Audi A6 C7 SIDE ASSIST retrofit, problem

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Autoscan i provide on monday. I have previous scans, hope these errors are the same:
This issue is:
Whan i power on side assist by button near mirror, both mirror leds blink and then it write on instrumment display side assist not available. And diagnostic have problem with lef led.

Before i switch on the Side Assist.
Code:
Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 566 M    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H08 0070  
   Serial number: 0432084805
   Coding: 040311
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 393AD96AB86932879E-806C

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 568 M    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H08 0070 
   Serial number: 0431896700          
   Coding: 040311

No fault code found.
And after button switched:
Code:
730378 - Warning Lamp for Lane Change Assistance in Driver-Side Ext. Mirror 
          C1116 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
 
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Hello,
Can You try to swap LED indicator?
 
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Yes, the same error.
 
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Ok. Can You provide me which pins from SLAVE module You connected with left LED and right LED?
 
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I would also suggest the same as CuturiloD. 99.9% sure it's a wiring problem. If it would be a SW issue, it would give an error on both leds.
 
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So i have some info about pinout, but have to confirm on monday.
On slave:
4 - Left mirror LED
2 - Right mirror LED
6 - GND
 
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Hi, I think this is NOT good.
Try this :
J770 pin 6 - - ->pin 1 left LED
J770 pin 2 - - ->pin 2 left LED, pin 2 right LED
J770 pin 4 - - ->pin 1 right LED
 
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Yes, he checked, it is like you say.
6 - left led
4 - right led
2 - GND

It is interesting, that after i push button, it blink on both sides and then it make error :-(
 
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Pin 2 is NOT GND, pin 2 need to be +(positive connection), pin 6 and pin 4 need to be negative connection.
Try to connect LEDs in oposite way.
 
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Is a difference between facelift and prefacelift for led connection!

According to ELSA:
Prefl: Led left and right have same pin2, and pin6 for left / pin8 for right.
J770 pin 6 - - ->pin 1 left LED
J770 pin 2 - - ->pin 2 left LED, pin 2 right LED
J770 pin 4 or (8 according to ELSA) - - ->pin 1 right LED

Fl: Led left and right have same pin6, and pin4 for left / pin2 for right.
J770 pin 4 - - ->pin 2 left LED
J770 pin 6- - ->pin 1 left LED, pin 1 right LED
J770 pin 2 - - ->pin 2 right LED

Your modules are from Facelift, your car is Facelift model > MY2015+?
Olso like CuturioD - i sugest to change pin connection 1<->2 in door T2 plug or on led lamps, depending of which is more easy for you.

Maybe one of you can help me with pinout for led lamps, i can't see pin number on the plug or on the lamp. I manage to find positive and negative pin but can't tel if positive is considered pin1 and negative pin 2 or reverse. Can any of you have a visual check on their lamp?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hello, sorry for delay, i have no reply from my technician.
Yes car is Facelift 2015+ model and also facelift rear radars.
So we have to check connection from above...
 
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After 10h of work i end up with this, i think modules are faulty ... not even try to calibrate any more ....

Code:
Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 566 M    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H06 0060  
   Serial number: 0374762628
   Coding: 040311
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 39799BE4B8599A8796-806C

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 568 M    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H06 0060 
   Serial number: 0362248074          
   Coding: 040311

5 Faults Found:
729349 - Control Module for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1114 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58

729358 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km

729605 - Control Module 2 for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1115 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58

4187662 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km

4192014 - Control Module 2 for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1115 04 [009] - Internal System Fault
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58
Somobody think different?
 
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After 10h of work i end up with this, i think modules are faulty ... not even try to calibrate any more ....

Code:
Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 566 M    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H06 0060  
   Serial number: 0374762628
   Coding: 040311
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 39799BE4B8599A8796-806C

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 568 M    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H06 0060 
   Serial number: 0362248074          
   Coding: 040311

5 Faults Found:
729349 - Control Module for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1114 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58

729358 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km

729605 - Control Module 2 for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1115 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58

4187662 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km

4192014 - Control Module 2 for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1115 04 [009] - Internal System Fault
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 115822 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 21:48:58
Somobody think different?

If i know it right:
1. When radars are new calibration is required
2. Calibration is required when radars are used and are not from the same vehicles
3. Calibration is not required if both radars are from the same vehicle
 
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Yes to 1 and 2. But calibration is required also if you change the radars to another vehicle. VIN changes it wipes the calibration.
 
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I was buy used radars, and after small problems with wirin instalation everything working perfectly without calibration.
 
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Are these swa2.0 or 3.0? 3.0 loses calibration as it also incorporates component protection scheme.
 
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The problem here is “ Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error“
 
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There is no component protection on these modules and work with out calibration when retrofiited to another car. Mine did
 
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Hello, do you have Vag Can Pro and did you try to upload dataset for you car ?
Today my technician check connection of both radar and try to find error why mirror leds are not working. I let you know!
 
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There is no component protection on these modules and work with out calibration when retrofiited to another car. Mine did
SWA3.0 modules have CP. If these don't then they're SWA2.0 max.
 
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