New ABS module. How do I code new module?????

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I just bought a replacement ABS module as my original module is on the fritz. Can somebody please help/guide me on how to code new module? I have a log of the original module coding with fault codes. Im a rookie when it comes to vag-com and know nothing except how to read codes with my ross-tech. BTW i have a 2009 GTI and bought a brand new module from Jim Ellis VW in Atlanta for $577. P.S.....I pulled module/pump assembly 4 months ago and sent off to BBA reman and ABS light came back on 300 miles later.
 
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Please post the scan that includes data from the original module, as well as a new scan with the new module installed.

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OK. Here is the latest auto scan of the original ABS module. This scan was performed when the module and cluster where going hay wire. EPC, check engine, steering wheel, ABS, Brake light were all on.

Code:
Monday,17,November,2014,17:45:12:45486
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WVWEV71K29W012483   License Plate: 
Mileage: 158620km-98561mi   Repair Order: 11-17-14



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 65

VIN: WVWEV71K29W012483   Mileage: 158620km/98561miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 1010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels: 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AE    HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
   Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NL82Z
   Coding: 0403010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 69F7524D40C84C562C9-803C

4 Faults Found:
049441 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module 
               U0121 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158583 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:33:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 785 /min
                    Load: 22.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 79.0°C
                    Temperature: 9.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes 
               U1017 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158592 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:47:51

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2886 /min
                    Load: 38.8 %
                    Speed: 124.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0°C
                    Temperature: 10.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes 
               U1017 - 015 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101111
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158592 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:47:51

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2871 /min
                    Load: 32.1 %
                    Speed: 124.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0°C
                    Temperature: 10.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

050197 - Implausible Data Received from ABS Control Module 
               U0415 - 004 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:49:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2440 /min
                    Load: 69.8 %
                    Speed: 255.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 84.0°C
                    Temperature: 9.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0104  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 113B600D492300FC880F06EC921C00413000
   Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
   VCID: 74C93339D70A81BE8FF-8021

10 Faults Found:
00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2056.12.11
                    Time: 00:04:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 1
                    Count: 243
                    Count: 256
                    Count: 89
                    Count: 4275
                    Count: 1
                    Count: 2275
                    Count: 1552

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158595 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 41
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 63232

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 657668 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2002.00.01
                    Time: 00:20:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 769
                    Count: 22
                    Count: 47872
                    Count: 73
                    Count: 6144
                    Count: 24577
                    Count: 104
                    Count: 47906

00538 - Reference Voltage 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158583 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 131
                    Count: 46117
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280

00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158592 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 57
                    Count: 36728
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 64512

01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158612 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 4275
                    Count: 70
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 63232

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158595 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 63232

01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158595 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 4279
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 63232

01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 34
                    Reset counter: 187
                    Mileage: 157446 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16391
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 104
                    Count: 50451
                    Count: 64761
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 256

16352 - Control Module - Electrical Error 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 24
                    Reset counter: 187
                    Mileage: 158583 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 96
                    Count: 46117
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HS    HW: 1K0 820 047 HS
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
   Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7CD91B193F5AC9FEC7F-8029

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008367702
   Coding: 178D8F214004150047140000001400000018770B5C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 71C73A2D6818B496649-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 160508 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0322839
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 334BF0255284C686565-8066

3 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 43712 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:02:25

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 156
                    Mileage: 157356 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:24:17

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 68
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158629 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:15:09


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6K AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0B8KSE  
   Coding: 0013899
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 6CF92B594F3A597E57F-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME2905191DB

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME290336779

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME680C21118

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME6838185BS

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME15574D3FD

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME15575C455

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BP    HW: 1K0 953 549 BP
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0002022
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 8127EAEDD8B82416149-80D4

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

5 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H    HW: 1K6 920 974 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NL82Z
   Coding: 0007204
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3957C20D70E83CD69C9-806C

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158583 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:33:24


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0062  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 130508F2000908
   Coding: E9811F071013020000
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 354FCE3D5CF0D8B6781-8060

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158583 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:33:25

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 48
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 157359 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 04:38:28


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
   Component: Kompass         001 0003  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T3DL103
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: FDDF961DA44040F6701-80A8

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H    HW: 1K6 920 974 H
   Component: IMMO            VDD 2416  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NL82Z
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3957C20D70E83CD69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
   Coding: 0001077
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3851C7094BE225DE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 354FCE3D5CF0D8B6781-8060

1 Fault Found:
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 158570 km
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Voltage: 14.30 V
                    Voltage: 14.10 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 139006885103281B0904058FB0080A04889C00
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 8429E3F9C7AA313E3FF-80D1

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 035 456 B    HW: 1K6 035 456 B
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0006  
   Revision: 00004000    Serial number: 00000008147193
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B7BE8458AB49E461E5-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
   Coding: 0001076
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3957C20D70E83CD69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: F4C9B339970A01BE0FF-80A1

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 8429E3F9C7AA313E3FF-80D1

1 Fault Found:
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 227
                    Mileage: 158597 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:50:26


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I will be installing new module tonight and will post auto scan as soon as I get it installed.
 
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Here are some tips.

Make sure same and correct part #

Same coding should be the result with a copy and paste if that is the case.

Don't shut off ignition at this point and I recommend it be done while engine is running.
Perform broadcast and erase DTC's...........see what's left on installed list for DTC's as a reference save.

Verify coding has been taken in ABS module by ending COM with it and then enter back into the controller showing it still displayed in 0x03-07 showing the coding.
In this case
113B600D492300FC880F06EC921C00413000

If it does..........Immediately preform the adaptions in 0x44- basic settings after clearing DTC and login which is displayed in VCDS menus and wiki here.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist

Then go back to ABS verify again that the Long string is not lost, clear DTC memory and preform all these tests and adaptions basic settings here.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Basic_Setting


When you have multiple faults like this and the ADP is out of bounds........if you turn off the key until all is preformed, the module will jump to all zeros.
 
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wow, seems like alot. This might be over my head. I will try to give it a shot though. I have the same part# that is listed in the auto scan but the last two letters AN. So the original part# is Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD and I bought a 1K0 907 379 AN. I just hoping its an updated unit or so.
 
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When going with used parts and the part numbers DO NOT MATCH UP 100%....



Get the 1K0 907 379 AD.
 
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anybody know the difference between these two part #'s? The AN is the part # that came up when using my vin at the dealer.
 
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if part # it's from Your dealer, then You should be fine with performing basic settings
Prepare to be patient - it's a lot of things to do, sometimes not easy, but it's possible to do. You should not to drive with non-adapted module, because the calibration of the sensors is for YOUR SAFETY.
Don't worry about engine is running or not, You can switch the ignition key as long You need. The ABS unit coding is zeroing, when You physically break the connection between ABS and instrument cluster, because inside the coding it is saved Your VIN No.
 
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Oh boy..............Get the correct part #.

Will it work maybe....most likely it will.

Losing communication for the cluster is not the only reason a module will reset coding to zero, when first being coded.

If the adaption sequence isn't completed the coding will vacate to zero just as if the cluster was removed after the next key cycle.

I have verified this.............
 
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I just verified with VW that the AD part # has not been made since 2009. AN is the new updated part #. So here is my plan of action. Please tell anything else I should add.

1. Swap modules and manually bleed brakes.
2. Connect to ECU and clear codes.
3. Activate/bleed ABS pump.
4. Manually bleed brakes again.
5. Copy and paste this old module coding to new module 113B600D492300FC880F06EC921C00413000
6. Perform the adaption and basic settings.
 
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Yes and no maybe........

That part # is different and requires I believe one of these codings for that VIN #

114b600d092300fc880f06ec901c00413000

113b600d092300fc880f06ec901c00413000

Try the old coding just to see if it will take it.
 
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OK. I will try that code first Jack
 
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Jack, I can see - this is academic discussion with you. I've verified it as well, during more than 10 swaps od ABS controllers, so maybe we have different experience, but the difference between You and me is that You have no luck.
 
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Well that is absolutely true ..............My luck is not so good.
Depends on what else is going on in the car........
Recently it was about a fire in the car..........Customer installed used cluster and key, then had dealer program an incorrect VIN into the Immobilizer block of ecu with the used cluster.

They failed inspection.............for wrong VIN.
Wrong VIN was coded to ABS by dealer.
I had to sort through the paper trail, and reprogrammed everything, because dealer then stated all parts must be changed in the car for new identity......... is what they call it.
Pretty lame and expensive....... I saved that customer a heap of money.

The coding of ABS was and would not stick until all the adaptions were completed, then a key cycle.

I forced it to zero and duplicated many times just to see.

Really this was done to stop swapping used parts by the OEM and no other reason.

My 2009 TDI actually would display a DTC within engine controller that would cause it to fail SMOG if the ABS coding went to zero.

Funny how an SGO flash update was done to the controller to remove that DTC.........when I reported it to the EPA.
 
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Heh, what to do. I'm unlucky today - but this is another story :)
 
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Quick question guys. I got the module in and brakes bleed. I connected to abs module and it showed all zeros for coding. I put in the original coding from original module and it took it. I can disconnect from car and reconnect and the code is still in there. Now my question. How do you know it is the right code or if it will stay? The fact that the module accepted code is my answer im hoping. Im getting ready to do the adaptation and basic settings in a little while
 
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The only way would be to match the PR codes and build data from vehicle manually or using the SVM system that VW-AUDI uses at the dealer.
 
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How do you know it is the right code or if it will stay?
As best I know, the ABS coding for a given car should not change when the correct replacement part is installed. If the coding is wrong, one would expect a 01042 - Control Module; Not Coded or something to that effect to be flagged. Thus, so far, so good.
 
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As best I know, the ABS coding for a given car should not change when the correct replacement part is installed. If the coding is wrong, one would expect a 01042 - Control Module; Not Coded or something to that effect to be flagged. Thus, so far, so good.
I have to disagree...........some controllers will code incorrect attributes and not display a DTC.

The fact remains that an incorrect module or correct module with incorrect settings for sizes of wheels/brakes can in fact be coded wrong for any of the cars in addition to other stupid options.

To know for sure is to verify it.......

To just base it on a prior aforementioned part # and old coding is not advised because the config could be different and that includes old scans.

What if someone tampered it?

I have been experimenting with them for a while and seeing what data it will allow for writes to an off road unit.

My goal is to write Off road VIN configs for upgraded brake sizes, and race controllers, matched to the systems which still need to see a specific chassis or data string from the VIN......... being intertwined with a checksum/byte swap etc...

So far if you know how to calculate the VIN and the option which is selectable as a table stored in the controller......... it seems to take it.
That doesn't mean it is correct!
 
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