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Is it possible to flash the software to higher level, or new controller needed?
 
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Is it possible to flash the software to higher level, or new controller needed?
I would think it's possible to flash it.

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I would think it's possible to flash it.

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It most certenly is. Now is there corresponding TPI for Skoda is another question.
 
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Okay, all fixed. How it all got mixed up and not working I don't know, it was like this when I bought it.

The fix was (using VCDS of course)

Start the engine.

1. Open Controller 22 - AWD
2. Open Basic Settings - 04
3. In Basic Settings use the drop down selection box to select "MAS02928 - Pump Motor"
4. Hit "Go" and let it run. Took a minute or so, during which time I could hear the Haldex pump cycling up and down and relearning its function.

After a while the Pump Basic Setting function "Finished Correctly", and everything started to work properly.

Printscreen of the values now is here.

http://www.viking-heating.co.uk/damage/yeti fixed.png


Massive thanks to my new best friend Matt at www.haldexrepairs.co.uk for taking the time to listen and understand what was going on, and then coming up with the solution. :thumbs:

Hi all,

I just read also www.haldexrepairs.com, thanks Matt @threepot, you have good information on your page!

My haldex problem occurred through fault code on auto scan presented here:

Code:
Sunday,21,June,2020,20:59:44:05483
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Valtterin Paja Oy

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP542660 License Plate: R-7
Mileage: 208312km-129439mi Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 13 15 16 17 18 19 22 2B 42 44 52 55 5F 69

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP542660 Mileage: 208312km-129439miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CRBC) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 021 EA HW: 04L 907 309 D
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC H22 8126  
   Revision: 83H22---    
   Coding: 1119001A045605083000
   Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021EA 002007
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DS_002.rod
   VCID: 68DFB6FC9366B0C6A3-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 CK HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
   Component: ESC H31 0472  
   Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 6304300000141E
   Coding: 04FA62A12424096E037D070641C32920462490C0E08294F3F4605074C009
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033.rod
   VCID: 071D9540BE385FBE4A-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A HW: 5Q0 959 435 
   Component: VWKESSYMQB 021 0604  
   Revision: 00021000 Serial number: 0194742813
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
   VCID: 3A7B3CB4BD4AF25605-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 AB HW: 5G0 907 044 AB
   Component: Climatronic H02 0805  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 02020104204101011005000000101000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 67DDB5C09E78BFBEAA-8032

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 Q HW: 5Q0 937 086 Q
   Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 026 0095  
   Revision: -------- Serial number: 86582910130021
   Coding: 00030A46C24122FB4BE44000001C07081C00000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 012003
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_012.rod
   VCID: 489F567CF3A690C683-801C

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A HW: 5G1 955 119 A Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS 131030 042 0551 
   Serial number: 131031211222
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 HW: 5Q0 955 547 Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLFS 024 0042 
   Serial number: Y13M11D06H20M40S13S6
   Coding: 00A8DD

   Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 B HW: 5Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACC Bosch MQB H04 0200  
   Serial number: 04111376510977
   Coding: 00000900FE0339
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001014
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3663288489521636E1-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW20 014 0385  
   Serial number: 003F6R024DF%
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00064
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 41894B58D09CA18E44-8014

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 510 13
   Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887 
   Serial number: 35767000000E42711E0S
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 510 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887 
   Serial number: 35867000000197DC0E0%
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 511 13
   Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502BD1118A30824+
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 511 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502AD1118A32F3CG
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 610 13
   Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502AF1230BB190AD
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 BB HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0135  
   Revision: FF027027 Serial number: 20131104500125
   Coding: 0C00
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 73E5D190DAA0431E06-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G0 920 871 A HW: 5G0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI 353 2210  
   Coding: 07A41010AF80000800886A01040000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
   VCID: 285FF6FC53E670C663-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364) Labels:| 5Q0-963-272.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 963 272 C HW: 5Q0 963 272 C
   Component: STH-MQB 006 0069  
   Coding: 9309
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS 002014
   ROD: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS.rod
   VCID: 3663288489521636E1-8062

   Remote Control Auxiliary Heater: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 963 513 HW: 5Q0 963 513 
   Component: R149 T91-LIN 003 0301 
   Serial number: 00000000000000735513

2 Faults Found:
0139 - Recirculation pump 
          B1382 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 197813 km
                    Date: 2020.06.09
                    Time: 12:15:24

                    Operating condition of parking heater: System malfunction
                    71
                    Coolant temperature of parking heater: 43 °C
                    Coolant temperature: 49 °C
                    Engine running status: detected
                    Fuel level: 26 l
                    Heater output: 0 W

0135 - Heater Unit Locked 
          B138F 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 208020 km
                    Date: 2021.01.06
                    Time: 16:59:26

                    Operating condition of parking heater: locked
                    71
                    Coolant temperature of parking heater: 55 °C
                    Coolant temperature: 60 °C
                    Engine running status: detected
                    Fuel level: 23 l
                    Heater output: 0 W


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 Q HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High 212 2163  
   Revision: -------- Serial number: 31101310800658
   Coding: 030100340B087300EF00025A080F00010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 010015
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_010.rod
   VCID: 3F8D4DA0A668D77E32-806A

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K HW: 5G0 959 442 K Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H15 0038 
   Serial number: 29130000211590053441
   Coding: 2CFFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8043 
   Serial number: 6928321703          

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D HW: 0CQ 907 554 D
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7076  
   Serial number: HA1-00021.09.13
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002001
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_002.rod
   VCID: 46835844F9B286B671-8012

1 Fault Found:
16670 - All-Wheel Drive 
          C1113 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 125
                    Mileage: 208312 km
                    Date: 2021.01.10
                    Time: 00:04:21


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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels:* 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA H01 0120  
   Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 13000251150001
   Coding: 5500000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB.rod
   VCID: 3467128C9F2E0426DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 B HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS 009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000081569060 
   Coding: 003B1320D000040000001000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4487424CCF8EB4A66F-8010

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A HW: 5Q4 959 811 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV 007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000003291063
   Coding: 010000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 S HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 125 1063  
   Coding: 0102
   Shop #: WSC 31610 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4487424CCF8EB4A66F-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 B HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS 009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000081576823 
   Coding: 003B1120DE00040000801000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43854150CA80B39E56-8016

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A HW: 5Q4 959 812 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG 007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000003242047
   Coding: 090000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 A HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU H07 0080  
   Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 02AA00000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
   VCID: 3D7137A8AC64C56E20-8068

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 HW: 3D0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links H05 0012 
   Coding: 2E0000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 HW: 3D0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts H05 0012 
   Coding: 2E0000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 035 846 A HW: 5G0 035 846 A
   Component: MU-S-N-ER 040 0430  
   Serial number: V1F00911132420
   Coding: 02730201FF00000011110001000800031F0100840100010045
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 275DF5C05EF87FBE6A-8072

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D HW: 5G0 919 605 D
   Component: ABT_Std_Nav H51 0022 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9NJ9027H3      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 AB HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2015/16 --- 0051 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:| 5Q0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383 A HW: 5Q0 907 383 A
   Component: Anhaenger H11 0030  
   Revision: 6B001003 Serial number: 00000194785929
   Coding: 0100000200000000
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctPivotHella 001001
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella.rod
   VCID: 35612F8894541D2EE8-8060

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:20)--------------------------

Sorry, my scanning computer had wrong date&time.

1. I changed haldex oil and blowed smudge out with pressure air.
2. I demounted haldex pump and washed the filter on it. And more smudge was plowed out with air.
3. Oil in and I carried out pump motor procedure in AWD module basic settings.
4. Message from procedure was "Finished-timeout" and after that "Not running"

So should I change oil and clean the system again after small drive, disassemble the pump and clean it or replace the pump?

On AWD module's basic settings there is also command: resetting of all adaptation values. What this does? Would it be necessary to carry out in this case?

Thanks again for all!
 
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Update does not fix sludge does it? ;)

Change the oil at least two more times until it drains clean!
 
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Sorry, my scanning computer had wrong date&time.

1. I changed haldex oil and blowed smudge out with pressure air.
2. I demounted haldex pump and washed the filter on it. And more smudge was plowed out with air.
3. Oil in and I carried out pump motor procedure in AWD module basic settings.
4. Message from procedure was "Finished-timeout" and after that "Not running"

So should I change oil and clean the system again after small drive, disassemble the pump and clean it or replace the pump?

On AWD module's basic settings there is also command: resetting of all adaptation values. What this does? Would it be necessary to carry out in this case?
@Valpaoy I'm having an identical issue with my Mk7 Golf R where I get the "Finished - timeout" message. Did you find a solution for this or any additional info? I would be very interested in any insights etc. I've only found two issues like this and neither had resolutions posted.

TIA
Josh
 
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I have 2015 VW Tiguan with 80K on it and Matt at Haldexrepairs said any pump that has done more than 45K miles needs swapping out (commutator wears out). My haldex GEN5 pump showed no errors, lots of front wheel spin and no rear drive.

Swapped out the pump and new oil, learn function run and now have 4WD enabled.
 
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