2010 2.7tdi A6 allroad CANC

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Hi, just got a chk engine light, quick test with my Vagcom revieled P040D EGR Temp Sensor A Circuit High. Intemittent, erased it, but came back after a few km driving (engine was shut down on purpose, stop at a shop), During next start the warning came back.
No other issues with car, appart from a defect glow plug, has been defect for a few years, but not bothered to replace it before 1 or 2 more fails. As well as the aux heater not starting from time to time (glow plug with flame monitoring issues)

Any advice what adoptation channel to monitor the EGR temp? Wanne see if it can give sny tell tails

Any other tips?

(Can not post autoscan until later tomorrow, but I am owner of original VAGcom, see other posts)
 
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This engine?

Code:
Address 01: Engine (CAN)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F7 910 401 L    HW: 4F0 907 401 E
   Component: 2.7TDI EDC17G004AG  0100  
   Revision: 16H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0125002C191F0928
   Shop #: WSC 00040 218 83826
   VCID: 2C01FA04BA0DFFE712D-8079
Weird! I can't find anything for that ECU. Usually when there's a "Redir Fail!" there's at least some data in German, but I've got nothing. :(

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P040D EGR Temp Sensor A Circuit High. Intemittent
In addition to the sensor FYI : If this continues after replacement could mean that a bad wire is possible too & not just the sensor but another track and with no error sometimes could cause a ref voltage to drop out.
 
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Look at MWB 098.4
Hi, are you sure about engine -> measure block 098 and the 4th. It reads 41,3 deg no change wether engine is running or have been off for a while?

Autoscan below:

Code:
Monday,11,February,2019,13:18:42:27784
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4441.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: WAUZZZ4F8AN014763   License Plate: BR83088
Mileage: 168090km-104446mi   Repair Order: 11 02 2019



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Chassis Type: 4F-AU56 (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 20 34 42 46 4F 52 53 55 56
          5F 62 69 72 76

VIN: WAUZZZ4F8AN014763   Mileage: 168090km-104446miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CAN)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F7 910 401 L    HW: 4F0 907 401 E
   Component: 2.7TDI EDC17G004AG  0100  
   Revision: 16H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0125002C191F0928
   Shop #: WSC 00040 218 83826
   VCID: 2C01FA04BA0DFFE7125-8078

2 Faults Found:
001653 - Cylinder 5 Glow Plug Circuit (Q14) 
               P0675 - 000 - Electrical Fault
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 168075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.11
                    Time: 12:25:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 798 /min
                    Speed: 3.4 km/h
                    Voltage: 12.46 V
                    Temperature: 38.7°C
                    Lambda: 19.5 %
                    Temperature: 9.9°C

001037 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1 
               P040D - 000 - Signal too High - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 168077 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.11
                    Time: 12:30:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1743 /min
                    Speed: 77.3 km/h
                    Voltage: 13.83 V
                    Temperature: 14.4°C
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 716.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 63.9°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1683.0 mbar

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F5 910 156 N    HW: 09L 927 156 C
   Component: AG6 09L 2,7 TDI 140 0020  
   Revision: --H04---    Serial number:        4527863
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 3333E1786733A01F53F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AM    HW: 4F0 614 517 BD
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0100  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0000392
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 6FBB2D084B9BC4FF777-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 D
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602601358408
   Coding: 0000135
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 25170F20D9E7CEAFCDB-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 G
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B    HW: 4F1 820 043 AL
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080  
   Revision: 00000074    Serial number: 00000000646450
   Coding: 0002326
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 1D6727C0F1B7066F95B-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N    HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0013222
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 3431E264623DA7274A5-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H10 0040  
   Coding: 00056595
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003  
   Coding: 01191213
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 Q    HW: 4F0 959 655 G
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0140  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003F90011G35
   Coding: 30314236303630303032554A304C34463053
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 3537DF6065C7BE2F7DB-8060

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3574SRB400008FD48AAS

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3584SRB400008FB0B8CQ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35152RB40299F7IGVRBV

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3526HRB402K0N56B7C6 

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3554NRB400004E1B052X

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3564NRB400004E8110F/

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0530  
   Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 90055091280337
   Coding: 0002242
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 270B0528A3EBDCBFFF7-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 920 933 Q    HW: 4F0 920 933 Q
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H06 0138  
   Revision: 00300000    Serial number: BH0001X69     
   Coding: 0FD76A0302010008010100
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 3537DF606547BE2F7DB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 105 A    HW: 4F0 265 081 AA
   Component: Heizgeraet      H08 0100  
   Revision:        B    Serial number: 09018641      
   Coding: 0000111
   Shop #: WSC 40376 001 1048576
   VCID: 1B6329D8EFA3085F6BF-804E

1 Fault Found:
01412 - Glow-Plug with Flame Monitoring (Q8) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 164
                    Mileage: 167811 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.09
                    Time: 14:56:09

             Freeze Frame:
                        Start
                    Temperature: 46.0°C
                    Temperature: 58.0°C


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 N    HW: 4F0 907 468 G
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H06 0031  
   Revision: MB100028    Serial number: 2800M096090275
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 3A2DCC5C4C595157909-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0107 
   Serial number: 00000000004149089226

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:. 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 857 511 J    HW: 4F0 857 511 G
   Component: FLA           H04 0004  
   Revision: AA001002    
   Coding: 02010464747464545425363E
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 2F3BED08871B84FF377-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4F0-910-553.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 553 D    HW: 4F0 907 553 A
   Component: J197 LUFTFEDER  H17 0030  
   Serial number: 00872000467900
   Coding: 0000220
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 25170F20D9E7CEAFCDB-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101423312 
   Coding: 011F56204040410003
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 46D5A8AC08A125B7E41-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 J    HW: 4F0 907 289 J
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H27 0220  
   Revision: 02200027    Serial number: 01192862040000
   Coding: 0139909
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 313FEB709D2F920F213-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000473287
   Coding: 0001003
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 5EE560CCBC315D77CC1-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101401123 
   Coding: 011F56204440410003
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 45D7AFA035A72EAFEDB-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 0000521
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: 211F1B30CDCF228FB13-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 3FDBBD485B7B747FA77-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 061 K    HW: 4F0 035 061 
   Component: Radio U DAB   H45 0074  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 343G/097525398
   Coding: 010103020100000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 24111224DEDD37A7DA5-8070

1 Fault Found:
02877 - Digital Radio Antenna (R183) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 167801 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.08
                    Time: 18:33:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.60 V


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 666 K    HW: 4E0 035 666 B
   Component: H-BN-EU       H41 0187  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 454GS097510254
   Coding: 010100050002D3EF01002715EF6300030001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 2E05F00C80118DF73C1-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 ED
   Component: EUR 2017  2402 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 
   Serial number: 9356FV091025676     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E    HW: 4F1 919 611 S
   Component: Bedienteil MM  H01 0060 
   Serial number: 00000001345613      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 906 961 A
   Component: CD-Database  1293 

2 Faults Found:
03175 - Invalid Data Set 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 167801 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.08
                    Time: 18:33:44

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.90 V

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 167801 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.08
                    Time: 18:33:48

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101403482 
   Coding: 010E54204040220003
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 43D3B1B83B93109FC3F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 4F0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 383 D    HW: 4F0 907 383 D
   Component: Anhaenger     H08 0080  
   Revision: 2B002002    Serial number: 00000118780530
   Coding: 0103030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 2C01FA04B60DFFE7125-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101403479 
   Coding: 010E54204040220003
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 43D3B1B83B93109FC3F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 283 B    HW: 4L0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H02 0500  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 12330917404034
   Coding: 0011416
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 290F0310B5FFEACFE93-807C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:41, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.2V)-----------
 
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Should be, find the connector, take it apart, use some resistance, etc.
 
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Due to faultfinding on temp sensor, I need a correct map/chart/desciptions of Control module -01- Engine blocks, so that I can check values to what seems more correct.
At the moment block 098.4 seems fixed at 41.3 deg Celsius, and block 099.4 fixed at 224.2 deg Celsius, need to know which sensors these are.

Would very much like to know what the windows/tags in Group 007 (007.1, 007.2, 007.3 and 007.4. various air temps and cooling water, I think, but not 100% sure
Group 033.2 (second tag/window of Group 033)
Group 039.3 (third tag/window of Group 033)
Group 043.2 (second tag/window of Group 043)
All tags/windows in group 046 and 047
Group 061.2 (second tag/window of Group 061)
All tags/windows in group 098 and 099
Group 102.1 and 102.2 (First and second tag/window of Group 102)

Basically I am hunting for all the block regarding engine and exhaust temp sensors,
* Exhaust gas recirculation temperature sensor, -G98, sits in the EGR cooler
* My car has the CANC engine, the 2.7tdi, and as far as I have found out so far it is only the 3.0tdi that has the EGT sender no 1, -G235-, located on the exhaust manifold flange in Turbo.
* Exhaust gas sender no 2, not found any written traces or evidence of this one so far, could it be the Landa Probe, -G39- that sits just before the catalytic converter?
* Exhaust gas temperature sender 3, -G495-, that sits on the front exhaust pipe, just below/after the flange for the catalytic converter
* Exhaust gas temperature sender 4, -G648-, that sits just before/above the particulate filter.

Regards
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Just to close thread, and sorry for not doing so earlier.
001037 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040D - 000 - Signal too High - MIL ON

Replaced the temp sensor -G98- between EGR cooler and EGR valve, used OEM part, as non-original (cheap versions) tend to fail shortly after replacement. Problem solved
See item 6, in target page for hyperlink ->https://audi.7zap.com/en/rdw/audi+a6+allroad+quattro/a6ar/2010-603/1/131-131010/


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Gremling
 
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