NZ - Touran wants an R32 engine

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Dropping it off for the Cert tomorrow.

Hope that goes OK! It could be road legal by the end of the month, all going well.

I made a pressure bleeder for the brakes/clutch. I think the clutch still has some air in it - it's a bit touchy, but a normal bleed helped a bit. Hopefully the pressure bleed sorts it out - There is a VERY fine line between a quick but gentle launch and burning clutch smell! :eek: The throttle is more responisive than I'd like too - a more exponential rate would be far better - anything more than light feathering results in a slightly hasty departure :D Panicking and pulling out in front of a bus gets lots of lights flashing on the dashboard :D but you get away from the bus fast! :cool:

I'm very glad I did the 4WD too. On a wet surface; it sometimes kicks the traction control in, if you get a bit enthusiastic with the throttle out of a side road etc :thumbs:



Also, was checking the AC pressures on the Bluran 2.0 (N.A. FSI), and noticed a ticking noise at 2500 rpm - decided to investigate the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) cam follower... turns out it was making the noise - the last owner appears to have had a brand new pump fitted, but there was NO cam follower in there! that's a recipe for a rooted camshaft normally, but it was totally OK! I was amazed! It has worn about 1mm off the end of the pump rod though... but I had a spare, from the old R32ran engine ;)

Anyway... I ended up swapping the HPFP, installing a new follower, new thermostat (which meant pulling the alternator and AC compressor for easy access), cleaning tonnes of carbon off the intake valves and intake changeover flaps, swapped the manifold for one I cleaned earlier, replaced the broken dipstick tube and split breather vacuum pipes! I even managed to get to bed the same night! It goes WAY better - slightly better mid range, but massively more top end - over 4500 was a waste of time before. The economy appears to have improved immensly - down to around 10L/100kms... which is OK for where we live. The R32ran is only managing 14.5L/100kms, but it gets you there a LOT faster with much less drama. It's also only being "tested" up and down some nearby roads... I think 2500 RPM in the R32ran pulls as hard as the 2.0 totally tapped out :D :D :D Once I stop testing (OK... but it could happen), it'll get much better.
 
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It sat at the certifiers for 2 days... drove it home this afternoon.

UNcertified.

A little annoying.

While he did make positive comments about how well it went, especially for a "Nana car" and how well the work has been done, he can't certify it as is.



It needs a wheel alignment :thumbs: Hahaha! I knew it did anyway, but I was witing for after the cert so it wouldn't need doing twice if I had to change anything!



It's booked in for tomorrow afternoon!
 
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Well.

It drove OK before. A bit squirelly under hard braking though - the certifier mentioned that too.

Maybe it was related to the 13mm (that's over a 1/2 INCH) of toe out on the rear and 7.5mm front!

There is one rear adjustment that my fuel tank makes a COMPLETE pain in the arse to get to... it didn't need to be touched :cool:

It was also the first time I was around when it was on a hoist since I started the conversion. The certifier had it lifted, but I wasn't there for that.

I've done all the work on axle stands while I lie on my back in my garage. I've discovered I'm too old for that crap!
















Hopefully road legal by the end of the week.

I also REALLY hope Mrs Nurds BMW clutch lasts that long. I reckon one enthusiastic launch would push it over the edge right now! 3 guesses who's going to be lying on his back under a BMW really soon.....
 
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I also REALLY hope Mrs Nurds BMW clutch lasts that long. I reckon one enthusiastic launch would push it over the edge right now! 3 guesses who's going to be lying on his back under a BMW really soon.....
It sounds as though you desperately need something like this:



Just tell Mrs. Nurd that the BMW transmission is too big to come out with the car on axle stands! :D
 
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Uwe, Are you talking about the Porsche, or the hoist??? :D I could handle both!

2 of my neighbours have hoists at home, conveniently.

However, anything that takes longer than a day might tie their hoists up for longer than they'd like, so I only use it for things I know I can get on, fixed and off in a day.

Certifier has the alignment paperwork. He'll send it off today or tomorrow... but it's a short week :mad: So probably no Touraning around until after Easter.


I "adjusted" the Touran rear muffler yesterday - it sounded a bit whooshy after the flap opened. I cut a pipe out, and added a pipe baffle from the A3 muffler.

Of course I did the welding with no shirt on, but was in the shade.

It's Autumn (that's metric for "Fall") here now, so I was slightly less concerned about the sun anyway... but probably should have worn a shirt to protect from the MIG arc:



You can see where the square base of my welding helmet saved my neck :D Just Rugby shorts aren't quite enough protection :cool:
 
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Ummm...



I posted that pic on a Tourans Facebook page on April fools day :D


What really happened this week though:

NZTA Modification Certification plate installed:


Certified (like its owner!), Inspected, and licensed:


As far as I am aware, it's the worlds first functional, legal, VR6 powered, 4motion Touran.
 
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No really exciting developments, just info for posterity.

Mrs Dubnurds BMW has gone to be with a new owner, in a really good home, so we're a 2 Touran family now!...

I was trying to get permission to buy another one to make into a trailer though ;)

I'm still giving the R32ran a bit of a hard time (because it sounds NIIIIICE!), but it's just clicked up to 11.5L/100kms (20.5 USMPG, 24.5 UKMPG), which is pretty respectable for short trips, bendyhilly roads and town driving, with a bit of silly, added at traffic lights when boy-racers show up.

Mrs Dubnurds 2.0 Touran does more country road driving (half her milage is taking the kids to school, in the countryside) and she's managing 10.5L/100kms (22.5USMPG, 27UKMPG).

They BOTH needed the valves replaced on the varaible displacement AC compressors too. Easy job (other than needing to empty and refill the gas!), but the AC works properly now!


I'm finding the R32ran Throttle a bit too sensitive - It's better now the clutch is bedded in, but it's easy to give the clutch a bit of a hard time if you take off enthusiastically. It seemes to be either gentle takeoff, or semi-launch mode! If I accidentally get semi-launch mode, I tend to run with it :D It can be a little difficult to drive smoothly and gently in town. I think some is related to the higher seating position than a Golf, meaning the pedal angle feels different, but it was obviously mapped to feel "sporty" too.

I'm seriously considering pulling the flash from the ECU, and altering the "KFPED" map to be a little more linear, and actually allow more of the pedal to feel functional. The last part of the travel seems to be a bit useless, because max power has already been requested early. It makes the low end torque feel extra amazing, but makes the top feel flat, as more pedal doesn't do anything!

Meh! I might get to it one day!

I did some phaffing with the rear muffler too. It turns out, that the near-straight-through design of the MK5 GTI rear muffler makes it drone like crazy under 2500 RPM, but sounds ear-terrorisingly awesome above that. Totally impossible to live with though! I had to drive 30 minutes each way to Pick-a-part to get another stock NA FSI rear muffler, which we then fitted to get it to an acceptable noise level. I can change them over in 10 minutes though :cool: Handy if I take it to a track day HAHA!


I'm also thinking about "Upgrading" down to 16" steel wheels with Caddy centre caps, to make it a bit industrial looking. I also have my eye on some taller stick on wheel arch mouldings... It already has some 12mm tall ones on, but these new ones are 38mm, which is about the same as the flat area over the arches now... then I might lift it up 15 or 20mm... so it's a little bit offroad-ish. :thumbs: It's current 225/45r17's seem to be continually muddy, from where I park at the bus stop and sportsgrounds anyway.

I also think the way the bonnet line is higher/steeper than a Golf lends itslef to possibly fitting a supercharger on top of the engine :rolleyes: Maybe with a subtle little hump :o
 
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Why not turbocharge it, whilst you're at it? :D
That fuel mileage is way too good anyway. :thumbs:
 
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Why not turbocharge it, whilst you're at it? :D
That fuel mileage is way too good anyway. :thumbs:
Twincharged engine are so unreliable though ;-)


Turns out that I can get 16"s over the front 312mm brakes... but not the calipers for the 310mm rears! I'll hae to get 17" steels from a Mercedes Vito then. Damn.

Glad I didn't click buy now on the 16's on ebay though!!!
 
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"Someone" has been isntalling things they don't really need... again.

Installed electric PTC heater. My commute is about 6 Miles, and I leave home about 0520. In the interests of fuel economy and perceived engine life, I drive in with the heater set to cold, so all the engine heat isn't taken away by the cabin heater :D Now I have a PTC heater, it'll require less flow over the heater matrix and I can warm the car while not sacrificing anywhere near as much engine warmness!

Well... It sounds good anyway!

So... I installed the heater and coded the requires modules.

While doing so, I enabled the extended CAN in my updated Gateway...

Extended CAN Enabled:
Code:
Thursday,19,July,2018,22:47:27:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 123 12345 045678

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   License Plate: 
Mileage: 125670km-78087mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   Mileage: 125670km-78087miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A1AE6EBCA5E3EC24-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D421-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C1499-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D07010004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C1459-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3ECC4-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E2016388F40D-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4316  
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682  
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 200917F1001094
   Coding: 358003
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 7BF5D8D6FA41D59C72-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A1AE6EBCA5E3EC24-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4316  
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000765
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 366309E241E3C8F4CD-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDAE4F3-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F008405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 12345 678 910111
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE78C60-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 -  - 

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 377D04E646E931FCD6-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5515  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6290453
   Coding: 16000400040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 46837922F10358745D-8012

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 135
                    Mileage: 125670 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:41:31


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4D4E1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51268EB4B58B2CBC-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:57)--------------------------
Extended CAN Disabled:

Code:
Thursday,19,July,2018,22:50:25:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 123 12345 045678

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   License Plate: 
Mileage: 125670km-78087mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   Mileage: 125670km-78087miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 CD    HW:             
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    7802  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3138758
   Coding: 0000172
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993CEE-801A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D421-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C1499-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D07010004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C1459-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3ECC4-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E2016388F40D-8022

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4316  
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682  
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 200917F1001094
   Coding: 358003
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 7BF5D8D6FA41D59C72-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 
   Component: HALDEX 4Motion      0101  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C1499-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4316  
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000765
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 366309E241E3C8F4CD-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDAE4F3-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F008405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 12345 678 910111
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE78C60-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 -  - 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 377D04E646E931FCD6-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5515  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6290453
   Coding: 16000400040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 46837922F10358745D-8012

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 135
                    Mileage: 125670 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:41:31


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4D4E1-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCEA-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51268EB4B58B2CBC-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:55)--------------------------
Earlier in the thread, I was bemoaning the existance of the "61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010" in the installation list... but with the extended CAN enabled... it's gone!

However I end up with:

Code:
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A1AE6EBCA5E3EC24-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred
(and similar for the Haldex 4WD too)

I thought it would be nice to leave the Batt. Reg error gone, but then the engine and Haldex bits annoy me :D

I've disabled it again... but it makes me wonder what goodies can be installed with the extended CAN, and whether I should really jjust leave it alone and live with it, one way or the other :thumbs:
 
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What happens if you go directly to the 01-Engine or 22-AWD?

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Arrrrrrgh! :banghead:

This Gateway thing is weird!

Please don't think I'm expecting a solution - the cars is obviously FOD: the Gateway is a decade newer than the car, and the drivetrain is obviously a bit different. There are no actual problems resulting from this.

SO this morning, I turned the Extended CAN back on, after sleeping all night. It scans the Engine and Haldex as normal!

Code:
Friday,20,July,2018,09:06:55:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   License Plate: R32RAN EXTENDED CAN TOMORROW
Mileage: 125670km-78087mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   Mileage: 125670km-78087miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 CD    HW:             
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    7802  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3138758
   Coding: 0000172
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993CED-801A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D422-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C149A-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D07010004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C145A-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3ECC7-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E2016388F40E-8022

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4316  
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCE9-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682  
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 200917F1001094
   Coding: 358003
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 7BF5D8D6FA41D59C71-802E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 
   Component: HALDEX 4Motion      0101  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C149A-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4316  
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCE9-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000765
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 366309E241E3C8F4CE-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDAE4F0-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F008405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 12345 678 910111
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE78C63-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 -  - 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 377D04E646E931FCD5-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5515  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6290453
   Coding: 16000400040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45678
   VCID: 46837922F10358745E-8012

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 135
                    Mileage: 125670 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:41:31


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4D4E2-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDCE9-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51268EB4B58B2CBF-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:47)--------------------------
Notice there is no Battery Reg errors.

Then... while checking DTCs and doing advanced ID's etc...

Code:
Friday,20,July,2018,08:59:54:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:    License Plate: R32RAN EXTENDED CAN



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 01: Engine
Control Module Part Number: 022 906 032 CD
  Component and/or Version: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    7802
           Software Coding: 0000172
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345
                      VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993CED-801A

Misc.
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993CED-801A
       Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
       Readiness: No script available


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 022 906 032 CD    HW:             
  Component and/or Version: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    7802
           Software Coding: 0000172
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 45678
                      VCID: 4FAD5C06DE79993CED-801A
No fault code found.


Readiness: 0000 0000

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 22: AWD
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 554 
  Component and/or Version: HALDEX 4Motion      0101
           Software Coding: 0000001
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
                      VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C149A-803E

Misc.
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C149A-803E
       Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 22: AWD       Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 554 
  Component and/or Version: HALDEX 4Motion      0101
           Software Coding: 0000001
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
                      VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C149A-803E
No fault code found.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Address 61: DTCs cleared
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 61: Battery Regul.       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
  Component and/or Version: Batt.regelung H56 1682
           Software Coding: 00000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 45678
                      VCID: 71E9FAFEA80DAFCCDB-8024
No fault code found.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 61: Battery Regul.
Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 534 
  Component and/or Version: Batt.regelung H56 1682
           Software Coding: 00000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345
                      VCID: 71E9FAFEA80DAFCCDB-8024

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: 200917F1001094
     Identification: SJ8-FST
     Date: 20.09.17
     Manufacturer number: 00F1
     Test stand number: 1094
Flash Status
Misc.
     Hardware number: 7N0 907 530 AN
     Workshop System Name: J840
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 71E9FAFEA80DAFCCDB-8024
       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Gateway Installation List:  7N0 907 530 BL

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Address 46: DTCs cleared
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Address 61: DTCs cleared
The Address 61 seems to come and go when it feels like it, and sometimes it's on the installation list/select module screen and sometimes not!

I'm sure there's some logic to the 61 coming and going, but I don't know what it is yet.

Meh!

I'm going to leave the extended CAN on, and see if anything happens.

Maybe Google what I can use on Extended CAN, then go on eBay :D
 
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I'm running same gw on my 07 golf and no issues at all

Someome please remind to check this issue when i get back from "The land of Führer". - Yes, I'm on holiday... :)
 
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So you're in Austria?

It's still one of the best pranks Austria played in history, besides pretending to have kangaroos. Starting two world wars and blaming Germany. Twice!
 
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