Audi A3 DSG7 OAM DQ200 Harsh down Shift to 3rd

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Hi, Audi A3 DSG 7 dry clutch.

Vehicle arrived with codes - 05981 = clutch 1 opens unintentionally & 05982 = clutch 1 closes unintentionally.

Shifts from cold start were very poor, slipping clunking. Was 80% better at running temp but not perfect.

Remove trans & replaced clutches, No sign of oil leaks. Order series 1 clutch via vin & installed with Luk special tools , Refit to vehicle warm, preform basic settings & Defined test drive.

when slowing for a corner and the trans shifts down 5-4 And I accelerate out of the corner at normal throttle it thumps harshly back to 3rd. Ive done about 50km driving and redone basic settings 3 x with no improvement.

The upshift in to 5th & 7th are firm, not harsh, nothing the customer would complain about.

And some times the 3 to 4 up shift has a very minor flare like the clutch for 3rd let go before 4th clutch applied - that's being fussy though.

Running temp makes these issues less, They are more obvious from cold start.

There are no codes logging.

Might I have a faulty Mechatronic unit?

Code:
Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (8P0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 61 62 72
          77

VIN: WAUZZZ8P3BA010700   Mileage: 119910km-74508miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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in the mean time you find your auto scan, sounds like you may have faulty solenoid valves in the mech unit, common problems with the DSG7 05981 /082 , im assuming Basic settings were successful? was it??, however did you changed or renewed mech unit fluid?? , also the Gearbox fluid? are the levels correct?
 
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in the mean time you find your auto scan, sounds like you may have faulty solenoid valves in the mech unit, common problems with the DSG7 05981 /082 , im assuming Basic settings were successful? was it??, however did you changed or renewed mech unit fluid?? , also the Gearbox fluid? are the levels correct?

 
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My apologies guys, Autoscan below

Basic settings were successful and I have done this 3x
Mech oil level not checked but I will be doing so now.

Code:
Thursday,05,September,2019,15:53:46:25814
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name:

VIN: WAUZZZ8P3BA010700   License Plate: 
Mileage: 119930km-74521mi   Repair Order: Nick B 


Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (8P0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 61 62 72
          77

VIN: WAUZZZ8P3BA010700   Mileage: 119930km-74521miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CDA)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CDA.clb
   Part No SW: 8P7 907 115 K    HW: 8P0 907 115 Q
   Component: 1.8l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: AAH17---    Serial number: AUX7Z0J5FNA0MK
   Coding: 0143000C24070160
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 41CAB9CF18ED1C47D6-8014

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 050 E    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 2673  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501307307157
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 41308 000 1048576
   VCID: 2B16FB678A61E6171C-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AT    HW: 1K0 907 379 AT
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0105  
   Revision: 00H30001    
   Coding: 13424012092300FAC81202E490190081390800
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 044470DB877FC96FBD-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BM    HW: 8P0 820 043 BM
   Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0150  
   Revision: 000158      Serial number: 8P0820043BM   
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78BC142B0BB79D8FA1-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 G    HW: 8P0 907 063 G
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   107 0615  
   Revision: 00107 AF    
   Coding: 4E000A2FA0051AC0207040E00100015C407A29AA106DC928E4000E800041
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 383CD42B8B375D8F61-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350  H10 0040 
   Coding: 00DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 910 557     HW: 8K0 955 559 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSEN  H04 0003 
   Coding: 024C2D

2 Faults Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 197
                    Mileage: 119473 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.12
                    Time: 12:04:19

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.45 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 119475 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.12
                    Time: 13:25:12

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8P0-919-475-7X1.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 475 G    HW: 8P0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H06 0120  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 93641016100879
   Coding: 000103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 42C8B6C3DDEB075FCF-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 P    HW: 8P0 959 655 P
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H07 0200  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FB007HXZZ
   Coding: 30314238303830303037554A305238503053
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 4FEE8FF716B9FA3750-801A

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572DRB40000B79C7A10

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582DRB40000B7C4CB34

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35128RB40000594C27FT

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35228RB4000058DCD7A1

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35547RB400005A3F050I

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35647RB400005A3F4D4Z

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
   Component: J0527           H37 0070  
   Coding: 0014142
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 46C0AAD331C33B7FE3-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H02 0100

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 K    HW: 8P0 920 932 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0080  
   Revision: D0H01002    Serial number: 2245J002003900
   Coding: 0256728
   Shop #: WSC 27509 003 1048576
   VCID: 3C34C83B7F0F71AF85-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 530 A    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H33 0302  
   Revision:   H33       Serial number: 260510F1000947
   Coding: EDA07F0610060204002103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 312AE90FA84D8CC726-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 K    HW: 8P0 920 932 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0080  
   Revision: D0H01002    Serial number: AUX7Z0J5FNA0MK
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3C34C83B7F0F71AF85-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 Q    HW: 8P0 959 801 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0000660
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 49DAA1EF20DDD4070E-801C

1 Fault Found:
00912 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Left (E40) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 312AE90FA84D8CC726-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 E    HW: 8P4 035 382 E
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH07 0180  
   Revision: 00006       Serial number: 92158068209130
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3620DA134123ABFF73-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 Q    HW: 8P0 959 802 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0000660
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4AD89EE325DBDF1F07-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 S    HW: 8P0 035 186 S
   Component: R Concert2+     H03 0280  
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3K6052098
   Coding: 0710111
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 42C8B6C31DEB075FCF-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Batt.regelung H33 0302  
   Serial number: 260510F1000947
   Coding: 0302085A
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 74A4201BD7DFF9EF8D-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 E    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
   Serial number: 00000000005650222329

1 Fault Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 207
                    Mileage: 119929 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.28
                    Time: 11:25:27


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F    HW: 8P4 959 801 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 42C8B6C31DEB075FCF-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F    HW: 8P4 959 802 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 43C6B3C702F10E57C4-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P1 862 335     HW: 8P1 862 335 
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H41 0650  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005208646
   Coding: 0001222
   Shop #: WSC 21200 822 59815
   VCID: 74A4201B17DFF9EF8D-8020

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:37, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
 
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My apologies guys, Autoscan below

Basic settings were successful and I have done this 3x
Mech oil level not checked but I will be doing so now
.


You mean you didn't check vital signs of this patient yet? :rolleyes:
 
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You mean you didn't check vital signs of this patient yet? :rolleyes:
Recovered 800ml of clean green oil from mech, Specification says dry fill is 1 litre but to measure correctly mech should be removed and turned around to empty.


Gearbox oil was replaced at the time of clutch swap.
 
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That's my thoughts as well, A second opinion is appreciated these Mechtronic units cost us $2100 AUD I will replace it & report back.

Thanks.
 
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