Has the '00-'01 airbag controller bug been squashed?

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bikergeek

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Hello, longtime lurker, first time poster. I have a genuine VCDS cable, purchased in November of 2017, and am using version 18.9.1.0 of VCDS. My car is a 2001 Beetle 2.0 GLS, acquired in October of 2017. It has about 126,000 miles on it.

I see a lot of warnings around about how the airbag controller module in certain '00-'01 Golf, Jetta, and New Beetle vehicles has a bug that gets tickled by VCDS if you try to scan it or make any changes to it. However that page also states that that bug has been swatted and/or worked around in more recent versions of VCDS. It does look, from the attached autoscan, like my airbag controller has the "bad" part number, 6Q0 909 605 A. I haven't inspected the controller physically. Doing so would involve kneeling outside the car in the snow to get the panel off--not a great plan in New England in February!

Do I still need to worry about this bug, at this point?

Here is an autoscan.

Code:
Sunday,24,February,2019,15:40:35:10877
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




Chassis Type: 1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
 
   Mileage: 203190km-126256miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 BS
   Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G  *3655  
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70B92E7093B1B4576ED-5160

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
   Part No: 01M 927 733 JF
   Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    4719  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 7DA70744D4E3C93FF5B-0962

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
   Component: ABS     20 IE CAN  0001  
   Coding: 03504
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3E25C04899651227AC1-4B1E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
   Component: 16 AIRBAG VW5  0D   0004  
   Coding: 12598
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3537DF64AC53D17F7DB-4B3C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-xx0.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 920 901 X
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V07  
   Coding: 03202
   Shop #: WSC 09141  
   VCID: 313FEB74583BFD5F213-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: Ident
   Component: Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0B2142050  
   Ident.-Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0B2142050

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V072  
   Coding: 00007
   Shop #: WSC 09141  
   VCID: 70B92E7093B1B4576ED-4B1E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 959 799 AJ
   Component: 5X Zentral-SG Komf. 0001  
   Coding: 00257
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 065568A881358AE7A41-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J2959802C
   Component: 5X T<F5>rsteuerger. FS0002r  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J2959801D
   Component: 5X T<F5>rsteuerger. BF0002r  

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 03:31, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
 
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The bug in those old airbag modules has never been fixed. I doubt the software in them is can be updated in the field.

The behavior in VCDS (back then called "VAG-COM") that was triggering this bug was addressed back in 2004. I don't think you need to worry about it.

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The behavior in VCDS (back then called "VAG-COM") that was triggering this bug was addressed back in 2004. I don't think you need to worry about it.
Thank you. I found a bunch of posts on VW forums from ... long after 2004, so I was wondering if this was still a thing I needed to worry about.

It looks like the infamous unclearable "65535" error can be caused by a lot of different things, including low voltage. I wonder if some people who had this happen for other reasons unfairly blamed VCDS for it.
 
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It looks like the infamous unclearable "65535" error can be caused by a lot of different things, including low voltage. I wonder if some people who had this happen for other reasons unfairly blamed VCDS for it.
Indeed, it can be caused by a number of other things, but early in 2004, we positively identified a a way in which a scan tool could make it happen, and then put code in VCDS to prevent that.

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