Mmi shut down by battery energy management

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The battery definitely shuts things down as it loses power, but if those things are functioning properly, they come back up with the battery manager decided the battery has sufficient power again.

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Hi Jack, just registered to this(Erwin) but all documents seem to be in deutsch!!
 
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How long does the battery take to do this or is this a silly question?
 
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That's interesting jakematic, you definitely know your stuff. The optical loop should be delivered tomorrow hopefully. Sorry, when I said nothing wrong with the amp, I meant fuse. I feel like a right idiot, I'm learning something new on every post
I'm practically the lone VCDS diagnostician on AudiWorld so have seen a few things here and there ;)
Every day we learn something is not a wasted day....

Did you happen to have any water incursion in the boot ?
Have seen Q5/7 amps and some convertibles fail due to that.

07, 47 and 77 are an all or nothing proposition in my experience.
 
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Jack, got it now, had to go into setting to amend to UK. Am I correct in saying you have to purchase a flat rate and then you can print documents, is it possible to save them to you PC as PDF rather than print. I'm guessing this will save time and allow you to get more for your money?
 
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Not that I know of, other than the sound issues previously, everything was working fine until the dead battery?
 
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is it possible to save them to you PC as PDF rather than print. I'm guessing this will save time and allow you to get more for your money?
Yes. Right click on them in the list and click 'save as'.
I'd get every one from all categories for your vehicle (and any other Audi you own) as long as you are in there...

Good to know on the settings - been hearing about that issue a lot lately but didn't know the resolution.
 
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How long do you think it will take to save them all? Just winding which flat rate to purchase
 
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How long do you think it will take to save them all? Just winding which flat rate to purchase
Mine for the D4 total 535.3 MB for 71 files to give you an idea.
 
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Hi guys, very interesting update. All by itself, the mmi has turned itself back on, I am assuming it is the battery manager that has decided that the battery is fully restored. I'm so happy. Now I am left with the no sound issue that I had initially and a different fault code has come up that was not there before. I will post the new codes and optical result
 
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Code:
Wednesday,19,November,2014,13:03:41:61853
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
Data version: 20141022

VIN: WAUZZZ8T08A045085   License Plate: 
Mileage: 169030km-105030mi   Repair Order: 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chassis Type: 8T (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 10 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46
          47 52 53 55 56 57 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8T08A045085   Mileage: 169030km-105030miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAUA)       Labels: 079-907-560-CAU.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 560 C    HW: 8T0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2l V8/4V    H10 0002  
   Revision: 76H10---    
   Coding: 01140003190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B287BB5AE04F161F-806F

2 Faults Found:
001431 - Thermostat for Mapped Engine Cooling (F265) 
               P0597 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 168963 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2008.02.22
                    Time: 21:06:43

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 437 /min
                    Load: 69.8 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 10.0°C
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.922 V

049489 - No Communications with Airbag Control Module 
               U0151 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 169004 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2008.02.23
                    Time: 08:54:27

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 87.0°C
                    Temperature: 72.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

Readiness: 0010 1000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0B6-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 B    HW: 0B6 927 156 
   Component: 0B6 42 FSIRdW H04 0030  
   Revision: --H04---    
   Coding: 001001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01001
   ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
   VCID: 35613B4794B0EB898CD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 S    HW: 8K0 907 379 S
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 124500
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 499947B7E0489F69F85-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AD    HW: 8K0 907 064 AD
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H71 0134  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 051000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 72EBC05BAD5EBCB169F-8027

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: ELVAUDIB8  H35 0039 

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-BFS       H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001086864
   Coding: 00217025002C44440000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B509BDD7E4C3139F-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 8T0-035-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 729 P    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 5170  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 331DP087523647
   Coding: 0025002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 46834C8B31567011157-8013

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8T0 919 609 C
   Component: E0380 BedienteilH08 0100

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000076567

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0123.04.080000000100010025ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010025ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 N    HW: 8T2 820 043 N
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H05 0120  
   Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 0128.03.080237
   Coding: 48060000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D712367A48033C944D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H21 0253  
   Revision: 05021001    Serial number: 00000000034398
   Coding: 260050914014AF211709000300005D5D0F9D434800010141000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A5363D2CEA1DFB-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T2 955 119 C    HW: 8J2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 090408  H11 0040 
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02532C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 G    HW: 8K0 941 531 G
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0070 

1 Fault Found:
03207 - Charisma Switch Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 42
                    Mileage: 169035 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2008.02.19
                    Time: 12:57:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 8T2 035 110 C    HW: 8T2 035 110 C
   Component: MP3-Changer     H42 0390  
   Revision: 00042001    Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8387945
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B551D3F8AF4AD79EA9-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 563 C    HW: 4E0 035 563 
   Component: DAB-Tuner       H41 0830  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: KE1276V8200116
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A62012B3-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 B    HW: 8K0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H06 0010  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 75330812600965
   Coding: 000102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 387F32738BA216E197B-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 B    HW: 8K0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H26 0410  
   Serial number: 0038JD154CAW  
   Coding: 30323433363030303030554A305238543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3C772E63B79A3AC1733-8069

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME381171363

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME31351531$

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME632E0D63O

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME66560B37M

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME624C0B3D7

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME662F2203-

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H12 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90315HE5000F2 
   Coding: 000036
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D712367A48033C944D-8068

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 981 C    HW: 8T0 920 981 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H28 0221  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 72026PR48     
   Coding: 2F0F01000A002600010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3C772E63BF9A3AC1733-8069

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 K    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0092  
   Revision: EB302042    Serial number: 4200E084188217
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 499947B7E0489F69F85-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H03 0150 

1 Fault Found:
00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 42
                    Mileage: 169035 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2008.02.19
                    Time: 12:58:05


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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R199)       Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 D    HW: 4E0 035 785 
   Component: SG ext.Player H15 0830  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2959E7374008BF69185-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001086403
   Coding: 00397B25002C44440000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B509BDD7E4C3139F-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 E    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
   Component: MNS ECE         H51 1050  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 333ES087564354
   Shop #: WSC 00483 483 54238
   VCID: 306F0A53A3D2CEA1DFB-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793     HW: 8K0 959 793 
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: –p
   Coding: 011C12225E012201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7DF1E367E400F3C904D-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AD    HW: 8K0 907 064 AD
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H71 0134  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0110741585    
   Coding: 011B0E8200390481003000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 72EBC05BAD5EBCB169F-8027

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792     HW: 8K0 959 792 
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: y
   Coding: 011C12225E012201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7CF7EE63FF1AFAC1333-8029

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 D    HW: 8K0 907 801 D
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H04 0050  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000022044
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A5363D2CEA1DFB-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8T0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 8H0 907 357 A    HW: 8H0 907 357 
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000017
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A53A3D2CEA1DFB-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul links H07 0004

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH07 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 L
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 336ER087557150
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2E53142BB9E6D851CD7-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 D    HW: 4E0 919 148 
   Component: R78 TVHybridDVB     0440  
   Revision: R0H06000    Serial number: 76300801492301
   Coding: 0000203
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A62012B3-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4F1-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 336 C    HW: 4F1 862 335 
   Component: BTA             H11 0960  
   Revision: 00H11000    Serial number: 00000007572909
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A62012B3-8071

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:55)--------------------------
 
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So I am now attempting to diagnose what the issue is with the sound. I have carried out another optical test and results are different from before. Here are the results.

http://s9.postimg.org/sn63qo3pr/optical.jpg

I have now recieved my optical loop and have tried to use it in place of the amp and stuff. Could someone advise on what is supposed to happen when I plug it in place of something?
 
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It's supposed to close the circle if one device isn't able to carry optics.

To me it seems like your amp is bad, but i think it needs further investigation.
 
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I am confused as I thought that if I unplugged the optical cable out of say the radio as an example and replaced it with the optical loop test cable and carried out an optical test, if the radio was what caused a break, the results would mean that the optical test would show that it is ok. I may have made this sound confusing but could someone give me a step by step guide on how to test the amp?
 
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You would get an optic error on the device you have it looped out, the loop cable is there to bypass a dead / faulty module. The fault on your MMI system is the dead AMP, it's not showing up in your VCDS scan and it's showing electric & optic error in your bus scan. Check the fuse for the AMP and see if you getting power at the harness, if you are getting power and then your AMP will most likely need replacing. You should be able to find a used one on ebay for a lot less than the dealer prices, but you will need to have component protection removed which can only be done at dealers or garages that have a licensed version of VAS.
 
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Thanks B5NUT for your reply, please excuse the fact that I am not very tech savy but a quick learner. I was previously advised to check the sound system module fuse which was in the right hand compartment of the boot and that was fine. Is this the same fuse for the amp or is it somewhere else?
 
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Sound system or the amp(lifier) is the same thing.
 
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Thanks golfi_vend. Can you advise of a good tool I can use to test the power to the harness? Would it be one of these electrical pen testers? If I am to buy one, I would like to get a recommended one than just a random device
 
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If you just want to test volatage to amp pins, multimeter does also work, or any pen light tester.

But for correct testing you would want to put a load on the wire to see the wire integrity.
 
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