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Hi, just a quick question when I try to perform the basic settings for oxygen sensor it just keeps saying test on and keeps running. How long is this test supposed to run because I was holding accellerator and brake for 10-15min and it still did not complete.

Its a 2010 Audi a5 2.0tfsi vcds version 14

Edited: Reason: Added AutoScan.

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Saturday,06,December,2014,12:52:16:12681
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WAURFAFR8AA030616   License Plate: JLX-7555
Mileage: 171920km-106826mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FR (8T0)
Scan: 01 03 05 06 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 77
         

VIN: WAURFAFR8AA030616   Mileage: 171920km-106826miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB)       Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
   Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AL    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H15 0001  
   Revision: E1H15---    
   Coding: 0114010A180F0160
   Shop #: WSC 50105 000 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL 001001
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
   VCID: 79F9E9FEF8E8DBE9285-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CA    HW: 8K0 907 379 CA
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0010  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 074D18
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7AFBF6F2F5EED0F121F-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0326  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0B0000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFECFACBE2C2E157B-802D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 C    HW: 8T0 959 760 C
   Component: MEM-BFS       H10 MEM-BFS       H10 00740074  
   Coding: 08017025002400001000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 43854B16C2A45139329-8016

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01211020090751
   Coding: 64022000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 000F841A93328A216FB-8055

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H25 0380  
   Revision: 10025001    Serial number: 00000000370845
   Coding: 26089095413CAF010001000300003D3D4F1C128802010161000000
   Shop #: WSC 06205 444 84955
   VCID: 3C7730EABF5A2EC1733-8069

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T1 955 119 D    HW: 8J1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 141009  H14 0070 
   Coding: 00F531

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02532C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AN    HW: 8K0 941 531 AN
   Component: E1 - LDS  H08 0090 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 B    HW: 8K0 907 410 B
   Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 H    HW: 8K0 959 655 H
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H39 0560  
   Serial number: 003EGD053J8   
   Coding: 303333334330303030304A55304C38543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 428B4E12D5BE583139F-8017

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339     HW: 8K0 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0050 
   Serial number: 5810000R0900003PFN

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME4C52210BA

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME4A463A68P

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME763F5228P

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME623F5802J

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME243F4D388

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME603E4122W

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90319IJJ000I9 
   Coding: 000016
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D713DEEA44027C944D-8068

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 950 Q    HW: 8T0 920 950 Q
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H33 0255  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: CHU11Z4A9     
   Coding: 831D01000300D705020001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 46835202F1966411157-8013

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 R    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0105  
   Revision: GB600050    Serial number: 5000G09A11807A
   Coding: 00C303
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 50AF745A03D2BAA1BFB-8005

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H06 0170 

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels: 8T0-035-785.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 A    HW: 8T0 035 785 
   Component: SG ext.Player H08 0280  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 020302
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 397929FEB0681BE9685-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0306  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000009506984 
   Coding: 011C03224000120102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 4581550ECC906F091CD-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 BCM2 1.1      H02 03260326  
   Coding: 01060698007A444402B0000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 78FFECFACBE2C2E157B-802D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H06 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8R0 959 591 A
   Component: J245EE20SKB13  

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AH    HW: 8T0 035 223 
   Component: DSP STD       H07 0230  
   Revision: S2200000    
   Coding: 0203010102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 74E7D8CAD78AA6817B3-8021

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 TSG BF        H11 03060306  
   Coding: 011C03224C00120102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 4487480AC7AA56010B3-8011

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000476999
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346718CA970AE681BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
   Part No: 8K5 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDEFC606FCCD995E1-8022

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 186 R    HW: 8T1 035 186 R
   Component: Con3 Sirius   H04 0351  
   Revision: 00000006    Serial number: AUZ5Z6I1290404
   Coding: 0402000201048500C3D98F0900
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 46835202F1966411157-8013

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 E    HW: 8T0 919 603 E
   Component: Display  

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 96
                    Mileage: 171235 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.02
                    Time: 22:49:00

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 152
                    Mileage: 171926 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.06
                    Time: 12:31:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 10000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 D    HW: 8T0 862 336 D
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H37 0600  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005055137
   Coding: 0010370
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3C7730EA7F5A2EC1733-8069

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:05)--------------------------
 
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Yes Apr flashed, I have no codes and have completed this once before but its just sitting at that screen. Exclude the failed/incomplete for catalytic converters. I am only looking to see how long the test is for on the oxygen sensors. Here's image of readiness.

http://s30.postimg.org/gr3nh0635/20141125_101428_HDR.jpg
 
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If you have a not deleted or altered any of the emissions related equipment, you will most likely need to road test the vehicle for 5 - 10 miles at highway speeds (above 50mph), include a couple key cycles and repeat as needed until Readiness monitors have been set or until fault codes are present.

- If after 2 or 3 drive cycles there are no codes and the Readiness monitors have not set, talk to your tuner.

- You can also post an Auto-Scan, maybe there is an ECM update for your vehicle.

. . . by the way, did you try to use Basic Settings [200]?
- If not, try that and follow the instruction messages, basically you will need to Press [On/Off/Next] to turn on BS and then press/hold the brake pedal and then press/hold down the accelerator pedal, ECM should control engine speed and the value block field will count down as the tests run and complete.

Hope this helps.

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Drpeter, I have driven over 200 miles with a few key cycles. I have tried the basics settings but there's no script to follow so I have to go thru each channel manually and it just keeps running "test on"

And test steps still to be performed is 0
 
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- If after 2 or 3 drive cycles there are no codes and the Readiness monitors have not set, talk to your tuner.
If, after several days and several hundred miles, you still get this:



.... and no fault codes...

Then you really do need to talk to your tuner. Get them to flash you back to stock, at least for the time being..

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Drpeter, I have driven over 200 miles with a few key cycles. I have tried the basics settings but there's no script to follow so I have to go thru each channel manually and it just keeps running "test on"

And test steps still to be performed is 0
- Agreed with Uwe, above, flashing back to stock will tell you a lot.

This is interesting, maybe you should post a before Auto-Scan, so we can have a look at a few things, and then see if anything changes after the flash back to stock, thank you..

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Any faults stored? This can prevent readiness tests from starting.
 
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Any faults stored? This can prevent readiness tests from starting.
no fault codes. codes(even though none were present) were cleared to reset adaptations and all readiness prior to this.

i will get the current autoscan today and post it up.

I spoke with APR and they suggest logging the vehicle and sending them logs. but on their support page what they show for values to log dont correspond to what i can check off. such as the block numbers..

aka the ones BOLDED. so what Block would this correspond to in Advanced Measuring Data? the other non bolded ones also do not match but I have found those blocks.

Code:
Vag-Com
Block #   Description

001-1     Engine Speed

014-3     Misfire Sum

[B]031-1 Lambda, Current Value[/B]

054-3     Accelerator Pedal Position

054-4     Throttle Plate Angle

101-3     Injection Timing (Median)

103-1*    Current Fuel Pressure*

[B]114-4 N75 Duty Cycle[/B]

115-3     Boost Pressure (Specified)

115-4     Boost Pressure (Actual)

230-1     Rail Pressure - Specified

230-2     Rail Pressure - Actual

-----------------------------------------

001-1     Engine Speed

003-4     ignition Timing

020-1     Cylinder Ignition Angle Delay (cyl 1)

020-2     Cylinder Ignition Angle Delay (cyl 2)

020-3     Cylinder Ignition Angle Delay (cyl 3)

020-4     Cylinder Ignition Angle Delay (cyl 4)

[B]031-1 Lambda, Current Value[/B]

054-3     Accelerator Pedal Position

101-3     Injection Timing (Median)

114-3     Engine Load (actual)

115-4     Boost Pressure (Actual)

230-2     Rail Pressure - Actual
 
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Also, Look at the readiness bits under Generic OBDII mode and compare. I've run into a few cars that showed different results in generic OBD-II vs VAG
 
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Santos has a good idea, look at the OBD-II function on the VCDS tool, also look at [Mode-07, Pending DTCs]


I spoke with APR and they suggest logging the vehicle and sending them logs. but on their support page what they show for values to log dont correspond to what i can check off. such as the block numbers..
The ECM on this vehicle should be a UDS controller and will not use [Meas. Blocks-08] where APR is instructing you to enter in the Group numbers.

- You will need to select [Adv. Meas. Values] button and from a pull down list you can choose the values needed to data log.

- UDS controller will have a bit different descriptions for these values and it can sometimes be confusing. With the Auto-Scan we will be able to see more and help you locate the specific values you are looking for.


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As a remaper myself , I agree that in the end the Tuner can have you see whatever you want to see :( ... Comparing Generic OBDII reading is a good idea.

You can have tottally different figures.
 
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ok i updated the first post to include the autoscan data.

if i understand correctly, the one block under advanced measuring data called current oxygen sensor control(something along that line) shows data as x.xxx Lamda/ x.xx mA, this should be the actual lamda value that I would be looking for to include in the datalog for apr's request?

again, thank you everyone for helping so far, i do appreciate this.
 
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Thanks for posting the Auto-Scan, it does help.


I spoke with APR and they suggest logging the vehicle and sending them logs. but on their support page what they show for values to log dont correspond to what i can check off. such as the block numbers..

aka the ones BOLDED. so what Block would this correspond to in Advanced Measuring Data? the other non bolded ones also do not match but I have found those blocks.


The values below are the equivalent of what APR has requested for data logging, or at least I think they are, it is an educated guess.

Traditional MVB = Advanced Measuring Values
---------------------------------------------------------
114-4 N75 Duty Cycle = Charge press. ctrl.; spec. value [loc 28]

031-1 Lambda, Current Value = Short term adaptation of mixture formation bank 1 [loc 171]


By the way, I noticed in your Auto-Scan, the readiness reads differently than your readiness status on the screen-shot, did anything change (clear codes, try and set readiness)?

In scan = Readiness: 0010 0101
In screen shot = 0010 0001



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Yes ecu was reset because battery was disconnected to do intake valve clean.

Thanks for posting the mvb to advanced measuring data information. When I do the log and get a response from Apr I'll post what they come up with.

In the generic obd II there's no pending codes either.

I do have a question regarding that screen though. How come the mode for oxygen sensors is greyed out?
 
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I do have a question regarding that screen though. How come the mode for oxygen sensors is greyed out?
- Perhaps that [Mode 5] is not available for this ECM configuration.

- You are referring to this page, right?





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- Perhaps that [Mode 5] is not available for this ECM configuration.

- You are referring to this page, right?





drpeter
correct, that and Mode 6. was just a side question lol.

also, Peter did you receive the email i sent regarding the output test information?

I did figure out the "basic settings" part. I was clicking go and immediately holding the brake pedal. this caused the "Aborted | Safety Reasons"

I found out after clicking go, wait for module to say "Not Running | x" then hold brake and accelerator. this was after seeing the mode in advanced measuring data for "Operating Instructions"
 
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correct, that and Mode 6. was just a side question lol.
- Okay, so it does appear that not all OBD-II functions are supported by these controllers. All questions are good, "Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers".

also, Peter did you receive the email i sent regarding the output test information?
- Yes, I was looking into this... not finding much.


I did figure out the "basic settings" part. I was clicking go and immediately holding the brake pedal. this caused the "Aborted | Safety Reasons"
I found out after clicking go, wait for module to say "Not Running | x" then hold brake and accelerator. this was after seeing the mode in advanced measuring data for "Operating Instructions"
Glad it was something simple and good information to know! Thanks for posting it.

Let us know if we can be of any further help..

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So slightly off topic but still related.. I found out why exhaust fumes are entering the car... I took the trunk liner out and was gonna foam bomb all the crevices, then I noticed on drivers side where the foam padding is was black.. So I looked at the vent.. No flap!.. Looks like it melted a bit :-/..

Here's drivers side.


And heres passenger side..
 
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