VW Caddy no start issue

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Hi All.

Got a 2011 VW Caddy Van here with the 1.6TDI engine and the DSG7 Gearbox. It doesn't start.
When you turn the key to start there is no crank. Instead on the dash the message '--p/n' appears, presumably meaning put the vehicle into park or neutral before trying to start which of course it already is.
Sunday,09,December,2018,15:16:57:37606

Code:
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX268376   License Plate: 
Mileage: 237040km-147289mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX268376   Mileage: 237040km-147289miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 FK    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9977  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00254014030500080000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023FK 003012
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
   VCID: 74E25B53DF29C9E433-8020

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 050 R    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     403 9060  
   Revision: 00040034    Serial number: CU501101165767
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 51771 001 1048576
   VCID: 387AAF634BC16D84DF-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BD    HW: 1K0 907 379 BD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 633C400D09280302C60E02EB901FC081300000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 75E46657DC53D0EC04-8020

5 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.17
                    Time: 00:02:19

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 8210
                    Count: 41728
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.17
                    Time: 00:01:25

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 8194
                    Count: 43264
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0

01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.17
                    Time: 00:06:16

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 105
                    Count: 43008
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0

01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.17
                    Time: 00:06:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 8195
                    Count: 43008
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 8208
                    Count: 37632
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 512
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 K    HW: 7N0 907 426 K
   Component: AC Manuell    H17 0202  
   Revision: 00012001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3C72B373B7F941A43B-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 937 085     HW: 2K5 937 085 
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   011 1044  
   Revision: BB011001    
   Coding: 401A0A3A8025186B088000829000006403017288524F8160648000000040
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 72EE5D4BAD3DC7D421-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 07011  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

1 Fault Found:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.01
                    Time: 00:06:26

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.50 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00Z H06 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL003S5SJ
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000305A
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3564A65794D390ECC4-8060

3 Faults Found:
9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
          B1000 1B [137] - Resistance Too High
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Date: 2018.12.09
                    Time: 00:06:26

9446677 - Redundant signal path for airbag shut-off; passenger side 
          B1025 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Date: 2018.12.09
                    Time: 00:06:25

9445397 - Key switch for deactivation of passenger-side airbag 
          B1020 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Date: 2018.12.09
                    Time: 00:06:25


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AB    HW: 5K0 953 549 
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440KAO000EN
   Coding: 1880060000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 70EA5743AB31F5C4D7-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 965 A    HW: 2K0 920 965 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0421  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 480200
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2D548E377C83D82CBC-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 230111F1000751
   Coding: 357401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 306A974363B1B5C497-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0421  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADE452B8DED0F1499-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 489ADFA33B211D04AF-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 34629B5357A989E4F3-8060

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
            000 -  -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 237043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.01
                    Time: 00:06:23

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 12.6 V
                        DD
                    Temperature: 16.0∞C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00∞
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 4798DC9F363F127CA6-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 156     HW: 5K0 035 156 
   Component: Radio         510 0521  
   Revision: R0510001    Serial number: VWZ5Z1L0445670
   Coding: 0500020001
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 64C22B1367C95964A3-8030

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:17)--------------------------
All help welcomed.

regards, M
 
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Thanks for the link! I will look at the measuring blocks as mentioned asap. From memory it was all fine as that was one of the first things I checked. I was mostly alarmed by the amount of modules with no communication.

Thanks to UWE for tidying up my original post. Wont forget next time. Ive had Ross-tech for some time now but never really used it much further than basic coding and fault scans. Hopefully it can be used to find the current fault but I may just need steering in the right direction to begin with.

Ive added my VCDS verified number now. Hopefully this is enough to get verified?

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Ok, Will get registered properly asap.

I have looked through the thread you linked NZDubNurd.
Just to add I'm getting the P symbol on the instruments (well whatever gear the selector is in appears on the instruments).

The measuring block results are on different numbers but I think I've got the information required.

02-AutoTrans-004 Selector Lever Position (E313) = P
09-Cent. Elec. - 064 Park Neutral (P/N) release = PN Inactive/OFF

So the mechatronics unit is reporting that its in Park. But that signal isn't getting to the Cent.Elec and preventing the start?

Erwin i guess would be the next move for the wiring diagram to confirm this?

regards, M
 
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Your modules with no comms, are low frequency/intermittant - they'll probably not come back after clearing.

Your 2011 Caddy is still very similar electronical archimitecture to the MK5 Golf and 1T1/1T2/1T3 Tourans, so the linked thread probably applies directly to your car, but it doesn't hurt to double check!

I suspect the selector lever position is reported by the lever assembly itself (it is, in the linked thread) - it has hall sensors and magnets. The Mechatronics then tells the J519 CECM that it's in park too... ideally they should match :D

You'll probably find you have a purple/black wire in pin E/7 of the J519 too - you can try the test if from the linked thread - If you're not a betting man, you'll want to check the wiring diagrams first ;) You could also isolate both ends, verifying the colour at the DSG... I suspect that wire will be open circuit though.
 
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