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Regarding the Soldering "debate" it does seem as many commented above that the context revolves around Vibration ; especially with aircraft. I know little to nothing about aircraft construction, but aren't those engines mounted directly to the airframe? That is, unlike a automobile, with all the rubber bushings and cushioning a airframe is subject to a bunch of constant (direct) vibration which is very destructive. Just asking, but if all those components or engines are mounted directly to the airframe, that vibration would be a real concern throughout the entire structure.
 

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Just asking, but if all those components or engines are mounted directly to the airframe
Have you ever been on an airplane? Do they just shake the way you're suggesting? :confused:
 

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sure, I've have flown before. But only on large commercial jets and I could sure sense when those engines would spool up or down; both feeling/vibration and sound. And upon landing it sure felt solid (meaning, it is as if the entire planes structure was involved ; especially as it traveled down the runway).

You don't get that feeling in a luxury automobile that's for sure. I presume it is because of any moving parts are isolated from the unibody or frame. The durometer number of the rubber etc.
 

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I know little to nothing about aircraft construction, but aren't those engines mounted directly to the airframe? That is, unlike a automobile, with all the rubber bushings and cushioning a airframe is subject to a bunch of constant (direct) vibration which is very destructive.
Piston engines are typically mounted on tubular steel mounts with rubber bushings. Those bushings help, but they certainly do not eliminate vibration. Also, those engines use BIG pistons, meaning there's lots of reciprocating mass:

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Oh, and FWIW, I once had a vibration-related wiring problem in the airplane I owned 30-some years ago. But not due to solder; it was the coax antenna lead going to my transponder antenna. It failed due to chafing on a seam in the belly of the plane. And of course it did so in an area where I was required to have a transponder; I was under the Pittsburgh TCA (now called "Class B" airspace). Controller noticed it first. Asked me whether I'd shut my transponder off. Nope, must be some kind of malfunction. I landed at the small airport that was my destination, and had to get special permission to fly home w/o a working transponder. "OK, just stay low and out of our way". Anyway, vibration is very much a factor in small, piston-powered airplanes.

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I very much have that sense. I've driven VW (and occasionally Audi) almost exclusively for my entire adult life.

1977 Mk.1 Rabbit
1984 Mk.1 GTI
1985 Jetta (wife)
1989 Mk.2 GTI-16V
1997 Mk.3 GTI-VR6
2001 Eurovan (*)
2002 Audi A4
2004 Touareg V8
2005 Audi A6 (wife, then daughter)
2006 Audi A3 (first mine, now son's) (*)
2007 Mk.5 Rabbit (son)
2009 Touareg TDI
2012 Audi A6 (*)
2013 Tiguan (*)
2013 Passat TDI
2015 Touareg TDI (*)
2016 Mk.7 Golf R (*)
2018 Tiguan (*)
2019 Audi A6
2023 Jetta (daughter) (*)

We still have the ones with a (*).

Somehow, I have zero desire for any of their newer offerings. They just don't float my boat. "Mobility" seems to have replaced "Fahrvergnügen". Screens and capacitive controls have replaced real controls. Manual transmissions have all but disappeared.

Maybe I'm just being an old curmudgeon?

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That really is a lot of tosh - haven't the heart or the stamina to go into it in detail...

But I'll just leave this here:-


(As an electrical engineer that sort of clickbaity rubbish really annoys me!)
 

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I'll just leave this here:-
I'm confident that's reliable in a wire under tension, which, if one pays attention, is what the application for this type of splice is. Now put that in a situation where there's no tension, but rather bending or vibration and see what happens.

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1984 Mk.1 GTI

It's been 15 years since I sold mine... and it wasn't even mint or anything.... I still regret it! :cry:

I thought the 1st gen (Mk1) Golf was called the "Rabbit" in the USA, and the GTI nameplate didn't make it over here until the Mk2?
 
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