Mmi shut down by battery energy management

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Ok, what is the part?
 
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Thanks guys, I have just purchased online. Do you know the location of where I need to plug it in?
 
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In place of whichever module is suspect.
Exactly.

You unplug the fibre optics from the module and plug them into that loop-back connector.
It completes the optical 'circuit' and will let the other modules talk.

When you do this it is recommended you unplug the copper cables for the CANbus and power as well.
This will eliminate any communication problems there from propagating to other modules.

The dilemma in all this is, if it alls works after using the loop-back, you'll likely need to replace the module you took out of the loop...
 
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The dilemma in all this is, if it alls works after using the loop-back, you'll likely need to replace the module you took out of the loop...
Before I spent the money replacing a module, I'd check the obvious stuff first, like: Is it getting power? And if not why?

I give even money odds the problem here is a blown fuse for the 47-Sound System module. ;-)

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Before I spent the money replacing a module, I'd check the obvious stuff first, like: Is it getting power? And if not why?
Agreed - additional diagnostics are necessary after we see what the loop-back shows.

Until then we don't have an Auto-Scan prior to the event to know that it was working, or know if any jump starts were attempted. [he says with cold clinical analyses]
Hopefully a power cycle will revive it, or it's something simple :)

Otherwise it's a new module and coding....
 
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What is a power cyle and how is it carried out?
 
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I think you will get the MOST out of this thread by checking WD and FUSES!

Get it.............? MOST :p

Seriously check them.
 
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Thanks Jack, What is WD and do you know where the fuse for the 47 sound system module is located?
 
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Your fuse should be located in:
In luggage compartment, behind side trim on right
Fuse carrier 3(from left to right), fuse4 (from bottom to top).

Fuse is rated 30A.


PS. Slide your mouse to WD and new text should come up with definition to WD - Wiring Diagram.
 
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Ok here we go. I found the fuse and checked it. It was good. When I plugged the fuse back in the sat nav DVD player in the left rear arch lit up so I pressed eject to see if it would eject the disc and it did. I then put it back in and it slid in. The red light went off after a short while. I then tried the mmi inside the car but same story, start up screen for about 15 seconds then turns itself off. I went back to the DVD player for sat nav in the boot and the light was off. I pressed the eject button and the light came on and it ejected disc as before. There is definitely nothing wrong with the amp and the power seems to be going to the units. Just for reference, I have b&o amp, tv tuner, sat nav DVD player and freeview box all in the same compartment. They are all oem and came with the car. Would I be right for thinking they are all running off the same control unit and power and fuse?
 
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The MMI behaviour is just a symptom of the problem.

The light off on the navi unit indicates it is not communicating properly - it should be on at all times even when the vehicle is off.
You would have to look in the handbook or at the WD to see how the fuse arrangement is.

There is definitely nothing wrong with the amp
We know this how ??

What does a new optical diagnostic and Auto-Scan show ?
 
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That's interesting jakematic, you definitely know your stuff. The optical loop should be delivered tomorrow hopefully. Sorry, when I said nothing wrong with the amp, I meant fuse. I feel like a right idiot, I'm learning something new on every post
 
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What do you think about my suggestion initially of the battery management shutting it down?
 
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Just to add, previously had some sound issues where the sound would play about intermittently but sat nav mmi and stuff was fine. Here is a previous scan

Code:
Chassis Type: 8T (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 10 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46
          47 52 53 55 56 57 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8T08A045085   Mileage: 163940km/101867miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAUA)       Labels: 079-907-560-CAU.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 560 C    HW: 8T0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2l V8/4V    H10 0002  
   Revision: 76H10---    
   Coding: 01140003190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B287BB5AE04CE953-806F

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0B6-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 B    HW: 0B6 927 156 
   Component: 0B6 42 FSIRdW H04 0030  
   Revision: --H04---    
   Coding: 001001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01001
   ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
   VCID: 35613B4794B0EBB6781-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 S    HW: 8K0 907 379 S
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 124500
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 499947B7E0489F560C9-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AD    HW: 8K0 907 064 AD
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H71 0134  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 051000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 72EBC05BAD5EBC8E9D3-8027

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: ELVAUDIB8  H35 0039 

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-BFS       H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001086864
   Coding: 00217025002C44440000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B509BDD7E4C0ECD3-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 8T0-035-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 729 P    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 5170  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 331DP087523647
   Coding: 0025002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 46834C8B3156702EE1B-8013

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8T0 919 609 C
   Component: E0380 BedienteilH08 0100

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000076567

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0123.04.080000000100010025ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010025ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 N    HW: 8T2 820 043 N
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H05 0120  
   Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 0128.03.080237
   Coding: 48060000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D712367A48033F6B01-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H21 0253  
   Revision: 05021001    Serial number: 00000000034398
   Coding: 260050914014AF010009000300005D5D0F1D438800010141000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A5363D2CE9E2B7-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T2 955 119 C    HW: 8J2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 090408  H11 0040 
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02532C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 G    HW: 8K0 941 531 G
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0070 

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 8T2 035 110 C    HW: 8T2 035 110 C
   Component: MP3-Changer     H42 0390  
   Revision: 00042001    Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8387945
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B551D3F8AF4AD461E5-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 563 C    HW: 4E0 035 563 
   Component: DAB-Tuner       H41 0830  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: KE1276V8200116
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A623EDFF-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 B    HW: 8K0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H06 0010  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 75330812600965
   Coding: 000102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 387F32738BA216DE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 B    HW: 8K0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H26 0410  
   Serial number: 0038JD154CAW  
   Coding: 30323433363030303030554A305238543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3C772E63B79A3AFE87F-8069

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME381171363

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME31351531$

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME632E0D63O

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME66560B37M

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME624C0B3D7

   Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME662F2203-

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H12 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90315HE5000F2 
   Coding: 000036
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3D712367A48033F6B01-8068

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 981 C    HW: 8T0 920 981 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H28 0221  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 72026PR48     
   Coding: 2F0701000A002600010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3C772E63BF9A3AFE87F-8069

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 K    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0092  
   Revision: EB302042    Serial number: 4200E084188217
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 499947B7E0489F560C9-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H03 0150 

1 Fault Found:
00463 - Control Module for Digital Sound Package (J525) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 143
                    Mileage: 163424 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.07.26
                    Time: 07:29:41


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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R199)       Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 D    HW: 4E0 035 785 
   Component: SG ext.Player H15 0830  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2959E7374008BF56EC9-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001086403
   Coding: 00397B25002C44440000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 428B509BDD7E4C0ECD3-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 E    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
   Component: MNS ECE         H51 1050  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 333ES087564354
   Shop #: WSC 00483 483 54238
   VCID: 306F0A53A3D2CE9E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793     HW: 8K0 959 793 
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: –p
   Coding: 011C12225E012201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: FDF16367640073F6701-80A8

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AD    HW: 8K0 907 064 AD
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H71 0134  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0110741585    
   Coding: 011B0E8200390481003000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 72EBC05BAD5EBC8E9D3-8027

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792     HW: 8K0 959 792 
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: y
   Coding: 011C12225E012201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: FCF76E637F1A7AFE47F-80A9

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 D    HW: 8K0 907 801 D
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H04 0050  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000022044
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A5363D2CE9E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 8T0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 8H0 907 357 A    HW: 8H0 907 357 
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000017
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 306F0A53A3D2CE9E2B7-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul links H07 0004

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH07 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 L
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 336ER087557150
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2E53142BB9E6D86E39B-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 D    HW: 4E0 919 148 
   Component: R78 TVHybridDVB     0440  
   Revision: R0H06000    Serial number: 76300801492301
   Coding: 0000203
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A623EDFF-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4F1-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 336 C    HW: 4F1 862 335 
   Component: BTA             H11 0960  
   Revision: 00H11000    Serial number: 00000007572909
   Coding: 0010021
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447F603E72A623EDFF-8071

No fault code found.

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Even then you had: "47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100"

I'm changing the odds now. I'm starting to think your 47-Sound System module really is bad.

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I can see why you are thinking that but canwe dismiss the battery shutting things down when it loses power?
 
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