How to disable automatic start of Webasto (auxilary diesel heater)

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tos

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I have same problem as many others in Finland.

See this http://tinyurl.com/le8rvr6 and http://tinyurl.com/jwvqtn6

Shortly:
Diesel heater starts when engine is cold and
when driving time is short, heater comes dirty inside > PROBLEMS!


Code:
Saturday,06,December,2014,12:47:39:64262VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
Data version: 20141022


Dealer/Shop Name: TOS
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345


VIN: TMBLD95L7B6050077   License Plate: YETI
Mileage: 98280km-61068mi   Repair Order: 






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Chassis Type: 5L (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62
          69 72


VIN: TMBLD95L7B6050077   Mileage: 98280km-61068miles


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFHC)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 DB    HW: 03L 906 018 BR
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 7098  
   Revision: 42H23---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001D001A042600080000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018DB 003004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018DB.rod
   VCID: 6DDA3F44BC6AF849B4D-8038


No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 


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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 013 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2601  
   Revision: 05351112    Serial number: 00001102231030
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 1A302498D564BFF181F-804F


No fault code found.


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 913F400E092701FA890B02EB9020804A350000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 76E81028C13C3B91457-8023


1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 97273 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.11.27
                    Time: 17:32:47


             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 397
                    Count: 51712
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1279
                    Count: 0




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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BG    HW: 3T0 907 044 BG
   Component: Climatronic   H16 0402  
   Revision: 00006001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK12.rod
   VCID: 78F41E10C3284DE157B-802D


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 H    HW: 1K0 937 086 H
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AD    
   Coding: 40000AB8E81708C040080080100089E4477C00AE726DA5605C8540000040
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 356AD7249CBA70898CD-8060


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5L1 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: SK356  26  0604 
   Coding: 00F7B5


   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 100311 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0730ED


No fault code found.


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32901106900226
   Coding: 110113
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000_SK35.rod
   VCID: 336EE93C9ACE6EB9A29-8066


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 D    HW: 5C0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW10G   013 0613  
   Serial number: 003G7RA00V6E  
   Coding: 00005431
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SK35.rod
   VCID: 336EE93C9ACE6EB9A29-8066


   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME2D72335DZZZ+


   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME5E08345DZZZ3


   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME7434072BZZZT


   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME6818072BZZZZ


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110309300751
   Coding: 1882140000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7EF80808E10C73D11D7-802B


   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012 
   Coding: 800000


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5L0 920 840 H    HW: 5L0 920 840 H
   Component: KOMBI         H21 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 120E01
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 3064E6306BD855A1DFB-8065


No fault code found.


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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-007.clb
   Part No: 7N0 963 272 A
   Component: Standheizer     043 4730  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: 09022127000000
   Coding: 0030012
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00065
   VCID: 336EE93C52CE6EB9A29-8066


1 Fault Found:
00664 - Fuel gauge 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 97947 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.03
                    Time: 11:44:50




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 120311F2000551
   Coding: 356302
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3064E63063D855A1DFB-8065


No fault code found.


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Address 22: AWD        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 B    HW: 0BR 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3017  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 448CBAE00760D9010B3-8011


No fault code found.


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H21 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 6AD034588D84EF71D1F-803F


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 E    HW: 7N0 959 793 A
   Component: TSG FA        H04 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000012258695 
   Coding: 011502208000231003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 448CBAE0C760D9010B3-8011


No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 71     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 346CEA2057C06981BB3-8061


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 E    HW: 7N0 959 792 A
   Component: TSG BF        H04 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000012357207 
   Coding: 011500208000231003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 438EB9FCC26EDE39329-8016


No fault code found.


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 3703835
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 346CEA2057C06981BB3-8061


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0008  
   Coding: 00000056


   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0008  
   Coding: 00000056


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 161 N    HW: 1Z0 035 161 N
   Component: Radio-SWING   012 0036  
   Revision: -----16S    Serial number: SKZ4Z2L1168315
   Coding: 0D0004000001
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3972DB14B0A294E9685-806C


No fault code found.


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 D    HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000012383762 
   Coding: 010000200000531003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 458AA7E4CC5AE0091CD-8010


No fault code found.


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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000144335952
   Coding: 410D000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3064E63063D855A1DFB-8065


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 D    HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000012365379 
   Coding: 010000200000531003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 458AA7E4CC5AE0091CD-8010


No fault code found.


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:25)--------------------------
Code:
;SW:7N0-963-272-A   HW: ---  Aux. Heat;Component:Standheizer     043 4730, Coding:0030012
;Thursday,11,December,2014,15:09:46:64262
;VCDS Version: Release 14.10.0  Data version: 20141022
;VCID: 336EE93C52CE6EB9A29-8066


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;51 N/A
;52 N/A
;53 N/A
......and so on
I don't want extra switches or disable it from CAN-list.

I read from vagarena.fi that gasoline webasto from skoda superb is possible to disable.
Adaptation channel 06 - Additional heater functionality.

But in Diesel is not possible? or is it?
 
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Uwe

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If it were mine, I would certainly try putting 0 into Adaptation Channel 006 to see if that produced the desired results.

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There seems to be some results were there already is 0 in adaption. Would reverse number also work. Check it out maybe?
 
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I tried 0, webasto still running itself.
(it was 1)
 
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It's not possible to turn off the Aux-Heater in these cars. A friend of mine developed a module, which is able to suppress the additional heating (but not the timer or remote start), but his page is available in German only: http://www.bronken.de/zuheizer/ There is a construction manual on his page and the firmware for the module, if you want to build it by yourself.
 
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It's not possible to turn off the Aux-Heater in these cars. A friend of mine developed a module, which is able to suppress the additional heating (but not the timer or remote start), but his page is available in German only: http://www.bronken.de/zuheizer/ There is a construction manual on his page and the firmware for the module, if you want to build it by yourself.
So you know Bronken. :) I guess Bronken is the guy who my friend is getting ideas and solutions from for his b6 to b7 passat project. :)

Btw, we may not know it, but we may have walked by each other. - As usually I'm visiting Regensburg twice a year. :P hehe :)
I guess you know when you have entered to Regenburg when the fog is out. Eh? :)
 
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I have same problem as many others in Finland.

See this http://tinyurl.com/le8rvr6 and http://tinyurl.com/jwvqtn6

Shortly:
Diesel heater starts when engine is cold and
when driving time is short, heater comes dirty inside > PROBLEMS!
I wonder if shutting it off is a good idea? Short-trip fast-warmup is exactly what those things are for. For diesels where they come standard from the factory and (I believe) they're plumbed into the engine main coolant circuit instead of just the cabin heater core, they may have been taken into account when planning engine lubrication design along with the catalytic converters and other emissions controls. If you have a DPF, it may clog up faster. The engine may not really like running cold that long.

If your short-trips are so short that you don't need heat, try turning your HVAC completely off. I've read on the Phaeton forum that V6/V10 TDI auxiliary heaters don't engage if the blower motor speed is zero. I don't know if that applies to all cars, but it's worth a shot.

If your short-trips are long enough that you need heat, and you're actually getting heat, the Webasto was plenty hot.

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I agree Jason, this channel looked interesting :
A32,0,
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A32,1,
;N/A
A32,2,
;N/A
A32,3,
;N/A
A32,4,

A032,0,Auxiliary Heater Activation
A032,5,Auxiliary Heater Activation
A032,6,0 = Activation via Climatronic (J255)
A032,7,1 = Activation via Engine Control Module

I wonder if changing that from Activation via Engine Control Module (1) to Activation via Climatronic (J255) (0) is worth a shot?
 
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If your short-trips are so short that you don't need heat, try turning your HVAC completely off. I've read on the Phaeton forum that V6/V10 TDI auxiliary heaters don't engage if the blower motor speed is zero. I don't know if that applies to all cars, but it's worth a shot.

If your short-trips are long enough that you need heat, and you're actually getting heat, the Webasto was plenty hot.
I also read from vagarena that webasto will not start if climatronic is set to OFF or LO. I will test it.
And yes I have DPF :/

I wonder if changing that from Activation via Engine Control Module (1) to Activation via Climatronic (J255) (0) is worth a shot?
Yes, I will test it...
 
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How about doing something the complete opposite?
Could you schedule the Aux heater to let it start 10min before the driving? This might be a solution to avoid the aux heater running in short time by let it run longer?
 
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How about doing something the complete opposite?
Could you schedule the Aux heater to let it start 10min before the driving? This might be a solution to avoid the aux heater running in short time by let it run longer?
That sounds good. I have webasto TC3 gsm control... just send START txt message to car.

But it still working automatically when engine will lose temperature

Also tested climatronic LO setting and did not hear webasto after shutting down engine.
 
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I think if you want to disable start of webasto you should try to change the value for the minimum battery voltage - if you set a higher value for the lower set one - the unit will not start (the lower it's set to 11V as far as I remember - set it to max a value of 15V, you will never have that value at a cold start). Maybe it works.
 
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I think if you want to disable start of webasto you should try to change the value for the minimum battery voltage - if you set a higher value for the lower set one - the unit will not start (the lower it's set to 11V as far as I remember - set it to max a value of 15V, you will never have that value at a cold start). Maybe it works.
That is a good point.

I think that webasto will not start when I need it for heating after that adaptation.
I dont know are there another voltage value in remote control box? or will it use heater own values?
 
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If you want to start in case you modify the minim voltage, set the value to the max which alternator charge the battery i.e. 13 - 14V-I assume that you want to start the system after a short time of car driving. All the adaptions should be done in heater unit module - 18 Aux.heat. - Adaption tab. The remote is used to start/ stop or program the unit. You can't set the voltage from it.
 
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If you want to start in case you modify the minim voltage, set the value to the max which alternator charge the battery i.e. 13 - 14V-I assume that you want to start the system after a short time of car driving. All the adaptions should be done in heater unit module - 18 Aux.heat. - Adaption tab. The remote is used to start/ stop or program the unit. You can't set the voltage from it.

So, I want use it as preheater.
When car is "sleeping" the voltage is something about 12 -13V.

If I set the adaptation value to 13-15 webasto will not start as it should for preheating.

I dont want fix the values all the time ;) ;)
Maybe it will be the best for leave it alone.
 
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No you have 2 options in adaption menu don't you?
VOlatge for auxiliary heating, and for parking heating.
 
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Hi!
Do you have ECO button on your HVAC control panel? - try to press it!
If it's neccessary to do some hacking - overwrite "tank level low" sensor ;)
(It had very first Passat B6 bj. = Feb. 2005)
 
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I think this is done in the coding, at least on my cars it is (audi a3 and audi a6). How does your coding screen look like ?
 
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Hi!
Do you have ECO button on your HVAC control panel? - try to press it!
If it's neccessary to do some hacking - overwrite "tank level low" sensor ;)
(It had very first Passat B6 bj. = Feb. 2005)
No, there is not ECON button anymore.

It worked OK for a year, but how long it will work..... :rolleyes:

I think this is done in the coding, at least on my cars it is (audi a3 and audi a6). How does your coding screen look like ?
It is impossible to fix with coding.
The scan log are in the first post.

Someone are made some own patents to disable automatic heating in Finland.
 
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Why not build Bronken module. Software is downloadable at his download section.
 
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