[2005 Touareg] Need help to program a new Key

[TechNorris]

Hi,
I got a new key to associate with my 05 Touareg. I am confused with the instructions for VCDS.

I understand there are specificities related to the car year and model. I would need to help to find the appropriate procedure.

Thanks again.

 

[Jef]

Auto-Scan please.
How did you obtain the PIN for the Immobilizer?

 

[TechNorris]

Before buying the VCDS, I had purchase a VAG401, from it, for the engine section, I retrieved "Immobilizer password", 4 digits code.

Here is the scan:

Thursday,06,December,2018,16:12:26:55476
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64(VMWare)
VCDS Version 18.9.0.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGMM67L75D055257   License Plate: 
Mileage: 197220km-122546mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
          37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77
 
VIN: WVGMM67L75D055257   Mileage: 197220km-122546miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 077-907-560-AXQ.lbl
   Part No SW: 4D0 907 560 DB    HW: 8E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0010  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ3Z0D7284728
   Coding: 0007875
   Shop #: WSC 94713 999 52438
   VCID: 698FBF8C0564690F295-5161

2 Faults Found:
17887 - Brake Boost Vacuum System 
            P1479 - 008 - Mechanical Failure
18080 - Coolant Fan Control 1 
            P1672 - 004 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09D 927 750 AQ
   Component: AL 750 6A           0903  
   Coding: 0004153
   Shop #: WSC 94713 999 59229
   VCID: 7DA7FBDC61ECE5AFF5D-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25     0203  
   Coding: 0014594
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3D273BDC216C25AFB5D-5161

1 Fault Found:
02054 - Control Module for Differential Locks (J647) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 R    HW: 5WK 470 26
   Component: 17 Kessy            6610  
   Revision: 66105312    Serial number: VWZ3Z0D7284728
   Coding: 0131304
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 34311EF81226E4E74A3-5161

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE9F443D0CFFFAF1-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 040 H
   Component: CLIMAtronic R/L   X 3716  
   Coding: 0000030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 353723FC195CFDEF7DD-5161

2 Faults Found:
02193 - Supply Voltage for Regulator for Fresh Air Blower 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L6 937 049 M
   Component:                     3001  
   Coding: 0105695
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 46D5543074BA6677E47-5161

5 Faults Found:
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01498 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Right (M3) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
00060 - Foglight Lamps 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00907 - Intervention load Management 
            000 -  - 
01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 E
   Component: 0C Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0952  
   Coding: 0012355
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 2517F3BCA9FC8D6FCDD-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 E
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3301  
   Coding: 0000232
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 41DF472C5D94414FD15-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 920 881 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 3135  
   Coding: 0005331
   Shop #: WSC 94713 999 59229
   VCID: 392F2FCC3544198F995-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D2E826BE98C76EB-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 879 A
   Component: JCI PathPoint       2200  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 45D7533C49BC6D6FEDD-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BE
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0122  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7F5B01D46BE0F7BFE71-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 157 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 6695B4B0147A4677047-5185

No fault code found.

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Address 32: Differential Locks        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AC 927 771 C
   Component: SG-Quersperre       5020  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 38292AC80E4E008766B-5161

1 Fault Found:
02412 - Differential Lock Rear 
            003 - Mechanical Failure

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
   Part No: 7L0 907 553 F
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3081  
   Coding: 0015521
   Shop #: WSC 94706 999 999999
   VCID: 363524F0045AF6F7747-5161

1 Fault Found:
00311 - Tire Filling Connection 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE9F443D0CFFFAF1-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 7L6-919-887-DVD.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 887 C
   Component:      Navigation     0047  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 94713 999 59229
   VCID: 46D5543074BA6677E47-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 158 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 678BB9B413705F7F3F1-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 959 933 E
   Component: H6 HSG              0201  
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 94713 999 59229
   VCID: 3E253CD02C6A3EB7AC7-4B01

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 -  - 
00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 7L6-035-186-CD.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 186 A
   Component:        Radio        0047  
   Coding: 0014062
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 313F17ECED34D1CF215-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
   Part No: 7L0 955 119 K
   Component: Front Wiper         4027  
   Coding: 0000855
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
   VCID: 3C2136D83A762CA7823-5161

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

No fault code found.

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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L6 919 044 K
   Component: DACHDISPLAY         0538  
   Revision: 00700538    Serial number: 2009289.06    
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3FDB41D42B6037BFA71-5161

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
   Component: 0E Einparkhilfe     1107  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 392F2FCC3544198F995-5161

1 Fault Found:
01629 - Sensor for Parking-Aid; Front Left (G255) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

End----------(Elapsed Time: 08:46, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/13.9V)-----------

 

[Uwe]

Start by testing that PIN code. Go to 05: Acc/Start Auth. and see if it's accepted in the function Security Access.

-Uwe-

 

[Jef]

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 R HW: 5WK 470 26
Component: 17 Kessy 6610
Revision: 66105312 Serial number: VWZ3Z0D7284728

VWZ3Z0D7284728, this is good. A Immob serial number starting out with VWZ should be a pre Immob 4C system, so provided your PIN works you can follow the instructions on our wiki site:

• http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer
• http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_III_Key_Matching_(Kessy)

For those who are playing along at home, VWX serial numbers are going to be a no go with VCDS and would need to go through the dealer network.

 

[TechNorris]

The Pin I have is not working. It's only 4 digits and VCDS says it should be longer.

That mean I have not other option than to go to the dealer to program the key?

 

[jyoung8607]

The Pin I have is not working. It's only 4 digits and VCDS says it should be longer.

That mean I have not other option than to go to the dealer to program the key?

Prefix a zero.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

12345....................or 01234 or 0xxxx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9S7w7sq5d4

 

[TechNorris]

Hi,
Good news is that I was able to use the pin by adding the zero before the 4 digits.

Now, I screwed everything. All my keys are reset from the system. I had to repeat the procedure 4 times because the results were not what was expected. I'd like to explain it by commenting the procedure:


-----8<-------

Immobilizer III Key Matching (Kessy)
This procedure details how to match new keys to VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles with with Immobilizer III, where the immobilizer control module is integrated in a separate immo box. See the separate instructions for models where the immobilizer control module is integrated in instrument cluster or where the immobilizer control module is part of a separate Control Module).

Contents
1 Determining IMMO-ID & VIN
2 Key Matching
Determining IMMO-ID & VIN
[Select]
[05 - Acc/Start Auth.]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Should I do anything with this information?



Key Matching
Prerequisites:
Battery voltage at least 12.0 V. We strongly recommend the use of a battery charger.

After the first try, I connected my charger.

You can match up to 8 keys.
All keys are either new or were adapted to this car (IMMO-ID) before.
I got 1 new and one that was adapted to the car before.

While adapting each key, make sure to place the other keys away from the ignition lock (reader coil). The passenger seat is an adequate place.
If all Keys are new OR the first inserted Key is new, the Ignition will NOT switch ON with this key.
Put the first Key into the ignition Lock, but do NOT switch ON the ignition.
Here, i was not sure if I had to put the new or the already adapted key. In the end, I tried both.

Press and Hold the Brake Pedal for 20 Seconds to wake up the Diagnostic Databus.
OK, but it seems there is no sign to figure if I was successful wakinge up the Diagnostic Databus.

[Select]
[05 - Acc/Start Auth.]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 022.
[Go!]
The value in field 3 must be 1. If value is not 1, the key is not capable of being adapted to Immobilizer.
You can check each key in this manner.
Here, Block 022 is not numbers, it's YES or NO Answers. Field tree of Block 22 is "Key Condition OK", Answer was YES

Select Block 023.
[Go!]
Make sure the shown lock times in field 1, 2, 3 and 4 are 0 (each field represents a time in minutes).
If the lock times are NOT 0:
Do NOT switch off the ignition!
Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the fields 1-4.
[Done, Go Back]
Here, about Locking times, I found out it's not on Block 23 but on the next one, 24. In all my tests, it was always all at 0.


[Sec. Access - 16]
4-digit PIN
Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.
7-digit PIN
[Do it!]
Fine :-p

[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 21 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
The "Stored Value" is the number of keys currently matched.
Enter a "new value" corresponding to the total number of keys to be matched, including any existing keys.
The old keys are automatically being cleared.
[Save]
Here, it used to be showing 3 while only 1 key remain. On my first tries, I put 2 to have my old key and new key. Last try, I entered 4 as if I was just adding one. However, after 2 tries, I tested "Read" after saving the number of keys, and it was NEVER showing the number of keys I had just saved. Is it normal?

[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Repeat the following steps until all Keys have been matched:
Switch Ignition OFF and remove Key, Steering Lock should engage.
Ignition is always already OFF, as it's said to not put to ON at first step.

Insert the next Key and switch Ignition ON.
What does it mean "Next key". Does that mean the fiorst one should be adapted at that point?

The Immobilizer Warning Light will light up for ~2 seconds, wait until it goes out.
I can't figure about any Immobilizer Warning Light that would be an picture icon. During the procedure, I get sometimes a Written message saying IMMOBILZER ACTIVATED. Now it's about the only thing I can get.

Note: The above steps after saving the adaptation, should not exceed 60 seconds withing matching 2 of the keys and having one key in the ignition should not exceed 30 seconds!
i'm not sure if it was at my 3rd or 4rth try, but once, it wrote on the screen IN LEARNING MODE or something like that. I think it was after I remove the key to put the "Next key"

I regret not to pay the damn 75$ at first to code the new key at the dealer.

 

[Uwe]

It's been 12+ years since I did one of these. I remember them being very fiddly.

Should I do anything with this information?

No, since you have an apparently working PIN, it is superfluous. Back in the day, a dealer was able to provide PINs if they were so inclined.

OK, but it seems there is no sign to figure if I was successful wakinge up the Diagnostic Databus.

IIRC, the Instrument Cluster will (partially?) wake up too. But if you can communicate with 05: Acc/Start Auth, it should be good.

Here, it used to be showing 3 while only 1 key remain. On my first tries, I put 2 to have my old key and new key. Last try, I entered 4 as if I was just adding one. However, after 2 tries, I tested "Read" after saving the number of keys, and it was NEVER showing the number of keys I had just saved. Is it normal?

Yeah, I think so, because you haven't actually matched any at that point.

Ignition is always already OFF, as it's said to not put to ON at first step.

You might try turning it on.

Try matching just one key (or the other).

If still no joy, please show us exactly what you have in MVBs 22, 23, and 24 with each key. You can pull up all three of these at the same time and just click [Add to Log] (or grab a screen-shot).

-Uwe-

 

[TechNorris]

No success.

Here is my logs; It's new key followed by old key.

Friday,07,December,2018,14:49:37:55476
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64(VMWare)
VCDS Version 18.9.0.4 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6NZTY112309 License Plate: HACKER
Mileage: 197000 Repair Order: newkey



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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (3D0 909 135 R)

14:41:03 Group 022: Security Status
No Start procedure permitted
No ECM responding
Yes Key condition OK
0.0 Number of adapted keys

14:41:03 Group 023: See Label File text for Block 23-4 decoding
No Authentication OK
No Lockbits set
No Key ID authorized
6.0 Immobilizer status

14:41:03 Group 024: Login Lockout times (all are displayed in minutes)
0.0 Immobilizer minutes
0.0 A-CAN minutes
0.0 Scan protection minutes (key)
0.0 After adaptation minutes

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (3D0 909 135 R)

14:50:09 Group 022: Security Status
No Start procedure permitted
Yes ECM responding
Yes Key condition OK
0.0 Number of adapted keys

14:50:09 Group 023: See Label File text for Block 23-4 decoding
Yes Authentication OK
Yes Lockbits set
No Key ID authorized
6.0 Immobilizer status

14:50:09 Group 024: Login Lockout times (all are displayed in minutes)
0.0 Immobilizer minutes
0.0 A-CAN minutes
0.0 Scan protection minutes (key)
0.0 After adaptation minutes

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (3D0 909 135 R)

14:50:15 Group 022: Security Status
No Start procedure permitted
Yes ECM responding
Yes Key condition OK
0.0 Number of adapted keys

14:50:15 Group 023: See Label File text for Block 23-4 decoding
Yes Authentication OK
Yes Lockbits set
No Key ID authorized
6.0 Immobilizer status

14:50:15 Group 024: Login Lockout times (all are displayed in minutes)
0.0 Immobilizer minutes
0.0 A-CAN minutes
0.0 Scan protection minutes (key)
0.0 After adaptation minutes

 

[Jef]

Try a "Battery Hay-SOOS", simply disconnect the battery cables and touch them together for about 20 seconds, then secure back the battery. Then connect a battery charger. Now try to adapt just 1 key, the original, and see how it does.

 

[Uwe]

No success.
Here is my logs; It's new key followed by old key.

I don't see anything obviously wrong in that data.

Old key has lock bit set -- but this is expected since it was matched to this car.

New key does not have lock bit set, indicating it has never been matched to a car. That's good; it means it can be matched to this car.

I am a bit puzzled why you have "No ECM responding" on the new key, but "Yes" on the old key. Also "No Authentication OK" on the new one and "Yes" on the old one.

But even if there's something wrong with the new one, it should be possible to match the old one again.

-Uwe-

 

[jyoung8607]

No success.

Here is my logs; It's new key followed by old key.

Define failure here. No working keys, or only one, or...?

It's normal for you to have three keys listed from factory. It probably came with two regular keys and a valet key, whether or not you received them.

If you're still having trouble this weekend, I'll go retry it on my Phaeton and take video. The procedure will be identical. I remember there was some very minor divergence from what's in Wiki, but nothing big, and nothing that should cause you that much heartache.

 

[TechNorris]

I just spent another hour on it. Shorting battery cable etc.

No success. At one point, the radio started to work on is own lol.

Is it possible that I do something wrong. Maybe I just do not understand how to handle the key?

Short version of the procedure I do;

1. insert key
2. push brake
3. Enter Security Code
4. Adaptatino to number of key
5. Remove the key.


If I do it with only 1 key, after making the adaptation to 1 save and close the module, the key is supposed to be OK right there?

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

I just spent another hour on it. Shorting battery cable etc.

No success. At one point, the radio started to work on is own lol.

Is it possible that I do something wrong. Maybe I just do not understand how to handle the key?

Short version of the procedure I do;

1. insert key
2. push brake
3. Enter Security Code
4. Adaptatino to number of key
5. Remove the key.


If I do it with only 1 key, after making the adaptation to 1 save and close the module, the key is supposed to be OK right there?​

Thanks.

Yann.

​

License Plate: HACKER

Yeah huh? So where did you dig up this procedure for key process, because wiki doesn't say delete all keys?

Canadians.........

Better call and check your MAC/CP and TP + PIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

Old keys are already locked and should be married first, in some cases only all new keys will be permitted married by Kessy or all old keys in total from a cleared point of all keys & if all keys were erased with the OEM procedure you might need all new keys!

If you sent me Kessy and all keys with valid credentials I can upload them all to the Kessy and Engine ecu making old and new keys ready.

Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (3D0 909 135 R)

14:50:15 Group 022: Security Status
No Start procedure permitted
Yes ECM responding
Yes Key condition OK
0.0 Number of adapted keys <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THIS!

 

[TechNorris]

I don't get what you mean.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

I don't get what you mean.

Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (3D0 909 135 R)

14:50:15 Group 022: Security Status
No Start procedure permitted
Yes ECM responding
Yes Key condition OK
0.0 Number of adapted keys <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THIS!

You cleared all the old existing keys from adaption, correct?

 

[TechNorris]

You cleared all the old existing keys from adaption, correct?

Yes, not intentional. I tried like 10 times. at some point they were all deleted from the system.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Yes, not intentional. I tried like 10 times. at some point they were all deleted from the system.

Never is now is it?

Like I said if you want to send to me please let me know?