vin is a AL
is the order in the list not oldest to newest? making the AR newer?

Please stop equivocating or are you just kidding with me?






I'll reiterate okay?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...g-angle-signal&p=185390&viewfull=1#post185390

Do you walk to school or take a bag lunch?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Equivocation
 
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I guess i am that dumb

wrong column? what exactly is wrong about it? the wiper controls / signal stalk / cruise / ignition switch / mini harness/ are all the same so no issue there,
maybe an issue with the steering control module not being the right one, will this cause damage elsewhere?
i reused the old steering wheel and clock spring because this car didnt have controls on the wheel.
there isnt much else that will create a comparability issue

as for a legacy scan ya maybe i failed to do this, i am no expert with the vcds .

you feel i should have changed the ignition switch and mini harness , yes i changed the switch which didnt fix the issue, ok maybe the mini harness might of helped.
turns out it was a combination of both the steering control module and the mini harness...
because so much has been changed, more than once for some items in this car,by more than one shop/ person its more difficult to deal with.
when i tested a column i happened to have, and i appeared to solved the initial issue i threw it in.
its in now and i might as well work with it. as far as i can see its now just an issue with getting the right steering control module.

your stand at this point is i need the 1k0 953 549 AL module before i do anything else or is it FOD ed to the point the whole thing should be scrapped?

my intention isnt to piss anyone off, i appreciate help that can be offered
assume that, yes i am that dumb and spell it out for me.
 
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I thought I asked the right questions & that are self evident, further pointed to exact information based from VIN number, no & that you should use the RTFB and correct parts as per required by dealer?

The forum is not a substitute for using the RTFB and direct answers you seek are there with continuity, are they not?

Sometimes in life you don't always get exactly what you want, huh?

May I suggest another approach?





I'll reiterate okay?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post185390

Do you go here or by bus?
 
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It may, or may not, be of much assistance but I located two scans form this car back in 2015. I wouldn't typically post scans sent via e-mail into forum .. but I will in this instance.

Per the email description; Before clearing faults
Code:
Thursday,24,September,2015,21:12:29:59579
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0
Data version: 20150311
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   License Plate: NOEL
Mileage: 256770km-159549mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   Mileage: 256770km-159549miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 1010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AC    HW: 028 101 223 9
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000DG  7551  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 64CDB5F1A7B30401EA7-8031

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 043     HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1126  
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000607070561
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 51A36C25C80181A9B11-8004

1 Fault Found:
28775 - No Communication with Gear Selector Module 
            U0103 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 33
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73EFC6AD125D93B963D-8026

1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 FJ
   Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 71E3CCA56841A1A9911-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 P    HW: 3C0 937 049 P
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000000439073
   Coding: 10018E234004150007140000001400000008730B5C0000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 36693FB941AFC691843-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 270906 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

2 Faults Found:
00093 - Terminal 15 for Starting Relevant Consumers 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 13.65 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02403 - Terminal 15 for Interior 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 13.65 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6C AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D05WCD9  
   Coding: 0013891
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6CDDDDD14F634C41A27-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME121A7E74H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1251677FG

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0A591B3BH

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0A6362566

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME0A565251.

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5F12510

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AR    HW: 1K0 953 549 AR
   Component: J0527           035 0070  
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 020193695DE7AA3178B-FFFF


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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Coding: 0023303
   Shop #: WSC 91590 999 52559
   VCID: 326103A9ADC7DAB1A8B-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 31001068020403
   Coding: 3F3F0B4007001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5D1DD18FE38C41E27-8079

5 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:14:29

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:15:38

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:17:53

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:27:20

01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:27:53


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326103A9ADC7DAB1A8B-8067

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 31987 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:15:07


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1127  
   Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000584968925
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3B7F2E8D7A8D1BF97BD-806E

4 Faults Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 41
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 195985 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00105 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Drivers Side 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 38
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 254645 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 346D05B157D3D481BA7-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0202  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1F900F880106083F0D040F8FB0880F0488FCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 71E3CCA56841A1A9911-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

2 Faults Found:
00830 - Convertible Top Control Module (J256) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:14:36

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:15:39


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1127  
   Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000563068925
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3C7D2D917F831CC1727-8069

3 Faults Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00110 - Right Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L132) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 249278 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 256497 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 B    HW: 1K0 035 161 B
   Component: Radio DE2       014 0017  
   Revision: 00014000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7F6166885
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1E39C719C95F6ED17C3-804B

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1115  
   Revision: 12004001    Serial number: 00000000298069
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3E792799699F0ED15C3-806B

1 Fault Found:
00934 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Left (V26) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 41
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1115  
   Revision: 12005001    Serial number: 00000000369924
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3F875A9D6E9507D9575-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5B10D5B4F98549F59-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:29)--------------------------
After clearing faults:
Code:
Thursday,24,September,2015,21:15:55:59579
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VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0
Data version: 20150311
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VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   License Plate: NOEL2
Mileage: 256770km-159549mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   Mileage: 256770km-159549miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 1010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AC    HW: 028 101 223 9
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000DG  7551  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 64CDB5F1A7B30401EA7-8031

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 043     HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1126  
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000607070561
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 51A36C25C80181A9B11-8004

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73EFC6AD125D93B963D-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 FJ
   Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 71E3CCA56841A1A9911-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 P    HW: 3C0 937 049 P
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000000439073
   Coding: 10018E234004150007140000001400000008730B5C0000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 36693FB941AFC691843-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 270906 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

2 Faults Found:
00093 - Terminal 15 for Starting Relevant Consumers 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 256776 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02403 - Terminal 15 for Interior 
            006 - Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 256776 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6C AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D05WCD9  
   Coding: 0013891
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6CDDDDD14F634C41A27-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME121A7E74H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1251677FG

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0A591B3BH

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0A6362566

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME0A565251.

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5F12510

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AR    HW: 1K0 953 549 AR
   Component: J0527           035 0070  
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 020193695DE7AA3178B-8057

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Coding: 0023303
   Shop #: WSC 91590 999 52559
   VCID: 326103A9ADC7DAB1A8B-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Coding: 0023303
   Shop #: WSC 91590 999 52559
   VCID: 326103A9ADC7DAB1A8B-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 31001068020403
   Coding: 3F3F0B4007001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5D1DD18FE38C41E27-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326103A9ADC7DAB1A8B-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 346D05B157D3D481BA7-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5B10D5B4F98549F59-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:09)--------------------------
At a quick glance it would appear as if 09 and 16 were replaced. Although address 44 communicated it had communication errors in the GVL so I'm inclined to suspect that's a preexisting issue. It would be highly unlikely in my opinion that the factory steering rack decided to fail during the diagnosis and/or be directly related to which 16 module is installed.

Matt, have you ruled out the possibility that this car has driver's door wiring harness issues that could be feeding back on to the Comfort bus? Broken (1K) Jetta harnesses were extremely common, and typically only cause comfort issues, however we had a caller with an (8P) A3 that had AC compressor shutdown problems due to broken door wiring. I believe that was due to 08-Auto HVAC and 42-Driver's door (among several other modules) using the same Comfort bus network. Address 16-Steering wheel is on that network so I'm wondering if any of the original symptoms may be pointing us at something like shorting wiring in a door?

I don't believe that would directly explain the lack-of 44 communication presently but it would be easy enough to unplug the entire door harness at the A pillar to see if any changes are noticed.
 
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