2008 Octavia II coding seat air bags

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Aaron

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Hi as per title I have changed the seats for later VRS seats and I think I need to code the airbags as I cannot clear the fault..

Full scan as follows..

I am aware of the other issues ,parts are on order ..

Code:
Wednesday,02,January,2019,15:04:36:18685
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: TMBJS21Z182129744   License Plate: NX08 WTF
Mileage: 406370km-252506mi   Repair Order: NONE



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Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: TMBJS21Z182129744   Mileage: 406370km-252506miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LB    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC  000SG  9251  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: SKZ7Z0H4730567
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 6A8ECB11507B6687201-803E

4 Faults Found:
005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
               P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 403672 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:18:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Speed: 4.0 km/h
                    Load: 2.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.52 V
                    Bin. Bits: 11000100
                    Temperature: 15.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

000257 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0101 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 40
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 403718 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:06:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1680 /min
                    Speed: 79.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 20.7°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1101.6 mbar
                    Mass Flow: 48.36 g/s
                    (no units): 0.50
                    Temperature: 61.2°C

000564 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
               P0234 - 000 - Limit Exceeded (Overboost Condition) - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 404364 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 13:20:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3150 /min
                    Speed: 145.0 km/h
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.44 V
                    Bin. Bits: 11000100
                    Absolute Pres.: 2029.8 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 2499.0 mbar

005746 - Coolant Fan Control 1 
               P1672 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 406254 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:08:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 798 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 11000000
                    Temperature: 46.8°C
                    Duty Cycle: 9.7 %

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3FD84A457B79332FA7F-806A

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 820 047 K    HW: 1Z0 820 047 K
   Component: Climatic PQ35   140 0909  
   Revision: 00140009    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3B203E556F612F0F8B7-806E

3 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            000 -  - 
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68) 
            000 -  - 
01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005435421
   Coding: 00880F030004140043110D000000000000087B075C000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 6FB8DA056B9983AF77F-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 060208 022  0601  
   Coding: 00055223
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1SZULZ  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D24304D7175213FB53-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME2B2274504

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2B22350EB

3 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BM    HW: 1K0 953 549 BM
   Component: J0527           051 0100  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 7EA6F7413CF3FA27EC9-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments
Cannot be reached

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0192  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2500K081311092
   Coding: E9801F060002022303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 34321569423FE0774AD-8060

2 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 158
                    Mileage: 405285 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:33:46

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 158
                    Mileage: 405285 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:33:49


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 902 D    HW: 1Z0 920 902 D
   Component: IMMO            VD1 1620  
   Revision: V1620056    Serial number: SKZ7Z0H4730567
   Shop #: WSC 58698 001 1048576
   VCID: 3534286D4945F97F7D3-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 382A21595E570417665-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.068 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
   VCID: 36362F615443F267749-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 CN
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 81D002003F098505095B010004CC
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 7EA6F7413CF3FA27EC9-802A

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 392C245D655D1D1F99B-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:48, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.3V)-----------
Thanks in advance for any help you can give .. Aaron..
 
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Coding on that airbag module can't be changed. It uses an index-based coding and there is exactly one coding it will accept, the one it already has.

However: All three of your faults are flagged "Intermittent". Have a look at the MVB 005 to see what's really up with those side airbag igniters.

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So it could be the airbags themselves??

Or a power issue?
Could also explain the fans powering up on there own...

MVB???
 
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00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
Intermittent, meaning something was wrong but currently looks to be OK. If an issue is created, such as having the ignition turned on while the seats are out, codes for those airbag will get flagged. Once things are plugged up, the event (fault codes) are still recorded, but the module sees that things seem to be OK, so it changes the status of the fault codes to "Intermittent".

As Uwe suggested, clear the fault codes in the Airbag module and see if they come back.

MVB = Measuring Value Block, that is function 08. To put it another way, 15-08-005. CLICK HERE TO SEE INFO ON UNDERSTANDING THAT!!!!!

When you view live data in 15-08-005, you should see "correct". If you have "too high" or "too low", you have electrical path issues (wiring harness or connectors). You can try wiggle testing on wiring and connectors and see if the live data changes in real time.

It is possible that the airbags themselves have failed and create an upper limmit type fault code, but my experience has been 99% of the time it is an electrical path issue, rarely an pyrotechnic igniter (airbag).

Or a power issue?
Well, the battery was getting weak at some point, the 00532 code. I personally triggered that code many times when having worked on car with the ignition on and the battery got a bit weak. I just cleared it out and forgot about it. Unless you actually have a weak battery right now, then I'd not worry about the 00532 code.

Could also explain the fans powering up on there own...
Coolant fans and Airbag systems don't know of each others existence, totally separate issues.

005746 - Coolant Fan Control 1
P1672 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground
Open or Short to Ground, so you need to first check the electrical paths for the fan (wiring, fuses, ground points). If all that is to factory design, then it would seem the fan itself could be the point of failure.
 
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Thanks so much Jef and uwe for your replies and input.

I will look into the wiring and conectors of both seats ..

I should of stated from the start that this scan was saved after multiple attempts of clearing scan and stored fault results..

And again thanks for your continued patients on this matter..


ps,

Measuring Block Value makes total sence thank you...

I must stress mind that IM not thick lol, just that I find this a little well ok yeah maybe I am thick lol.....
 
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