ABS Fault 00285

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Hello,

I'm new to the forum, and to VCDS, so there is a lot I don't know. I appreciate any help I can get with this diagnosis. It appears that there are several issues with my car. I've included 2 scans here. The first one is immediately after clearing the codes, the second one is before clearing the codes.

My main concern right now is the ABS/Slip light that is activated.

With the scans I did today, I see a new error about communication with the ABS Brake Module. I did not see that on my previous scan a few days ago.

I purchased a new ABS sensor for the front right wheel, and replaced it last week, but it did not clear the error. I also attempted to measure voltage at the sensor while I moved the wheel to see if the sensor was working, but that test came back negative. Not sure I was able to get a good connection to the sensor, so inconclusive right now. It doesn't make sense that a brand new sensor would be bad.

I visually inspected the wire and the connector, and no obvious damage.

What would be a good way to test the harness? Does anyone have a diagram of the connector to show where to test the sensor wires for continuity? How do I determine if sensor, harness, abs module are good or bad?

fyi-measure blocks show measurement for the other 3 wheels. Nothing for the right front.

Excerpt from full scan:

Code:
049441 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module
               U0121 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 29.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105 
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3FDB42265B75F50FF3B-806A

1 Fault Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Code:
Saturday,22,June,2019,09:47:22:33951
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4505.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: WVWAA71K38W240338   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 65

VIN: WVWAA71K38W240338   Mileage: 252350km-156803miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 1010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (CBT)       Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 07K 906 032 BK    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
   Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   1568 
   Revision: 1NH01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03NL95V
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73B3DE1627BD616FC73-8026

5 Faults Found:
006481 - Radiator Fan 2 (V177)
               P1951 - 002 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251659 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:30:15

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1312 /min
                    Load: 36.1 %
                    Speed: 10.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 90.0°C
                    Temperature: 34.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

001152 - Coolant Fan Control Circuit 1
               P0480 - 004 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251659 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:30:29

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2174 /min
                    Load: 17.2 %
                    Speed: 83.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 85.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

000275 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
               P0113 - 002 - Signal too High - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:20:30

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.319 V

000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
               P0102 - 002 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:20:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 184 /min
                    Load: 78.4 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.795 V

049441 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module
               U0121 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 29.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105 
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3FDB42265B75F50FF3B-806A

1 Fault Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HJ    HW: 1K0 820 047 HJ
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 1010 
   Revision: 00141028    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 73B3DE1627BD616FC73-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000007947775
   Coding: 108D8F214004150047140000001400000008730B5C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09460 444 53328
   VCID: 71BFD41E5DA1537F35F-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 180108 021  0501 
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 09460 

1 Fault Found:
02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 251664 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6K AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000 
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0ADA2P 
   Coding: 0013899
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 6C81C56A7A83BE97069-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME3802486BD

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME327361330

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME4C77273DW

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME45334E01C

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME12764F465

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME12765619+

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BN    HW: 1K0 953 549 BN
   Component: J0527           051 0100 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 7F5B02261BF5350FB3B-802A

4 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 J    HW: 1K0 920 974 J
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03NL95V
   Coding: 0007203
   Shop #: WSC 00000 067 57207
   VCID: 3537200E69493F5F297-8060

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:30:07


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180 
   Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K081230695
   Coding: E9801F070002020000
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3039111A962B1A777A1-8064

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:30:07


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 J    HW: 1K0 920 974 J
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1216 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03NL95V
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3537200E69493F5F297-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207 
   Coding: 0001077
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3829293A7E5BC237321-806C

2 Faults Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00105 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Drivers Side
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.135 H08 1901 
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3537200E69493F5F297-8060

1 Fault Found:
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 251660 km
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                    Voltage: 11.90 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 139006885103281B0904058FB0080A04889C00
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 04518DCA721356D7EE9-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted    

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted    

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted    

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207 
   Coding: 0001076
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 392F2C3E4551DB3FCDF-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 C    HW: 1K0 035 161 C
   Component: Radio DE2       015 0019 
   Revision: 00015000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7G6309362
   Coding: 0040402
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 1F1BE2A6FBB5950FD3B-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 04518DCA721356D7EE9-8050

1 Fault Found:
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 251679 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:30:08


End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:59, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
 
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Been here?
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00285

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PS: That fault is not "P00285". "P" codes are SAE/ISO standardized Powertain faults. This is a VAG specific/proprietary 00285 fault. On newer cars, there might be a "C" code equivalent (C being chassis). I've fixed the thread tile.
 
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Hello and welcome to the VCDS forum OP

Verify wiring from sensor to ABS module using DVOM and test overlay using WD by RTFB.
Load test the circuits.

Check charging system and battery or change due to being weak.

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plug diagram?

Hello and welcome to the VCDS forum OP

Verify wiring from sensor to ABS module using DVOM and test overlay using WD by RTFB.
Load test the circuits.

Check charging system and battery or change due to being weak.

JPPSG
I was able to find the electrical drawings on erwin, but I don't see plug detail.

I need more info for inexperienced person.
 
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Okay great OP.

See the T26 designation?

That's the plug at ABS module known as AKA J104 or in VCDS as hex address word 0x03

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl ( J104 )
Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105
Fault Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< See that in WD G45 that's the sensor
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

Don't worry about the D186 or 187 & commence a check with DVOM and load light to ABS connector T26a PIN 5 & 6 and should correlate to PIN's 1 & 2 at ABS G45 sensor, understand?
 
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Okay great OP.

See the T26 designation?

That's the plug at ABS module known as AKA J104 or in VCDS as hex address word 0x03





Don't worry about the D186 or 187 & commence a check with DVOM and load light to ABS connector T26a PIN 5 & 6 and should correlate to PIN's 1 & 2 at ABS G45 sensor, understand?
I see...pin 5 and pin 6...duh. I should have figured that out.
I want to check continuity from pin 5 to #1 and pin 6 to #2, right?
 
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I see...pin 5 and pin 6...duh. I should have figured that out.
I want to check continuity from pin 5 to #1 and pin 6 to #2, right?

Yeah it's only two wires ya dope :p

Not just continuity,,,,,,nein! because one stand of copper can make a tone and not carry the current needed for the controller to read the voltage of wheel speed, that is why load light!

Meet MR. 123 LOAD LIGHT's in this 2 min video....

 
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I was expecting a diagram of the plug to know which pins to check....got it now.

Thank you for the information about how to load test the wire. I need that.

I will check it out next opportunity. Thanks.
 
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