2020 US Presidential Election

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I was planning to vote Trump, but this was the last straw, that Constitutional democracy is important. This is why I am DEFINITELY voting for him. :thumbs:
Well-played exploit for lack of a qualifying clause. It is against the spirit, but because it's for puppies and kittens, I award you "Best Abuse of Rules" (very apropos, in-character) and you should have an e-card in your email. And I've now closed that loophole in my post and left it open if anyone else wants to take a shot.
 
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Goodness, talk about weasel-words. Parse this sentence carefully:
the agency has "not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail or otherwise."
"Has not seen" doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
"Coordinated national" doesn't mean they haven't seen it happen locally, or in individual states, and as we know, there are only a handful of states where the outcome is in question, meaning that it would be utterly pointless to mount a "coordinated national voter fraud effort" in order to swing a presidential election.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TURN OFF THE CNN and get back to work!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
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Lawrence Tabas, the chairman of the Pennsylvania GOP, said the elector strategy was something the party could pursue.
"I just don't think this is the right time for me to be discussing those strategies and approaches, but [direct appointment of electors] is one of the options," he told The Atlantic.
I do not think a party chair, who holds no public office, should taken as, "Pennsylvania is openly talking about...."

Of course the Constitution does allow each state to decide how to choose its presidential electors. There is no requirement for them to be chosen via an election. Early in American history, they were generally appointed by State legislatures. And recently, quite a few Democrat-controlled states have passed laws that would ignore the will of the voters in their own states by joining the National Popular Vote Compact.

But to change the way that electors are chosen in PA would require a change to Pennsylvania state law. I could see such a change passing in the Republican-controlled legislature, but Governor Wolf (a Democrat) would veto that in a heartbeat, and the Republicans do not have a big enough majority in either chamber of the legislature to override such a veto. See Republican efforts to kill off Wolf's current "emergency" orders as evidence.

Basically, this is much ado about nothing; a fantasy that simply isn't going to happen in this election cycle.

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Why, pearl-clutching celebrities even scolded electors to not seat the guy who actually got elected:

 
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@Andy: without wishing to get involved in the "message" on the Message for Electors to Unite for America video - I've always found it odd when TV/Movie-Stars (so called) are used for political marketing. At the heart of my problem is the important question of what particular qualifications these folk hold for the task. Yes, they are citizens who vote and therefore they hold a legitimate political view - but the fact of their profession doesn't (shouldn't?) make that view any more persuasive than the opinion of the average voter IMHO.

And, for the purpose of a political advertisement, I'm constantly reminded of the real skills that make actors successful when Hollywood-heads are used for this purpose, which is clearly the craft of acting - or said in another way, the art of fooling viewers into believing that the role portrayed on the screen is genuine. This is hardly a ringing endorsement of the bone-fides of the talking-head fronting the camera!!

Plus the other problem with actor endorsements of political messages is that it helps to promulgate the increasingly prevalent (but specious) notion that Government is like Hollywood in that they are both about entertainment (nothing especially American about this - the Roman emporers used bread-and-circuses for political gains long before the US). I know that you will disagree- but I suspect that Mr Trump's previous connections with Hollywood is probably his greatest lure to voters for the role of POTUS (sadly).

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No, Trump isn't admitting defeat. Your logic is grasping at straws, or rather just wishful thinking. If Biden "supporters" feel that way, it'll just be 2016 all over again.
 
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No they don't. A good businessman pays as little in taxes as legally possible.

Oh, and "paid $750" is a lie.

Unless it was deemed "Gaming the System" or Circumventing tax liability, is it not illegal for almost any law to do this or espouse to a way of life, you know, that is usually punishable right, gaming seems fitting since the President formally owned or owns casinos, no?

You know, no differently than someone or say for example a police officer collecting a disability pension from NYC PD or for a former NYS Trooper disabled and being employed in a town clown job, to only enforce local police force in same job criteria or say being clocked in at two different towns double dipping?
 
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well, I don't know about the rest of the world, but the $750 Trump tax rumours are headline news here in the Netherlands.
Like anyone would trust a paper owned by Soros.

COME ON MAN!
 
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Don't those returns show a failure to be solvent, further deep in .5 billion of debt?
I guess you must consider the fact that the new American business model is bankruptcy and by how much credit you can get in funny money or false declaration of product value or income, you know like imports from other Countries, RiGhT?
 
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Don't those returns show a failure to be solvent, further deep in .5 billion of debt?
I don't think so. They show profit and loss in a given year. Income tax returns do not show assets and liabilities (i.e. actual net worth).

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