2016 GOLF GTE - Voice Control Activation

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Hi,
I've returned to the VAG owners fold after selling my Audi TT in 2014. I now own a GOLF (Mk7) GTE. Dusted off my VCDS interface and set about making some tweaks.
Unfortunately. it's not going too well. I'm unable to run an autoscan, but after clicking around, locking/unlocking the doors, turning the ignition on/off - some modules do appear. The autoscan then ran, but it's incomplete.

I've had the Composition Infotainment system upgraded by the selling dealer to a MIB2 and added SatNav and Car-Play. The Steering Wheel Voice Control button isn't working though - is this something I can activate using VCDS? The Steering Wheel module shows an error and the module is inaccessible.

Here's the best I can get - except a later reading this evening did finally access module 09. Strange.
Oh, and I'm running VCDS on Windows 10 under Parallels v14 on a MacBook Pro.

Code:
Thursday,29,November,2018,17:24:47:05432
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64(Parallels)
VCDS Version 18.9.0.2
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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VIN: WVWZZZAUZGW813882   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5QE)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 23 42 44 51 52 55 5F 75 8C
          A9 C6

VIN: WVWZZZAUZGW813882   Mileage: 20606km-12803miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
23-Brake Booster -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
51-Electric Drive -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
8C-Hybrid Battery -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
C6-Batt. Chrg. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0054  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391603600858
   Coding: 0071051011
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43AB815CCA80E05288-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 S    HW: 5Q0 959 655 S
   Component: AirbagVW20    010 0870  
   Serial number: 003MFR01TZUX
   Coding: 98CCC000002000005C0000CF00C800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 5081BE100BF60BCA05-8005

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34169677B11021640337
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34169676B11021640977
   Coding: 333135

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 902 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 3570000000013110291X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 902 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35800000000890202914
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 502 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3510002B918166C4E265
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 502 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3520002B51EDD3E3811D
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 502 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 35500029918166C5318+
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 954 A    HW: 5G1 920 954 A
   Component: KOMBI         302 6420  
   Coding: 272D1B082FC0260001886A111600030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 21241 003 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2B7BC9FC4210081250-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway
Cannot be reached

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Address 23: Brake Booster
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 51: Electric Drive
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 040116ELJ04272
   Coding: 003F0020DE01048000801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42A58458D59AE95A83-8017

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811     HW: 5Q0 959 811   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000008946122
   Coding: 150000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range
Cannot be reached

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 874 A    HW: 3Q0 035 874 A
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H24 0245  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2T1304654
   Coding: 02730001FF0000005111110100880A001F0209C601200100CF
   Shop #: WSC 21241 003 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3041DE906B366BCA65-8065

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605     HW: 3G0 919 605 
   Component: ABT_Std-2  H43 4064 
   Serial number: VWZ6Z9S0432207      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866     HW: -----------
   Component: ECE1 2018/19  --- 1030 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics
Cannot be reached

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Address 8C: Hybrid Battery (J840)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 915 182 C    HW: 5Q0 915 182 C
   Component: BECM          H05 0752  
   Serial number: TA080058
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BECM09620115Q0915182 006037
   ROD: EV_BECM09620115Q0915182.rod
   VCID: 334BD19C9A2050D218-8067

   Battery Junction Box: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 250 D    HW: 5Q0 915 250 D
   Component: BJB  H27 0240 
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 1: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D1  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731189     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 2: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D2  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731006     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 3: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D3  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2730964     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 4: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D4  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731005     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 5: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D5  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731022     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 6: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D6  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731008     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 7: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D7  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731021     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 8: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D8  H14 0472 
   Serial number: V013C15A2731007     
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound
Cannot be reached

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Address C6: Batt. Chrg.
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:32)--------------------------
 
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Are you sure the ignition was fully ON when you did this scan?

If so, I'm going to suggest trying a real PC without a VM, or another VM like Virtual Box.

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If I remember correctly, the voice control is once again a SWaP function. So if you didn't have before, you ain't gonna get it now. Unless you have your MIB system hacked which I suspect as going to MIB2 and enabling car-play should not be possible at least any official way.
 
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Hi Uwe. Yes, the ignition was on. I don’t possess a PC. Parallels has been reliable for many many years. Do yo think it could be the problem? My results are inconsistent each time I plug/unplug the Micro-Can. I have done the firmware update.
 
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If I remember correctly, the voice control is once again a SWaP function. So if you didn't have before, you ain't gonna get it now. Unless you have your MIB system hacked which I suspect as going to MIB2 and enabling car-play should not be possible at least any official way.
My dealer has told me a softwarepdate/activation is required.... at a cost of £249.

Maybe a stupid question... what’s is SWaP ?
 
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My dealer has told me a softwarepdate/activation is required.... at a cost of £249.

Maybe a stupid question... what’s is SWaP ?
There's an aftermarket option for Carplay but that is when you have factory installed MIB system that supports carplay activation. If you retrofit MIB2 system, it isn't factory installed and there's no knowledge on the factory database about that.
When the dealer try's to activate the Carplay license the factory server will reject it as it only sees that you're going to try to activate carplay to a system that is not supported.
If you can get a deal with the dealer that if the carplay activation does not go through successfully, they will refund the price. Because the code will be obsolete after the initial try, you cannot try it again, it's one time use only.

SWaP = SoftWare as a Product. VAG is selling some of the options as software licenses which need factory connection to be activated. The activation through factory enables FeC = Feature enable Code on the car's gateway which allows a feature to function.
Lot of modules use FeC's to have certain features turned on or off. For example ACC has FeC's for Stop'n'Go and pedestrian recognition. Depending on what you have bought, one or both are enabled. Then MIB system has FeC codes for navigation standard, navigation high, mirrorlink, voice control etc. Gateway has FeC's like MKE (driver fatigue detection), Driver profile etc.
 
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There's an aftermarket option for Carplay but that is when you have factory installed MIB system that supports carplay activation. If you retrofit MIB2 system, it isn't factory installed and there's no knowledge on the factory database about that.
When the dealer try's to activate the Carplay license the factory server will reject it as it only sees that you're going to try to activate carplay to a system that is not supported.
If you can get a deal with the dealer that if the carplay activation does not go through successfully, they will refund the price. Because the code will be obsolete after the initial try, you cannot try it again, it's one time use only.

SWaP = SoftWare as a Product. VAG is selling some of the options as software licenses which need factory connection to be activated. The activation through factory enables FeC = Feature enable Code on the car's gateway which allows a feature to function.
Lot of modules use FeC's to have certain features turned on or off. For example ACC has FeC's for Stop'n'Go and pedestrian recognition. Depending on what you have bought, one or both are enabled. Then MIB system has FeC codes for navigation standard, navigation high, mirrorlink, voice control etc. Gateway has FeC's like MKE (driver fatigue detection), Driver profile etc.
Thank you for the explanation on SWaP.
Regarding Car-Play - I have that installed after my dealer upgraded my MIB unit to add SatNav to the Composition unit, plus they added App-Connect. All units and coding all correctly registered with VW. I was simply trying to add Voice control, but looks like that's also a dealer (chargeable) option too.
 
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