VIN registration popup in K line module

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Hello,
just wired another test subject with random Audi A6 C6 engine ECU (CAN) + Audi A6 C5 central locks (K2).
Now I can't open basic settings/output tests because it asks to register "wrong VIN number" while I'm in A6 C5 Central locks if I opened engine ECU in the same vcds session before Central locks. Is it intended? Maybe before vin popup there could be a "IF" is module connected through CAN or K.

Obviously, if I disconnect engine ECU, it doesn't offer VIN registration while in Central locks or not open engine ecu in the same session.
Yes, I know, not standart car. :) Just wanted to check is this cable working.

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Sunday,27,January,2019,12:41:34:44445
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4451.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4F46N0xxxxx   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4F (00 - TESTBOX CAN-K2)
Scan: 01 35
 
VIN: WAUZZZ4F46N0xxxxx   
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Address 01: Engine (BDW)       Labels:. 06E-910-552-BDW.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 552 R    HW: 4F0 907 552 D
   Component: 2.4l V6 MPI         0010  
   Revision: --H17---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 010D0003181F0D18
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 323D184AC825B847589-8066

10 Faults Found:
005155 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 1 
               P1423 - 006 - Insufficient Flow - MIL ON
000370 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 
               P0172 - 007 - System Too Rich - Intermittent
004391 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult) 
               P1127 - 008 - System too Rich - MIL ON
001056 - Catalyst System; Bank 1 
               P0420 - 006 - Efficiency Below Threshold - MIL ON
000291 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) 
               P0123 - 006 - Signal too High
000546 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188) 
               P0222 - 007 - Signal Too Low
001671 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
               P0687 - 007 - Short to Plus
008482 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
               P2122 - 007 - Signal too Low
008487 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 
               P2127 - 007 - Signal too Low
004438 - Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71) 
               P1156 - 007 - Open/Short to Ground
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 D
   Component: Zentralverriegelung D35  
   Coding: 07745
   Shop #: WSC 12345  
   VCID: 2A0D002AE5D5F087E09-4F2E

10 Faults Found:
01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal 
            35-00 -  - 
00955 - Key 1 
            09-10 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed - Intermittent
01559 - Drivers Door 
            58-10 - Can't Lock - Intermittent
01560 - Passenger Door 
            59-00 - Can't Unlock
01561 - Rear left door 
            59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door 
            59-00 - Can't Unlock
01562 - Rear right door 
            60-10 - Won't Safe - Intermittent
01560 - Passenger Door 
            61-00 - Won't De-Safe
01561 - Rear left door 
            61-00 - Won't De-Safe
01562 - Rear right door 
            61-00 - Won't De-Safe

End-(Elapsed Time: 00:16, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 0.0V, udsna)--
 
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Sounds like it's working as designed. The idea is not whether it's CAN or K, it's whether the car knows its VIN. You could even get a popup on a completely K-line car once VCDS has figured out its VIN through the engine or cluster.
 
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Thanks for clarifying, I thought it's for every control module individually.
Got one K-line engine ECU with VIN number in Extra field, but VCDS doesn't understand it's a VIN number.
 
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Now I had similar situation with real car:

A4 B5 MY2000. Engine is K line, no VIN code in it.
A6 C5 ~MY2004 Instrument cluster (retrofitted, all functions work, no problem, some soldering required to make door indicators work) is K line with a A6 C5 VIN code stored in it.

What functions are not VIN-Restricted?
A VIN-Limited interface can do Auto-Scans, Clear DTCs, and look at Measuring Values on an unlimited number of cars. [..] In addition, you can make channel maps on an unlimited number of cars because sending us those maps helps us improve the product.
I wanted to create channel map for 01 Engine (Applications - Controller Channel Map - Both options checked, Output: Pre-Label file) and while VCDS was creating Adaptations, VIN registering popup showed up when Adaptation channel 010 was opened and then map creation process ended. Last lines in channel map file were about A09. Restarting vcds.exe didn't help, but should have tried to replug cable... that would help which I didn't do in the first place.

VIN popup could check if vcds is currently creating channel map or not.

So, I erased wrong VIN codes out of cluster's dump and made complete adaptation channel map from A01 to A99.
Could have saved myself 1 hour if Channel Maps were truly vin unlimited. :rolleyes:
Map files and autoscan sent to support@RT email.

Thanks for reading.
 
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That, on the other hand, sounds like a bug. I will try to gather the necessary control modules to reproduce it, because I haven't seen it happen with recent (UDS) cars.
 
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Fixed in source. It was affecting only the non-UDS adaptation dialog, and as far as I can tell, had been present ever since new generation interfaces were supported. Thanks for reporting the issue!
 
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