7-Speed Direct Shift Gearbox On VCDS VS Snap-On basic settings issue for dsg

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After stripping down the dsg box and replacing a selector.
Refitting the mechatronic and dsg box we was stuck doing basic settings for quite a while until we following instructions from Snapon Verus instead of vcds.

We followed the following page: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/7-Speed_Direct_Shift_Gearbox_(DSG/0AM)

Basic Setting
Prerequisites:
No Fault Codes stored in the TCM
Temperature 30°C - 60°C. The Measuring Block value for G510 is found in group 011.1
Selector Lever in P
Ignition ON, Engine OFF
Parking brake applied
Brake Pedal operated (hold for the whole procedure)
Throttle Pedal not operated
See the Special Notes if the Mechatronic unit needs to be replaced.

NOTE: Be sure to perform the following steps in the sequence shown, followed by the defined test drive.

[Select]
[02 - Transmission]
[Basic Settings - 04]
Group 060
[Go!]
[ON/OFF/Next] may be necessary
The live data should display 4 | 0 | 0 in Basic Settings. This may take up to 2 -to- 5 minutes.
After the 4 | 0 | 0 results are displayed, start the engine immediately and allow it to idle. If 4 | 0 | 0 is not shown do NOT start the engine, something is wrong with the procedure or the transmission.
It is normal for the transmission to make noise while the tolerances are adapting. Do not exit or abort the Basic Settings sequence prematurely if you hear clacking noises. This is similar to the 02E 6-Speed DSG.
The live data should display 254 | 0 | 0 to confirm a successful Basic Settings after 3 -to- 6 minutes.
254 | 7 | 0 alone would Not be complete yet and 255 | 0 | 0 would indicate the basic settings was interrupted or failed.
[Done, Go Back]
Switch off Ignition, wait for a few seconds and switch it back on.
[Fault Codes - 02]
Check and clear any fault codes.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Perform the Defined Test Drive below.

Following the above we couldn't get the box to select any gear at the stage of 255 | 0 | 0 was successful, ign off and check for fault codes (none present at any stage)
We tried to drive and was unable to still select gears.

We did this loads of times times without any success.

The Snapon Verus we did only 1 time and at the 255 | 0 | 0 it was successful and we could select gears immediately.

We was a little shocked to find we could get the procedure to work with VCDS and it worked with Snap-on.

Has anyone else come across this issue?
 
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Moving to Product Support.

Can we get a scan from this car to see the exact TCM please?

You say, "until we following instructions from Snapon Verus". How did those instructions differ from ours?

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Friday,09,August,2019,14:06:55:06086
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ5PZER002765   License Plate: 
Mileage: 82260km-51113mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5P-SE35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 69
          72

VIN: VSSZZZ5PZER002765   Mileage: 82260km-51113miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LJ    HW: 03L 906 023 KL
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9977  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00254016032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LJ 003013
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557A.rod
   VCID: 79F93331F8CE9487DE-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 057 S    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 4510  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501305105706
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 408F9ED51394054FD9-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 233F4012092200FCC41202EA901E0081350000
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 7DF12721E4E6A8A7F2-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5P0 907 044 T    HW: 5P0 907 044 T
   Component: Climatronic   H19 0909  
   Revision: 00001001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE35.rod
   VCID: 41899BD1D09E0C47D6-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 AB    HW: 1K0 937 086 AB
   Component: BCM PQ35  M+  112 0771  
   Revision: AF112771    
   Coding: 46180A388025B0E04288008095008104425119A8527D81605C8040000040
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 70EF0E15A3B4D5CF69-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5P0 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 21051  26  0611 
   Coding: 00DB90

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1P0 955 559 A    HW: 1P0 955 559 A  Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSEN  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02542E

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 5P0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumuebe  009 4865 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5P0 919 475 B    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H08 0008  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 36861317000586
   Coding: 010103
   Shop #: WSC 01130 210 66681
   VCID: 3A7BEC3DB5485F9F97-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: S9 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD2ZK5L3  
   Coding: 0021305
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3D71E721646668A7B2-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME7C736D16Q

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME7A255809I

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME2F5B2753H

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME2F5B341DM

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130503201909
   Coding: 188A140002
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7EF3202DE1E0B3BFEB-802A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1P0 959 538 D    HW: 1P0 959 538 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAP  H02 0103 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1P0 920 950 R    HW: 1P0 920 950 R
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0809  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410B01
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 3C77EA25B77C61AF85-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 040613F1003420
   Coding: 358203
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 79F93331F0CE9487DE-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0809  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADB1C7D8D682F1F27-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 6J0 035 342 G    HW: 6J0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7664855765    
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 285F26755BE4DD0FF1-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 5P0 035 191 Q    HW: 5P0 035 191 Q
   Component: RNS315-EU   H70 0407  
   Serial number: SEZAZ2N0332460
   Coding: 040004010401000000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 3979F331B84E54879E-806C

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V4  0050 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0506  
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0006830526
   Coding: 0012B0
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6DD11761BC86382742-8038

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 D    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  009 1501 
   Serial number: 00000007957643      
   Coding: 000290

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 65     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3979F331704E54879E-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0506  
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0006848081
   Coding: 0012B0
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6ED3106DB180C33F7B-803A

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 D    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  009 1501 
   Serial number: 00000007989996      
   Coding: 000290

1 Fault Found:
66562 - Heated Exterior Mirror 
          B11F8 14 [009] - Open or Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 82264 km
                    Date: 2019.08.08
                    Time: 02:56:16


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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: ConWysTrailer H07 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000132425721
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00007 223 174336
   VCID: 306FCE15633495CF29-8064

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:59)--------------------------

Auto scan posted above.

Edit:Sorry I didn't mean until following instructions from Snap-on.
To clarify instructions was the same, but it wouldn't allow us to select a gear and dash would state put in "P".
 
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