2014 Skoda Citigo MFSW retrofit

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Hello everybody, this is my first post here. I was directed here from a different forum as I was told I may get some support here.

I do not own a VCDS software, my autoscan is a courtesy of my mechanic.

I own a 2014 Skoda Citigo Greentech and after doing some research I've decided to add MFSW to my car. I have resourced right buttons for my citigo (VAG #5E0 919 719 C) as I wanted to keep things as original as possible, Citigo's only had buttons on one side when fitted at the factory - to my knowledge at least. I have followed fitting instructions from Polo's Forum. Ive added LIN wire and +12V to the steering wheel...

Unfortunetly, I have stumbled across an unexpected issue, my BCM doesnt have a required PIN at all. yes, I've discovered it when was struggling to add LIN wire to the T73b/17 connector. In my case, this PIN doesnt exist on the BCM its unassigned/empty.

Accordingly to car specific pin assigment diagram T73b/17 shows as unassigned where t73b/24 is described as 'LIN 2 Roof' and it is on the BCM. What is more interesting, on actual wiring diagrams for this car it shows that MFSW should be connected to T73b/17... very confusing.

To the point, question to the guys with know-how, will it make any difference if I would connect it to T73b/24 or should I start looking for new BCM. If so, which modules I should be looking for?

My apologies for creating new thread but as Im NOT verified member I could not continue on THIS THREAD

Your wisdom will be much appreciated...

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I do not own a VCDS software, my autoscan is a courtesy of my mechanic.
If the fact that he uses cloned tools is any indication of the quality of his work, you should probably find a different mechanic.

In any case, getting help in this forum requires the use of a legitimate VCDS system. They are available directly from us:
https://store.ross-tech.com/shop/cat/VCDS

... Or from any of our authorized resellers:
http://www.ross-tech.com/distributors.php#uk

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If the fact that he uses cloned tools is any indication of the quality of his work, you should probably find a different mechanic.

-Uwe-
I can only say, that as a legitimate business they shouldn't be doing so. Nevertheless, it's bit harsh to take it on me as how should I know if the given workshop uses a legitimate software?

I came here for help and advice not to be scrutinised because of someone's negligence of copyrights. As customer of this mechanic I don't judge him by the tools he uses but by quality of his work. As a customer of this workshop, never had any problems with their services.
 
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Support is reserved for users of genuine VCDS systems. Arriving with data gleaned by using cloned systems and software is unlikely to end with much help. If you had a legitimate scan then your situation would doubtless be different.

Do you have access to a genuine scan from a genuine tool?
 
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Do you have access to a genuine scan from a genuine tool?
Are You saying I need to ask people at the workshops if they are running legitimate software before obtaining autoscan?

You know the reply, they all will say "yes, of course we use legitimate copy". I will end up paying the man for doing autoscan, will post it here, just to find out it was not legitimate copy... and later, try to ask for the refund
 
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Essentially, yes. If you have a genuine autoscan then you're more likely to get the assistance you want. If you return with more fakes then no dice.

Or you could remove all doubt and buy the tool yourself. It's not a waste of money, more an investment.
 
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Essentially, yes.(...)Or you could remove all doubt and buy the tool yourself.
I do understand, that these are house rules to have a legitimate copy in order to get ANY support but suggesting that I should question every workshop I go to "if they're using legitimate software" or invest in a software just to post an ONE AUTOSCAN and to please some people here...

and regardless if I have software or not, my question is completely irrevelant to the software itself...

I signed up here to get support from people who can shed some light on my problem and not suggest to find a workshop with a legitimate software...

oh, would You like my post code, so You can point me to the nearest garage with legitimate VCDS so I will avoid posting another "fake" scan and embarassing myself as they all will say "of course we have"...

Thank You all
 
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It doesn't need to be a garage to have an autoscan done, anyone with a genuine VCDS would probably do it for you. In fact if you're near North Yorks pop in and I'll do it for you for free. Well, as long as you tell me which garage is using dodgy stolen software...
 
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I can only say, that as a legitimate business they shouldn't be doing so. Nevertheless, it's bit harsh to take it on me as how should I know if the given workshop uses a legitimate software?
Actually, I'm being fairly gentle with you. Most people who post data from clone/pirate systems here immediately get branded as pirates and their threads get moved to the Hall of Shame.

There are 16 or so people at Ross-Tech, plus others at our distributors, who make their living with this product. Hopefully you can understand why we will not help someone who comes here with data from a pirated version.

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As I stated in previous posts, I do understand the house rules and I dont agree with software piracy neither.

@Uwe I much apreciate not being moved to the Hall of Shame but as explained I was completely unaware of garage not using a legitimate soft. I would not be so stupid to post "fake" scan knowing its a dodgy one.

@Viking I do apreciate Your offer however You are mere 240 miles away from me lol
 
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Let us have your postcode and see if anyone is near you.
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I did got in touch with a guy with VCDS nearby from another forum, but than again I do NOT want to make a foul of myself and post another dodgy autoscan.
Let us have your postcode and see if anyone is near you.
Much apreciate Your help, Im in TW4, its nearby Heathrow Airport.

Oh, I dont mind paying for doing the autoscan at the end of the day its someone's time.

My goal is to get an answer to my main question how to and what I need to get MFSW to work on my Citigo. Im prepared to change the BCM if needed but firstly, someone need to direct me in to the right direction and apparently Ross-Tech forum is the only place were there are knowledgeable people to provide some support on the issue.

Above all, I need to get VCDS autoscan sorted so I can make a progress...
 
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As said before, why not buy VCDS yourself and remove all doubt. It's an essential tool if you're doing stuff like this.
 
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I did got in touch with a guy with VCDS nearby from another forum, but than again I do NOT want to make a foul of myself and post another dodgy autoscan.
PM me a snippet of it (at least one full control module's worth of data) and I'll let you know whether it's safe to post it. :)

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As said before, why not buy VCDS (...) It's an essential tool if you're doing stuff like this.
it's a rather one off job, I won't be doing this once this will be all sorted so I don't think it's realy 'essential' tool for me.

PM me a snippet of it and I'll let you know whether it's safe to post it.
will do for sure :)

Guys, to be fairly honest, this forum is my last hope. If it wouldn't be for my desperation to get it working - most probably I would just think to myself sod that I will leave it as it is - however I would realy love to have it sorted.
 
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Thanks to a very helpful member from the other group I do now have a legitimate autoscan.

So can we please return to the main question: where do I connect LIN wire from MFSW, can I use LIN2 pin described as 'roof' or do I have to change BCM to something different if so, with which BCM should I replace it with....

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Wednesday,17,April,2019,21:40:29:42399
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBZZZAAZED625328   License Plate: KY14CFL
Mileage: 55190km-34293mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 17 19 25 44 56 61

VIN: TMBZZZAAZED625328   Mileage: 55190km-34293miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYA)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AP    HW: 04C 907 309 P
   Component: 1.0l R3 MPI   H23 6703  
   Revision: UNH23---    
   Coding: 00110012020401000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AP 001007
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AP.rod
   VCID: 69DE313488DC7D026A-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E    HW: 1S0 614 517 E
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0012  
   Serial number: A00IAPK
   Coding: 31BF24718BAF02F68CFD24F7D1B14090590100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
   VCID: 316E9954608CC5C262-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1S0-937-09x-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 B    HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H59 0563  
   Revision: -8------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 7CB829000001000000020FF46C6BACD07740426F7E860440200000420000
   Shop #: WSC 42843 002 104857
   VCID: 326C96586D8AFEDA1B-8066

1 Fault Found:
00901 - Back-Up Lamps 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 55087 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.16
                    Time: 10:27:16


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B    HW: 1S0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00M H03 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003MY006C5A6
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304D
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3D76B564ACD431A2F6-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405N25BG0212H

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB400I50L5CEOQX

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB401C50Q3OJ9U/

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1ST 920 960 L    HW: 1ST 920 960 L
   Component: KOMBI         H32 0205  
   Revision: X0032013    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 414200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04752
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW12.rod
   VCID: 5EB412E841920ABA8F-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H59 0563  
   Revision: -8------    
   Coding: 031100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70E85C50A3068CCA2D-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1ST 920 960 L
   Component: IMMO          H32 0205  
   Revision: X0032013    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6ADC4E388DDA761A63-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R2 909 144 R    HW: 6R2 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  321 3111  
   Serial number: CE1H0729
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 56026 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 479AD78CFE086B725C-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1ST 035 156 Q    HW: 1ST 035 156 Q
   Component: Radio         H03 0063  
   Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SKZAZ1N0672433
   Coding: 0000040901
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 5DB615E4449411A296-8008

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 55164 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.17
                    Time: 13:32:27


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 534     HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: Batt-regelung H59 0563  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 032B7864
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70E85C50A3068CCA2D-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1S0 915 181 B    HW: 1S0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0210 

No fault code found.

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I am aware of the faults. Nothing major, so please don't worry about.

Special thanks goes once again to Uwe, for not moving my post straight away to Hall of Shame.
 
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