Dynamic Chassis Control Retrofit

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I got hold a DCC Kit for the Sharan and got it installed successfully.

Everything went smoothly and the last obstacle was the basic setting.

I tried to use the VCDS to do the basic setting but it's no good.

Eventually, have to rely on the ODIS 5054A to do the basic setting and get the system to work.

Wish RT can do something about this. The ODIS is a real pain !

http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.sg/2014/12/dynamic-chassis-control-retrofit-sharan.html
 
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Everything went smoothly and the last obstacle was the basic setting.

I tried to use the VCDS to do the basic setting but it's no good.
This is hardly enough information for us to do anything with.

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Yeah, one of us (likely based on RoW customer feedback) came up with a VW Golf Mk6 based procedure which made it to this VW Scirocco (13) Suspension Electronics page. I'm pretty sure we need to credit Niels (NEtech) for the R8 / Audi Mk6 Golf based procedure .. but either way we'd need to see the Auto-Scan from the vehicle in question before providing a procedure.
 
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I had found this post and tried to follow the instructions mentioned. There was alot of values shown but no indications. The value shown is in between the indicated the min and max. No indication if it is correct or incorrect or if anything is amiss. When I pressed the "GO" icon, it states there is an error but did not show where the problem is. Tried several times until I gave up. Sent it to the dealer to fix it but it took them a whole day ! They fixed it but I do not have any information how it was done apart from the picture a mechanic snapped for me.



If it is possible, RT could have some pop up messages to show the user where a problem is happening and what should be done. Or some instructions or steps to follow to the next step.

That would be nice.


Electronic Damping Control J250 - Basic Settings
Prerequisites:
Battery Voltage = 12.0 - 14.0 V
No fault codes other than 01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed
Vehicle is lifted off the ground, on a suitable vehicle lift

[Select]
[14 - Susp. Elect]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Note: The values stored in the Measuring Value Blocks below are the Minimum and Maximum sensor values.

Group-054 Field-1 = G78 - Min value
Group-054 Field-2 = G78 - Max value

Group-055 Field-1 = G289 - Min value
Group-055 Field-2 = G289 - Max value

Look at:
Group-003 - Field-1,2,3 - Actual Sensor values
If the values are with in the range of the Min - Max stored values from MVBs 054 and 055 then Basic settings can be performed, if not inspect suspension or sensors.

[Security Access - 16]
Enter 31564, to enable the basic setting.
[Do it!]
[Basic Settings - 04]
Group 001
[Go!]
 
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Sorry for digging old thread.

I would like to retrofit DCC on my VW Sharan 7N2.
I tried to contact this thread owner, but no avail.

Does anyone have information on where to purchase hardware parts, controller coding?
Any help is appreciated.
 
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I have retrofitted DCC on my Passat B6 (2008)
Bought all the parts on Ebay. Mostly in Germany.
- shocks
- springs
- G-sensors
- Level sensors

Some parts you can find also on Aliexpress
Connectors I bought at the dealership.
Bought a DCC computer with approx 20 cm of the old cable loom on it.
Have made the complete cable loom myselve.
 
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I am also planning DCC retrofit on my Golf, I have some parts already, almost everything but shocks.

I don't understand if I need to replace springs as well...
 
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It's not necessary to replace springs.
If you are happy with the hight of the springs. Leave it.
 
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awesome, thanks!

can you share a little more details about the retrofit? specifically, I still need to know:

- do you just wire everything up and it magically works? I doubt, so how did you perform basic settings?
- I noticed that module 14 has no coding, is it all done by adaptations?

are you happy with DCC and would you recommend it, or is just wasted money? I hear lots of opinions both sides actually.
 
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are you happy with DCC and would you recommend it, or is just wasted money? I hear lots of opinions both sides actually.
Unsolicited opinion: I have a Golf with it from the factory. I am not terribly impressed.

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your opinion is more than welcome, could you possibly elaborate?
 
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your opinion is more than welcome, could you possibly elaborate?
My biggest qualm with it is that it's too easy to bottom out.

Maybe I'm Luddite, but I'd rather have a set of Bilsteins. :thanks:

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My biggest qualm with it is that it's too easy to bottom out.
This here is a statement which is going to require some follow-up... tell us a story Uwe! :D
 
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yeah, I also don't understand what you mean. for the retrofit, I can buy Monroe or Bilstein, they both make a shock which is equivalent to the OEM (which is actually Monroe).

should I prefer Bilstein? if so, why? since both makers are OEM-equivalent, I would not expect any performance difference.
 
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It is not the magic some guys talk about. But I like it. 99% of the time I drive in Comfort mode Cruising on the highway. I guess my springs on the back side are a little weaker then standard. The complete set came from a Passat CC and I drive a wagon.

Regarding retrofit. It is straight forward. placing shocks and springs.
placing levelsensors and accelaration (G) sensors.
Most of the time is making cable loom (cost me 2 evenings) and connecting all.
The computer in Passat is placed in the trunk (right side) and wiring is going from back to front.
 
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This here is a statement which is going to require some follow-up... tell us a story Uwe! :D
Well, part of the problem is that roads in Philly suck. I had two hard bottoming events in the front during a tour of the city that I gave Niels earlier this year. I've had a few in other places before, but I don't recall the details. You would think with all the fanciness of level and acceleration sensors, it would be more resistant to bottoming than a conventional setup, but it isn't. If I were driving this car on those roads regularly, I think I would try putting taller springs on it; turn it into something of a modern Golf CountRy.

-Uwe-

PS: It would probably also help if I got rid of the overweight 19" factory wheels and replaced them with lighter 18" or even 17" ones. Unsprung weight is the enemy.
 
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yeah, I also don't understand what you mean. for the retrofit, I can buy Monroe or Bilstein, they both make a shock which is equivalent to the OEM (which is actually Monroe).

should I prefer Bilstein? if so, why? since both makers are OEM-equivalent, I would not expect any performance difference.
I don't know it it's true for the Mk.7, but for previous generations of cars, Bilstein always had a series of shocks that were (IMO) considerably better than OEM.

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I would like to have a more comfort suspension system for my Sharan: soft damping 99% of the time, but keep car chassis stable during corner or street bump.
Do you think that doing a DCC retrofit really worth its value, and meet my expectation?

Regards.
 
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I would like to have a more comfort suspension system for my Sharan: soft damping 99% of the time, but keep car chassis stable during corner or street bump.
Do you think that doing a DCC retrofit really worth its value, and meet my expectation?

Regards.
Find someone with same car that does have DCC and do test drive.
 
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I bought the shocks (Monroe, OEM branded), so the retrofit will happen. I found a deal for the four pieces and I could not resist.

I don't know if I will install them in december, most probably will be end of may 2020. will update the thread at some point.
 
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