P0193 fuel pressure sensor Mk6 TDI

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I bough VCDS to try and solve my issue that even volkswagen cannot figure out. It's been to a vw shop three times without success in finding a fix.

Issue: code P0193 consistently pops up on my dash with engine light and blinking glow plug light. The car is in limp mode most of the time now. It started off on the hwy about 2 months ago went into limp mode, restarting the car would get rid of the issue, but slowly the issue got worse and worse. I've been through about 10 tanks of diesel since the issue has started. The VW shop replaced a torn seal on the pump and the fuel pressure valve with no improvement. I replaced the fuel pressure sensor with OEM replacement, after doing this the car drove great for one day then the issue came back again in full force.

All wiring has been checked in the fuel system to the ECU without any cause for concern, no crimped fuel lines either. There is NO metal shavings anywhere in the fuel system and it has a brand new fuel filter, this is first thing I tried.

Now i'm at the point that the only thing left to change out is the high pressure fuel pump.

Fuel pressure at idle - 350 bar.

Here's my log from running vcds.

If anyone has any insight on this i'd greatly appreciate input. I called IDparts about a new high pressure fuel pump and they said it should be covered under VW warranty, but I called vw and there is no warranty for this that I was told, my car did have extended warranty up to 197,000km but it's over that now, of course.


Code:
Wednesday,07,August,2019,20:35:26:04508
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64(Parallels)
VCDS Version 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: 3VWPL8AJ4BM649339   License Plate: 
Mileage: 218090km-135514mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
          77

VIN: 3VWPL8AJ4BM649339   Mileage: 218090km-135514miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
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Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 030 B    HW: 03L 906 019 DA
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000AG  9983  
   Revision: 12H13---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 55306 001 1048576
   VCID: 2D0709F0511027AF51F-8079

1 Fault Found:
000403 - Fuel Pressure Sensor (G247) 
               P0193 - 000 - Short to Plus - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 218098 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.12.28
                    Time: 20:28:58

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 828 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 13.45 V
                    Inj. Quantity: 8.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 40.5∞C
                    Temperature: 58.5∞C
                    Temperature: 39.6∞C

Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 052 G    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 9136  
   Revision: 05151112    Serial number: 00001009081821
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1869C824CE92B207129-804D

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 114B600C49260003880E06E792220042310000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 76B5E69CE8C62477E05-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AC    HW: 3C8 907 336 AC
   Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
   Revision: 00009001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00147
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6E85CEFC90161CB7285-803B

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 H    HW: 5K0 937 086 H
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    011 1035  
   Revision: BJ011001    
   Coding: 2D380E1F902F3EC4008800816000054401000086535D8560648020000040
   Shop #: WSC 55306 001 1048576
   VCID: 392F2DA099588B0FCD7-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 17111  21  0512 
   Coding: 009795

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 B    HW: 5K0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW10G   021 0706  
   Serial number: 003C4R01428I  
   Coding: 00003047
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01012
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 392F2DA099D88B0FCD7-806D

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME37504558ZZZU

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME32094658ZZZV

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3511HSME05523C24ZZZE

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3521HSME1B1E3C24ZZZU

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35527SME61014B23ZZZ4

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 35627SME7A264B23ZZZM

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   007 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440JJB00015
   Coding: 188A140000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00158
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 76B5E69CE8462477E05-8023

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H07 0013 
   Serial number: 0080912             
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 871 A    HW: 5K0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H23 0204  
   Revision: X0023007    Serial number:               
   Coding: 370F00
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04203
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2C0104F4668A2EA7461-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 A    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H25 5603  
   Revision:   H25       Serial number: 12111001201192
   Coding: ED807F0600161300002002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050EFC5C165CB7685-807B

1 Fault Found:
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 217963 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.12.17
                    Time: 17:13:45


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879 
   Component: Kompass         001 0001  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223RAG1W06
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7EA5FEBCCCF66C37B85-802B

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 920 871 A
   Component: IMMO          H23 0204  
   Revision: X0023007    Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01200
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC2ECACFEF09774D-803F

1 Fault Found:
10485760 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Mileage: 146390 km
                    Date: 2017.11.11
                    Time: 18:48:42


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668338880    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 270BFBD87FEC0DFFAB3-8073

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 701 B    HW: 3C0 959 793 
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0307  
   Revision: 13101005    Serial number: 0001501406
   Coding: 0004B5
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide_VW36.rod
   VCID: 270BFBD87F6C0DFFAB3-8073

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  006 1401 
   Serial number: 00000005193646      
   Coding: 000490

1 Fault Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
          B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 50


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 313F15804D28434F757-8065

1 Fault Found:
00750 - Warning Lamp 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 10.50 V
                        DD
                    Temperature: 21.0∞C
                    RPM: 31 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: EZE_2         H25 5603  
   Revision:   H25       Serial number: 12111001201192
   Coding: 050B0500
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD3F8979C15BF233-803B

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE20SKB13  H02 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J394EE20SKB13  H02 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

1 Fault Found:
02071 - Local Databus 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 65
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 169204 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.22
                    Time: 15:04:17


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 702 B    HW: 3C0 959 792 
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0307  
   Revision: 15101005    Serial number: 0001466878
   Coding: 0004B4
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2809F8E472720287A29-807D

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  006 1401 
   Serial number: 00000005192433      
   Coding: 000490

2 Faults Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
          B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54

67589 - Turn Signal in Exterior Mirror 
          B11FD 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 15
                    Reset counter: 50
                    Mileage: 217826 km
                    Date: 2019.07.01
                    Time: 12:19:11


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AC    HW: 1K0 035 180 AC
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H13 0043  
   Revision: -----26S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7K3126846
   Coding: 2100040004
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 619FA5C05148B3CFA57-8035

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Mileage: 190189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.07
                    Time: 10:31:02

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 217963 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.12.17
                    Time: 17:13:39


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C    HW: 7P6 035 730 C
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0440  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007668517367
   Coding: 0A00000000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 323D1A8C44AE78570CD-8067

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:24, VBatt start/end: 13.8V/13.7V)-----------
 
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Well, the ECU thinks this is an electrical problem with the fuel pressure sensor, or the associated wiring, so...

Do you have wiring diagrams?

How many pins/wires to that sensor? Where do they go?

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I bough VCDS to try and solve my issue that even volkswagen cannot figure out.
It's not unusual for Dealers to be as useful as a chocolate teapot!


Jack will be along soon, to ask if you have overlayed wires to rule them out as an issue. Static testing doesn't always help, as the engine is usually off and the wires aren't moving.

It's obviously somewhat intermittent: On the MK5 Golf TDI's there are a number of wires that break where they come off the chassis rail, across to the engine; front left corner in front of/under the battery. If this has happened, it probably only needs to have a very short period of one wire touching another where they're damaged, and the code would set and stay (along with limp mode) until the next engine start.
 
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I took the car to a local Volkswagen shop not a dealer. They checked all wiring going to ecu from this sensor and ran engine and shook it all and could not replicate the issue. The car now refuses to start normally, in limp mode even before it starts. I’ve tried clearing the code and disconnecting the battery to reset but it still comes on instantly. This issue progressively got worse and worse. It started off doing it only maybe once a week then got worse and worse now to the point where it’s only in limp mode. After I changed the fuel pressure sensor the car ran perfect for one full day then the next day while just cruising on the Hwy it came back on and now is on constantly again. Same p0193 code.

I don’t have any wiring diagrams. There’s three wires going to the sensor along the rail. The shop I took it to check the entire length of wire going to the ecu but could not find any issues with the wiring I’ve briefly checked the wiring and cannot visually see any issues. It’s possible they missed it. I’ll look at wiring near the battery thanks for suggestion

Is it possible there is an issue with the hpfp? No metal shavings found anywhere but I’ve read there are cases where it can fail and not shed metal. I’ve ran fuel injector cleaner many times now since the issue started, changed the fuel filter again yesterday with no change.
 
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I just tried moving around the two big bundle of wires that are behind the battery going towards the ecu under the plastic panel near the wiper blades and after resetting the engine codes I got it off of limp mode. But it’s showing many different codes now. Codes pending are p1007, p1006, p1005, p1004, and permanent code of p0193. It also showed p1091 for brief time under pending but now gone.
 
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Post the scan with the codes showing.

If moving wires gives you codes... there's something going on! If the previous workshop tested the wiring, but didn't discover wiggling the wires creates many codes... do you really trust they tested the wiring properly? Is the loom even plugged into the ECU properly?

The normal break point is nearer to the radiator fans where they cross to the engine - on my cars, it's towards the front of the trans, but up higher - sort of near the starter motor, but I don't know if you car has the same trans/starter layout as mine do.

It shouldn't be related to the HPFP, because the initial code you posted about is an electrical fault code, not a result of a pressure problem. It appears to be complaining that instead of seeing a signal related to/varied by fuel pressure, it's seeing 12V on that feed (short to plus). My first suspects are a wiring fault (because it's internittant and gotten worse) or an ECU fault. Each possibility needs to be eliminated as the fault source somehow.

You'll still need a wiring diagram to do it. Either bypass the the existing wiring, or disconnect it entirely at the ECU end, and see if a different code comes up. The components need to be isolated or bypassed methodically to determine which one is the cause. It could be the wiring, ECU or sensor. The ECU might even have water damage.
 
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The problem most likely resides on this Good Ship, Lop of Shit, Lollypop & at where the harness gets cut by the edge of the cylinder head by chafe resonance point & literally right next to oil filter top, RIGHT?
 
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These new codes only came up in the pending area of my cheap obd reader I had plugged in at the time. I did move the wires around near the sensor, and all along where the fuel pressure sensor wires go, down the engine near the oil filter canister so it’s possible it was somewhere else that I moved the wires to cause these other codes to pop up. I’ve tried to replicate this again a few times now but cannot get the car to register different codes or get rid of the p0193. It is the one code that does not go away ever. It shouldn’t be the sensor as I replaced it with brand new oem one this week. The car was driving very poorly before I changed the sensor, it would be super jerky and stall randomly. After changing the sensor the car ran perfect for one day, then back into limp mode but it’s not driving horrible like it was before I changed the sensor. I was able to get it into normal driving for short period today by clearing the code several times and it drove great for about 30 min. The new sensor definitely improved how the car is running but not the p0193 issue.

I’ll look into the wiring near the transmission area thanks! Will clean the battery ground cable connections also but they look clean. So if I take multimeter to the fuel pressure sensor plug and see 12v this is not good? What should the voltage be 5v?
 
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Don't you think you should unwrap engine harness and verify the entire thing to find break, than repair and re-tape and add spiral wrap in areas needed?

Isn't this repair covered by extended warranty and useful life warranties expressed as imported or already litigated by the US & Canadian Government?



VIN: 3VWPL8AJ4BM649339 Mileage: 218090km-135514miles

Did you ask for guidance from Canada EPA on this matter?

Did you try to prove the problem by vacating the DTC using a decade box with engine harness side unplugged at the ECU directly or changing condition of DTC, using RTFB and WD?

Stop crying and do some work.....
 
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If you engage, maybe I'd help verify some tests on the bench or in car after we see you have a valid RTFB & WD to follow along, ever consider that offer?
 
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Woah Jack you are not coming across as helpful or sincere. Did you not realize that not everyone is a master VW tech and knows what you are talking about with all of your fancy abbreviations!? Yes I cleared codes many many many times. Sometimes it goes away but most times it’s stuck on p0193 code as permanent. Yes I have a valid Ross tech reader as I bought it because of this issue because I took it to a shop three times and paid them $1200 to fix and it came back worse then it started. I said all this in my first post.

If you have something helpful I can use please say it otherwise stop ranting on and say do something about it as that is exactly what I’m trying to. I replaced the fuel pressure sensor and visually inspected everything. I do not have a wiring schematic for this car so how am I supposed to know what the voltages at everything should be. There is no Hanes manual for this car so if you can tell me where I can find an in depth guide to this engine I’d appreciate it. I have to believe that the shop already took all the wiring apart and checked all the polarity is the wiring as described in their work order so why would I do this again?
 
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Also I called VW, my car is $30k over warranty. Nothing is covered they told me.
 
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First stop crying and focus!

You may think my tactics are of the asshole i am but do you see me taking your hard earned money?

I'm about the best friend you could have right now, let's prove it by reactionary self evident answers by facts to be verified by my & what you consider stupid questions okay?

Did you read the entire JPPSG and about useful life warranties?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

Now we are getting someplace, thanks for clarifying skill level and that you don't have the RTFB.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information

Please go here and I recommend printing your entire manual to PDF with cheapest subscription to save money.


Mileage: 218090km-135514miles
Vehicle Identification No. 3VWPL8AJ4BM649339
Model Jetta Variant
GOV
Date of production 25.11.2010
Model year 2011
Sales type AJ539M
Engine Code CJAA
Transmission Code MFL

Emission standard 7GB Emission standard ULEV 2

A ULEV2 as tier 2 or above is certified with a 15 year or 150k warranty no?

Did you get denied that warranty on invoice or in writing?

Contact people here since your car is certified under a US COC, shouldn't you ask about if Canada subordinates CARB and US EPA & because generally you would think they would right?

https://www.riv.ca/ECVehicleEmissionReqs.aspx
https://www.canada.ca/en/environmen...an-environmental-protection-act-registry.html
 
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I will take a read through these links thanks.

What does the emissions standards in Canada have to do with my cars engine problem?

I was told that this car had extended warranty 10 years, or 197,000km whichever comes first. I’m over the km’s So does that not mean I have no more warranty coverage from vw or am I missing something? Nothing in writing this was over the phone convo with vw service tech at a dealer.
 
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Hey man I'm just trying to help you ask the right questions......... :rolleyes:

Get the RTFB and post a WD and let's test this stuff, okay?

Seriously unwrapping the tape to look for an obvious chafe issue, is an easy thing to do, no?
 
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Yesterday spent the day looking for any signs of worn wires, checking voltages at the plug, installing temporary ground to the fuel pressure sensor, no change in voltage or resistance readings. Tried wiggling and jiggling the lines to see any change of voltage or resistance without any change. I cleaned every ground I could find including the ones under bumper by removing it. Still same p0193 code. I’m taking it to the dealer today to deal with this as I don’t have the time to test and inspect more as I run own business and need this fixed now.

I will report back what Volkswagen finds is the issue for this persistent p0193 sensor issue.
 
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Yesterday spent the day looking for any signs of worn wires, checking voltages at the plug, installing temporary ground to the fuel pressure sensor, no change in voltage or resistance readings. Tried wiggling and jiggling the lines to see any change of voltage or resistance without any change. I cleaned every ground I could find including the ones under bumper by removing it. Still same p0193 code. I’m taking it to the dealer today to deal with this as I don’t have the time to test and inspect more as I run own business and need this fixed now.

I will report back what Volkswagen finds is the issue for this persistent p0193 sensor issue.


Okay so no unravel of the tape and basic inspection plus a rewrap huh?
 
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Yes this was also done. But I could not go any further then the oil filter canister as it goes behind/under engine. I’m not sure how you access that area without taking the engine out.
 
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