Transporter T 5.1 BCM swap issues

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Timmy

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Hi guys,

hoping someone can help as I've been searching for hours to see if I could resolve this for myself first, to no avail, I have a 2013 T5 and I'm adding a Golk mk7 MFSW with standard button and cruise on the stalks, however before I sort all of that I'm having issues with the BCM swap, I've bought an 090 version but when it's installed I have no power windows and no indicators, when testing I can get the system to turn on the indicators but not the windows.

I'm not 100% that the BCM was actually out of a T5 previously but I'm hoping that it isn't goosed :(

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Tim.

Here is my original 086 BCM Scan

Code:
Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 56 0B

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GH    HW: 03L 907 309 M
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H45 5576  
   Revision: 26H45---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 01194012230400080000
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019GH 003003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019FM_003.rod
   VCID: 77ABE8B21F41696FFB3-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 K    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0110  
   Revision: 00H43001    
   Coding: 508724AD89A60A9924A29174A96110
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
   VCID: 3A2D31866C53B407C4D-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001010    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 7CA1F79E26674A37961-8028

1 Fault Found:
13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Steuergerät im Schalttafeleinsatz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 086 K    HW: 7H0 937 086 
   Component: BCM T5GPM++4  H32 0407  
   Revision: BM032001    Serial number: 0532 109130782
   Coding: E0A0393A0A212011002008102C2B8C540010430F60060000320000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
   VCID: 3B23348263698D0FDFB-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00H9LRT
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
   Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 353722BA45CD5B7F29F-8060

1 Fault Found:
9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
          B1000 1B [136] - Resistance Too High
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 G    HW: 7E0 920 960 G
   Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 460201
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2D070ADAAD9D13BF51F-8078

1 Fault Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 086 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H32 0407  
   Revision: BM032001    
   Coding: 042300
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
   VCID: 70B9D3AE7AAF3E573A9-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC1C65CF3C48774D-803E

No fault code found.
and here is the 090 BCM

Code:
Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56 77 0B

VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH124033   Mileage: 177940km-110566miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GH    HW: 03L 907 309 M
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H45 5576  
   Revision: 26H45---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 01194012230400080000
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019GH 003003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019FM_003.rod
   VCID: 77ABE8B21F41696FFB3-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 K    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0110  
   Revision: 00H43001    
   Coding: 508724AD89A60A9924A29174A96110
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
   VCID: 3A2D31866C53B407C4D-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001010    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 7CA1F79E26674A37961-8028

1 Fault Found:
13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät im Schalttafeleinsatz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0726  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0661 234140059
   Coding: E0A0393A0A212011002808102C2B8C510010430F60060000320000000000
   Shop #: WSC 05205 002 104857
   VCID: 2F3B10D2A71161AF633-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 000000

3 Faults Found:
01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0

01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00H9LRT
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
   Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 353722BA45CD5B7F29F-8060

1 Fault Found:
9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
          B1000 1B [136] - Resistance Too High
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 G    HW: 7E0 920 960 G
   Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 460201
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2D070ADAAD9D13BF51F-8078

2 Faults Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät für Lenkhilfe: keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0726  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 702300
   Shop #: WSC 05205 002 104857
   VCID: 70B9D3AE7AAF3E573A9-8024

3 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0

00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC1C65CF3C48774D-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached
 
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I've done this on my van. Fitted a Passat CC mfsw. Details are a little vague but I do remember running a lin bus wire for the steering wheel button illumination and swapping the bcm T5's are Polo 6R based electronics wise but I'm pretty sure I used a highline T5 bcm as I installed cornering lights at the same time.
Unfortunately I'm not near my van till the weekend so can't confirm till then what part number I used
 
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Come to think of it an 087 bcm is highline and will support those functions
 
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Thanks racofuy, I've not got to the wiring bit yet but have all the instructions for it, it's the fact that the indicators and windows aren't working after putting the 090 BCM in, I'm doing it in steps so as not to bring too many potential issues in in one go.
 
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If you change the BCM you need to copy old Values in Coding and Installation-List of CAN Gateway (19), too.
From your scan i see that coding there was not copied from old to new.
Installation List is not visibly in Autoscan, but from the Erros it looks like it is configured wrong, too.

Before:
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 086
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H32 0407
Revision: BM032001
Coding: 042300
Now
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0726
Revision: B9074001
Coding: 702300
 
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Thank you dnoermann, I'll take a look at this as well, it would also appear that I need to add two wires to the instrument cluster for the canbus and extra power as I have got a 'max' BCM.

Learnt a hell of a lot over the past few days :thumbs:
 
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