09G Transmission Adaption Problem

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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72

VIN: 3VWRZ71K99M0xxxxx   Mileage: 200150km-124367miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CBU)       Labels: 07K-906-055-CBT.clb
   Part No SW: 07K 906 055 M    HW: 07K 906 055 M
   Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   9203  
   Revision: G6H02---    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN2431AD
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 38292B354E583907321-806C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 JE    HW: 09G 927 750 JE
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1377  
   Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7DA7FA2121FADC2FA17-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN    HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0107  
   Revision: 00H45001    
   Coding: 113B400D492A0000880E02E6921E00413000
   Shop #: WSC 36555 002 104857
   VCID: 7EA5FD2D20FCC737B8D-802A

2 Faults Found:
00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 200084 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 83
                    Count: 50184
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 200084 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 67
                    Count: 50184
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JM    HW: 1K0 820 047 JM
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1212  
   Revision: 00142032    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9EB350ED8F907F21-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000001126957
   Coding: 14058E234004100007140000001400000008730B5C000120000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 323D191DA824D3570C5-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 111108 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 103
                    Mileage: 200087 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 10.50 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0474413
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 33331C19573EDA5F073-8066

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 200012 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:05:21


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6M07MLDJ  
   Coding: 0013889
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6C81C7654A8045A7069-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 H
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0006

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME41145001U

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME3F645540E

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME184928504

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME184970478

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME19085068/

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME19084108Z

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BR    HW: 1K0 953 549 BR
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 03538CD9471EAADFD73-8056

5 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 S    HW: 1K0 920 954 S
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN2431AD
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3C2137257A601527D69-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 5063  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 220908F2000138
   Coding: ED807F070003021002
   Shop #: WSC 11111 123 12345
   VCID: 35372201594AC46F297-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 S    HW: 1K0 920 954 S
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN2431AD
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3C2137257A601527D69-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC    HW: 1K0 959 793 N
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 00000766589028
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD0697B96BEBF23B-803A

2 Faults Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 190135 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00105 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Drivers Side 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 190135 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 2A0D017D80F49B97B45-807E

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 200084 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:17:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.00 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 35.0°C
                    RPM: 688 /min
                    Speed: 9.0 km/h
                    Speed: 9.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 04518FC54210ADE7EE9-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC    HW: 1K0 959 792 N
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 08100814090904
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D31566A8A1473A1-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: MIB2-S-R-CN   036 0317  
   Revision: -----001    Serial number: VWZ6Z2R7301947
   Coding: 1600040004000A
   Shop #: WSC 00081 790 00120
   VCID: 46D555CD38AC5FF7B0D-8012

7 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 191377 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:30:31

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 15 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.14.26
                    Time: 05:20:26

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 14 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.14.26
                    Time: 08:20:45

00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 2 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 02:16:09

00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 2 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 02:16:09

00875 - Treble Speaker Front Right (R22) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 2 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 02:16:09

00874 - Treble Speaker Front Left (R20) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 2 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 02:16:09


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003626568
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 76B5E50D04CC8F77E0D-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 04518FC54210ADE7EE9-8050

2 Faults Found:
01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 199154 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:14:37

00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 200087 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:22:28


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003588487
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE80903C6F67FFBB-8022

No fault code found.
So I swapped transmission solenoids for my 2009 VW Jetta 2.5L, and followed the relearn procedure to re-adapt my transmission. Everything was working fine until I tried to Reset everything to Factory Default Settings, which in result caused my transmission to flare in the 3-4 gear transition. Does anyone know the proper way to re-adapt a 09G Transmission that flares?

Also, I'm using the default soft coding for the transmission again which is now 0000840.
 
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Please explain exactly what you did when you "tried to Reset everything to Factory Default Settings".

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So what I did is go under the Engine 01 Tab in VCDS and selected Adaptation. And performed a Default Reset which told me in order to perform it was to save channel "000".
 
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Please explain exactly what you did when you "tried to Reset everything to Factory Default Settings".

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So what I did is go under the Engine 01 Tab in VCDS and selected Adaptation. And performed a Default Reset which told me in order to perform it was to save channel "000".
 
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Trans adaptation isn't done in engine ecu 0x01-10-000 nein!

0x01-04-060 & 063 for TV + kickdown

In TCU....

It is done in basic settings 0x02-04-001 & 002 for ADP + kickdown

Trans is 0x02

See wiki

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/6-Speed_Automatic_Transmission_(09G)


Time to JPPSG and RTFB!

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot
Yeah I've done it in the Trans - 02 section, but how do you know if it really did anything? If anything really got re-adapted? I've done it that way a couple of times with no DTC codes present, and successfully taken the vehicle for a test drive and still no resolution. The 3-4 shift flare just remains.
 
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Maybe that isn't your issue and you are missing a mechanical tolerance or fluid level inaccuracy?
09G Is typically a real steamer, no?
 
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Maybe that isn't your issue and you are missing a mechanical tolerance or fluid level inaccuracy?
09G Is typically a real steamer, no?
Yeah but before I did the Reset Procedure in the Engine - 01 Category my shifts adapted after driving awhile. I just don't know why its taking longer to adapt this time. The 09G Transmission is very complicated to understand.
 
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Yeah but before I did the Reset Procedure in the Engine - 01 Category my shifts adapted after driving awhile. I just don't know why its taking longer to adapt this time. The 09G Transmission is very complicated to understand.
Not really complicated at all, it's just a POS as history of VAG automatics live up to in general, no?

SSP Steamer DOG PILE 291 for your pleasure?

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_291_d1.pdf
 
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try hard resetting tcm with pulling fuse, and do the process over again with vcds, test drive for a few more times and repeat, until it gets better and better, 09G requires patience and many tries, make sure the fluid level is correct, adapt the trans with correct driving steps, and maybe you can fix your abs sensors in the mean time all may inter-relate with average speed readings, just a suggestion.
 
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try hard resetting tcm with pulling fuse, and do the process over again with vcds, test drive for a few more times and repeat, until it gets better and better, 09G requires patience and many tries, make sure the fluid level is correct, adapt the trans with correct driving steps, and maybe you can fix your abs sensors in the mean time all may inter-relate with average speed readings, just a suggestion.
You know the whole time I was driving my car with its stock solenoids (OEM), I didn't even have a 15Amp fuse powering the TCM. It wasn't until I replaced my solenoids with the incorrect large canisters, to try to fix my shifting problem is when I put the TCM fuse in. And once I added that fuse my car relearned its adaptation shortly after driving it. But now since I took out the large canisters and replaced them with my small canisters (OEM) the car is taking longer to re-adapt the 3-4 gear flare.

And by the way, the ABS light was due to me having the car in gear while on jack stands. Also, what steps/procedure did you take into relearning your shift patterns for your 09G transmission?

My Steps
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1st - Unplug 15Amp Fuse, when car is off and wait a min.
2nd - Plug fuse back in, and reset learned values under Auto Trans (2).
3rd - Take vehicle for a drive until shift flare fades out.

But the shifting flares never seemed to go away yet. Any suggestions?
 
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driving 20% throttle until all gears are selected , then coast until gears downshift and comes to a complete stop within 30 seconds, try this like 10 million times, and increase throttle over period of time, if you still having shift problems ;

k2 solenoid , VB pressure related, try adjusting the k2 solenoid, k2 may need to increase pressure by turning counter clock-wise,
 
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driving 20% throttle until all gears are selected , then coast until gears downshift and comes to a complete stop within 30 seconds, try this like 10 million times, and increase throttle over period of time, if you still having shift problems ;

k2 solenoid , VB pressure related, try adjusting the k2 solenoid, k2 may need to increase pressure by turning counter clock-wise,
Thanks for your help! After carefully adjusting the K2 Solenoid Pressure Valve a full turn and a half (1.5 turn), I can now say the flare is completely gone. I'm still going to drive it around more to get the 3-4 gear transition to a completely smooth transition.
 
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