2014 Skoda Octavia 2.0 tdi dsg 5E. Error stop start

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Looking for help with message stating stop start error. Would new battery fix this ?
 
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Several problems can cause this generic "stop start error" message (not just a weak battery), please post a FULL UNEDITED VCDS Auto-Scan so we can see the exact fault code(s).

BTW is the battery the original one fitted at the factory?
 
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Monday,11,March,2019,16:51:46:36750
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VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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VIN: TMBBJ7NE6E0143013   License Plate: SM63
Mileage: 104346km-64837mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: NE-SK37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F

VIN: TMBBJ7NE6E0143013   Mileage: 104346km-64837miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CKFC)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 021 DT    HW: 04L 907 309 D
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 5520  
   Revision: 83H22---    
   Coding: 111D0012030501090000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DT 002004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DT_002.rod
   VCID: 7AAEFAEC4C57A137D09-802E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 040 N    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6F MQB  H52 4305  
   Revision: 05852204    Serial number: TFK01311181889
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 221EE28C844709F7A89-8076

1 Fault Found:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System 
          P1734 00 [002] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 R    HW: 5Q0 907 379 F
   Component: EMB8 EHCB     H31 0356  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 600240000004FF
   Coding: 1A078A912424096F0077060141C6245851249000608224F000610070C002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_033.rod
   VCID: 4BC06F28534DE8BF3BF-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 907 044 E    HW: 5E0 907 044 E
   Component: Climatronic   H02 0805  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 01110104000100011005000000100000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003017
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_SK37.rod
   VCID: 2708F398EF65ECDFFF7-8072

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AC    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AC
   Component: BCM MQBAB M   H16 0124  
   Serial number: 00011335300203
   Coding: 0F001842424700DB07A04082B10407280000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 012001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_012.rod
   VCID: 79ACE5E04951AA2FD93-802C

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E2 955 119     HW: 5E2 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 131209  041 0570 
   Serial number:         131212215056
   Coding: 0E4FFD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 171     HW: 5Q0 951 171 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0313 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY1312042QB

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000058268484

   Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559     HW: 8U0 955 559 
   Component: G355_FeuchteS  H07 0002 
   Serial number: 20594528            

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 B    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H09 0033  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 60831336000773
   Coding: 0001050011
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002018
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 382A20E432DB732766D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AC    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AC
   Component: Airbag VW20   012 0189  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003P4PS27KE%
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C5400CC008800000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
   VCID: 7F580BF85775841FE77-802A

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 012 13
   Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3576U00000008BB48E0L
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 112 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3586U000000CD4C48E0X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 912 13
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  111 0148 
   Serial number: 3516R5C1D8102000000+
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 612 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  111 0148 
   Serial number: 3526R30398802000000X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 111 13
   Component: FrontSensor_D  114 0149 
   Serial number: 3556V7B4D3902000000D
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 DB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 03121304220842
   Coding: 0410
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_012_AU37.rod
   VCID: 79ACE5E04951AA2FD93-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5E0 920 961 D    HW: 5E0 920 961 D
   Component: KOMBI         233 2210  
   Coding: 23A502082180AF0001083E00000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
   VCID: 290CF5A0F971DAAFE93-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 P    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
   Component: GW MQB Mid    124 1164  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0001378792
   Coding: 030100040F087300EF0002481C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 010015
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_010.rod
   VCID: 3E2636FC10FF4D17AC1-806A

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 A    HW: 5E0 919 719 A
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000B0204131213

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
   Serial number: 6201122203          

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393 B    HW: 5Q4 959 393 B
   Component: TSG FS        009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000086214242 
   Coding: 001000208001040000001100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE420C640729F7C89-8016

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000001439171
   Coding: 1D0200

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  122 1043  
   Coding: 8103
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_010.rod
   VCID: 41DC4D00610132EFD13-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392 B    HW: 5Q4 959 392 B
   Component: TSG BFS       009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000086729982 
   Coding: 001000208C01040000001100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00103
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 41DC4D00610132EFD13-8014

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000001487254
   Coding: 050200

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5E0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 035 842 A    HW: 5E0 035 842 A
   Component: MU-S-D-ER     040 0490  
   Serial number: S7E00501140568
   Coding: 03730100FF0000001111120100A800002F0000860100010002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 211CED80814112EFB13-8074

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 B    HW: 5E0 919 605 B
   Component: ABT_Std_Plus  H50 0022 
   Serial number: SKZ8Z9NK600QAQ      

1 Fault Found:
1555 - Check Software Version Management 
          B201A 00 [009] -  - 
          [Check software version management]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 176
                    Mileage: 104344 km
                    Date: 2019.03.11
                    Time: 16:36:19

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.2 V


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:14, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.3V)-----------
 
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Thanks.
I clear scan nearly every month but AUTO TRANS Fault shows up every time
would really like to get to the bottom of this.
but the stop start has got me real worried

Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 040 N HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component: DQ250-6F MQB H52 4305
Revision: 05852204 Serial number: TFK01311181889
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00103
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 221EE28C844709F7A89-8076

1 Fault Found:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System
P1734 00 [002] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
 
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battery is Varta
BEM Code 7P0 915 105
68ah 380 A
when i checked only 68ah was inputted
and fleeze under manufacturer ???
I changed it to vao
7P0 915 105 has only 9 characters. not 10 or 11 so abit lost
and serial number was blank
Thanks
Mark
 
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Thanks.
I clear scan nearly every month but AUTO TRANS Fault shows up every time
would really like to get to the bottom of this.
but the stop start has got me real worried

Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 040 N HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component: DQ250-6F MQB H52 4305
Revision: 05852204 Serial number: TFK01311181889
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00103
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 221EE28C844709F7A89-8076

1 Fault Found:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System
P1734 00 [002] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
That fault gets mentioned a lot on briskoda.net and is caused by the switches in selector lever being faulty or intermittent. Most owners have had the whole selector replaced under warranty but as yours is a 2014 model you would need to press the dealer and/or Skoda UK for as much goodwill contribution as you can get.
 
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Transmission fault is "Intermittent - Not Confirmed" and TCU has decided not to inform the Gateway: "02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000".
I doubt this is the source of your start/stop problem.

When you changed the battery, did you change any of the relevant channels in the Gateway? Because if you did not, the Gateway does not know you changed the battery.

-Uwe-
 
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battery is Varta
BEM Code 7P0 915 105
68ah 380 A
when i checked only 68ah was inputted
and fleeze under manufacturer ???
I changed it to vao
7P0 915 105 has only 9 characters. not 10 or 11 so abit lost
and serial number was blank
What exactly were the original BEM values, and what did you change them to? You may have confused the battery management system...
 
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Thanks Uwe, yeah I have read thr a few posts "intermittent/ not confirmed so haven't been that concerned as you've stated, but would be nice to get it cleared sometime. It's thrown up them codes for well over 18 months with stop start working fine. It does show up in gateway once a month but after clearing it goes back to Address 02: ok
Uwe, I've not changed the battery.
I went in and checked to see if the original battery was coded in after watching your
Video, on coding in batteries and found that only 68ah and fleece was inputed.
No serial number was present.
And my battery has only 9 characters 7PO 915 105
That's where I got lost
 
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Thanks Uwe, yeah I have read thr a few posts "intermittent/ not confirmed so haven't been that concerned as you've stated, but would be nice to get it cleared sometime. It's thrown up them codes for well over 18 months with stop start working fine. It does show up in gateway once a month but after clearing it goes back to Address 02: ok
If it shows up in the Gateway after a while, I would get it fixed, per Dave's post #6.

Uwe, I've not changed the battery.
I went in and checked to see if the original battery was coded in after watching your
Video, on coding in batteries and found that only 68ah and fleece was inputed.
No serial number was present.
And my battery has only 9 characters 7PO 915 105
That's where I got lost
Apologies for misunderstanding. Have you had this car since new? Is the battery the original one?

-Uwe-
 
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Hi sorry,
Just to make it clear, car has been going fine no stop start issues for 2 years, until Saturday when it threw up error on dash stating
Start stop error. No lights on dash or radio and when I look in the radio under information sometimes it says error start stop and other times it not there and changes to driver seat belt not fastened, still under the heading off start/stop, I will try and show pictures later. I looked at the battery and its seem to be the factory fitted with BEM number, but when checked if coded using vcds it only showed up 68ah and fleece, (what ever fleece means ? ) pics to follow. Also no manufacture and serial number were inputted, which I haven't added yet
Thanks for any help on this guys
Mark
 
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"Fleece" is the German term for a type of AGM battery.

If this is a 2014 car with Start/Stop and the battery is original, the battery doesn't owe you anything. :)

Can you post the relevant channels from the Gateway please?

-Uwe-
 
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Uwe,its just sum- how (started working again). ive been working it all weekend 250 miles. and its not been working and showing error.
Last ten mins it said.
In status on radio its being saying allsorts.
(start -stop system status) = system protection intervertion.
Button/lever activated too often.
It started working when i select P (park) it cuts out as it should.
but when i select R (reverse) it tries to start but doesnt catch and doesnt start then it tries again 2 secs later and starts and runs.
Also can be stopped and started by pressing @off button next to gear stick and it catches first time.
I will have to get the gear selector to starter looked at, thinking its a lose wire
 
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Monday,11,March,2019,20:00:21:36750
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
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www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBBJ7NE6E0143013 License Plate: SM63



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UDS Adaptation Channel (15B): IDE03256-MAS06106-Battery adaptation-Battery technology
Stored value Fleece


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UDS Adaptation Channel (15B): IDE03256-MAS06108-Battery adaptation-Battery Serial Number
Stored value


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UDS Adaptation Channel (15B): IDE03256-MAS06108-Battery adaptation-Battery Serial Number
Stored value


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UDS Adaptation Channel (15B): IDE03256-MAS06107-Battery adaptation-Battery manufacturer
Stored value VAO


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UDS Adaptation Channel (15B): IDE03256-MAS06105-Battery adaptation-Rated battery capacity
Stored value 68 Ah
 
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