Jetta 16/AJ : Power folding mirrors / Mirror dip reverse

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Hello,

I own an imported US Jetta. (ODIS : DELA 2.0 tdi SCR / 110 kw - ELSA : 2.0 HL 110 TDIM6F 163x42 DELA PFN - VCDS : AJ163). I got the premium trim (the higheat here on the ones that came with hallogen headlights), not to be confused with the US market premium though (for instance, I don't have MFD on my instruments cluster).

I've done a lot of sucssesfull tweaks using VCDS. (That I will share on the forums once I make sure no one posted them already, to avoid redundance)

Now, on my Jetta, I have OEM electrical mirrors, they are heated too. But not power foldable (on my door knob i only have 4 switch positions : 0, R, L, Heating, no power folding).

I wanted to do some tweaks like the mirror dip while reversing, almost all tutorials point to door electronics adresses, which, as you'll notice on my auto-save, are not present. Does it mean I don't have door modules even though I have heated electric mirrors (and yes I don't have seats memory).

I want to install power folding mirrors, so what will be the way to go :

1- Just VCDS ? I'll post whatever may "help you help me" on the matter, am I missing something ? (Can Gateaway installation list ? Some slave sub module ? Anything)

2- VCDS and modules and knobs and whatnot combined installations and coding. If that is the way to go, then what exactly do I need to buy and install, references ?

3- Aftermarket stuff, like motors on the already present OEM mirrors. Is that even an option (I mean, there is a bunch of "questionable universal kits" ?

English is not my first language, apologies for mistakes made.
PS : This is my first car, my first post, and the first time I used VCDS. The telematics fault code is just the 3 buttons dialer and will be dealt with, just disregard it.

Code:
Monday,15,July,2019,02:49:17:44035
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW3A7AJ6GM******   License Plate: *******
Mileage: 3340km-2075mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 44 47 5F 75

VIN: 3VW3A7AJ6GM******   Mileage: 3340km-2075miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-DELA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04L 906 016 MC    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H20 4450  
   Revision: 8AH20---    
   Coding: 01190012042410095000
   Shop #: WSC 20200 993 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016MC 004002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016MC.rod
   VCID: 76B5E6E9E84DFD87E05-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CB    HW: 1K0 907 379 CB
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0174  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492300FC850F02E7921C004221100012
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 74B1DCE1FEB1EF97DE1-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0368374703
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00018
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 372B2BEDAFC7448F3B3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 044 Q    HW: 1K8 907 044 Q
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0304  
   Revision: 00001K03    
   Coding: 0050019002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00318
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3D2739C58DFB6EDFE1F-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 189     HW: 7E0 937 189 
   Component: BCM PQ25 MMI3 H80 0733  
   Revision: BA080001    Serial number: 18003183150699
   Coding: 7B994B3B08AB0B000939268024C886C52D86700E60842170B0A0500B2844
   Shop #: WSC 18930 003 1048576
   VCID: 71BFD5F581A3DABF357-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 270515 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 02300A

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102585150618081238
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102584150612144508
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 A    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS41.402  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST0009097P00000
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serial number: 1701510224300841AD1B
   Coding: 280000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14102587150620190552
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14102586150619145341
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655 
   Component: AirbagVW11    001 0207  
   Serial number: 003RXM0077R/
   Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065
   Shop #: WSC 55286 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6393AFBD4BDF782FB7B-8036

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021 
   Serial number: IBH00000000000328SCD
   Coding: 303146

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 505 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 357000000008F255241E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 505 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35800000000CB155241E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 305 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148 
   Serial number: 3510001C519BDF22B44D

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 305 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148 
   Serial number: 3520001BB19BDF2553FQ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 605 15
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189 
   Serial number: 3550001AD19BDF23730F

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 605 15
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189 
   Serial number: 3560001AD19BDF21B2BS

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 955     HW: 5C6 920 955 
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1007  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170A010000
   Shop #: WSC 36656 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 6C81C481A6013757061-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 189 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
   Revision: BA080001    
   Coding: 102203
   Shop #: WSC 18930 003 1048576
   VCID: 6889B891B2791B77629-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 1007  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00318
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC299ACF5296774D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000125678002
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00318
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 303910F14AA993B77A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 306    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 392F2DD5955352FFCD7-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0058171
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
   VCID: 2809F8917279DB77A29-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 684     HW: 5C0 035 684 
   Component: MU-S-NS-US    H21 0241  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2R0260771
   Coding: 02630102AA00000051110003001808001F0100D400200105C6
   Shop #: WSC 62743 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
   VCID: 629DAAB954C57127BCD-8036

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 N    HW: -----------
   Component: MRM3 2019/20  --- 1115 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285 A    HW: 561 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowUSA     020 0156  
   Serial number: 000003554140539
   Coding: 02630102C24232007F1606000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 002009
   ROD: EV_OCULow_002.rod
   VCID: 1471BC61DEF14F977E1-8040

1 Fault Found:
9458195 - Control Module for Cellular Telephone 
          B1052 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [roofline module open load]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 181
                    Mileage: 3255 km
                    Date: 2019.07.13
                    Time: 13:13:12


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:32, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.1V)-----------
 
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Nothing ? :confused: :(
 
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From older threads asking about mirror dip on PQ25/26 platforms, it was deemed not doable because the feature isn't there on that platform. If your Jetta was the PR-AW1 model, it would use the PQ36 platform, which has front door controllers as dedicated modules, which do support mirror dip.
 
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Thank you for this major element of answer siLC.

Can you indicate some of the said old threads on the matter ?

As I said, mirror dip is just part of what I'm trying to achieve, power folding mirrors being the main upgrade I am looking for.

I don't know about the platform or the modules, but when I enter Centr. Elec. module, it shows "BCM PQ25 MMI3...etc". So maybe I am on PQ25 afterall (maybe not I don't know). Let's suppose I am, can't those missing door modules (if they are missing, because as I said, I have electrically controlled heated mirrors) be installed on my doors so that I can install power folding mirrors afterwards ?

Looking for insights from experienced members of the forum. Help.
 
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Edit : Some other module says "PQ35" on VCDS. will edit after and give you exact details once I can diagnose the car. Is there a certain way to know exactly what platform I am on ?
 
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7E0 = PQ25. Sorry to say it won't work.
Thank you for your insight iichel. The component I was referring to showing as "ELV-PQ35 H21 0240" is the 2B-Steer. Col. Lock.

Not sure what that mean but...meh ? A PQ25 platform with PQ35 components ? Or am I being wrong here ? And that's the only component I noticed a PQ35 mention on it. Maybe there are others (not necessarily PQ35, but not PQ25 specific items either, you never know with those dealers...).

But anyway, you are saying power folding mirror on this "PQ25" is a no no. Is there a way to add hardware (salvaged or ordered) and wire things up and activate them via coding (I'm thinking door modules, wiring, a mirror knob with folding position and the power folding mirrors themselves) ?
 
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I've been researching this particular retrofit and I have tried different variations of the door modules and CECM's, and I have learned that while you can install folding mirrors which physically fit, get everything working, but central locking will still not work correctly, nor will the trunk release button. The power windows will probably work only for the driver door. The problem is, even though the door modules have a coding byte to tell its running on a PQ25 car (which is odd, since it won't work? Those who say it can't be done, tell me please why would vw put a PQ25 byte in the door module setup if it won't work with pq25?????) I've considered just rewiring the newer door cable harnesses, to put the door locks and trunk release on seperate lines to the T28 door jam connector and so it will be like originally was. So, that takes care of the power mirrors, folding, mirror movement, etc, but I seriously doubt that the newer door control module will communicate with the passenger door module since its done via the CECM. Believe it or not, I had the door locks working for a short period of time, however, once I turned the car off, disconnected everything and reconnected, it no longer worked. If its possible, I will figure it out.
 
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