ABS, ESP issues, Help please

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Hello all. I have an Audi A6 3.0Tdi quattro (late 2006).
The car itself is great and a joy to drive, although I am having some weird ABS/ESP issues with it.
Sometimes the car decides to act weird and give me "Break fault, drive to nearest workshop". The ABS and ESP lights will light up, it will go away sometimes by turning the car off and on again. If not it helps to delete the fault codes manually.

I also get, more often that the car doesn't want to start (it cranks!). It says "ESP fault, see owners manual". Here I have to find my faultcodes reader and delete the fault codes then the car starts just fine ...

The car seems normal while driving, it is annoying that the car sometimes doesn't start. Obviously I'd llke it fixed so I have gotten the codes read. At first I got a whole lot of fault codes, after the guy deleted them and rescanned I ended up having two seperate fault codes. One of them is regarding my leftside engine mount, this I am aware on and waiting for the part. The other one is regarding to the ABS. Even though I've been searching for several days I haven't really found any clear bound answers. (I am not all that great with cars, some basic thing I can do myself tho.)

Here are the codes (they are in swedish, the ABS code is basically the "Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller" if I remember correctly from my own cheap scanner that is in english.

Code:
VCDS version: AER 15.7.4 Tändningen Windows 10 x64
Dataversion: 20160803
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]

måndag,29,Oktober,2018,16:43:02:33089

Chassityp: 4F (4F0)
Skanna: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 34 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55
          56 61 62 69 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4F47N063886   Mätarställning: 264200km

00-Givare styrvinkel -- Status: OK 0000
01-Motor -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
02-Automatväxel -- Status: OK 0000
03-Bromselektronik -- Status: OK 0000
05-Behör.kontroll -- Status: OK 0000
07-Kontrollpanel -- Status: OK 0000
08-Klimatanläggning -- Status: OK 0000
09-Elektron. elcentral -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Mediaspelare 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Krockkuddar -- Status: OK 0000
16-Rattelektronik -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instrument -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Startspärr -- Status: OK 0000
34-Nivåreglering -- Status: OK 0000
42-Dörrel. förare -- Status: OK 0000
46-Komfortcentral -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
47-Ljudsystem -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Elektr. centralenh. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Dörrelektr. pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parkeringsbroms -- Status: OK 0000
55-Helljusområde -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Batteriregl. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Dörr vä. bak -- Status: OK 0000
69-Släpvagnsfunktion -- Status: OK 0000
72-Dörr hö bak -- Status: OK 0000
76-Parkeringshjälp -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telefon -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
 
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Adress 01: Motor        Labels: AER\059-907-401-ASB.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 402 D    HW: 4F0 907 401 C
   Komponent: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0020  
   Revision: --H03---    Serienummer:               
   Kodning: 0011372
   Verkstad #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 1E0BE045C93694CE6C-804A

2 Funna fel:
005491 - Magnetventil; vänster för el-hydraulisk motorlagring (N144) 
               P1573 - 001 - avbrott
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 01100001
                    Felprioritet: 0
                    Felfrekvens: 1
                    Reset-räknare: 255
                    Mätarställning: 263522 km
                    Tidsindikering: 0
                    Datum: 2018.10.14
                    Tid: 13:01:20

             frysta data:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Vridmoment: 0.0 Nm
                    Hastighet: 0.0 km/h
                    Spänning: 12.16 V
                    Binära Bitar:        1
                    Binära Bitar:        1
                    Binära Bitar:        1

[B]005715 - Läs av felminnet för 
               P1653 - 001 - ABS-styrdonet - Intermittent fel
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 00100001
                    Felprioritet: 0
                    Felfrekvens: 3
                    Reset-räknare: 255
                    Tidsindikering: 0

             frysta data:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Vridmoment: -195.0 Nm
                    Hastighet: 0.0 km/h
                    Arbetscykel: 1.0 %
                    Spänning: 11.86 V
                    Binära Bitar: 00101000
                    Vridmoment: 0.0 Nm

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
[/B]
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Adress 02: Automatväxel        Labels: AER\09L-927-760.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F2 910 156 F    HW: 09L 927 156 C
   Komponent: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 0030  
   Revision: --H01---    Serienummer:        4238177
   Kodning: 0000001
   Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2867C69D9B725A7E16-807C

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 03: Bromselektronik        Labels: AER\4F0-910-517.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 517 AD    HW: 4F0 614 517 AA
   Komponent: ESP8 quattro    H01 0070  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000000000000
   Kodning: 0000392
   Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 66FB88A551E68C0EE4-8032

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 05: Behör.kontroll        Labels: AER\4F0-910-852.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
   Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0220  
   Revision: 31050601    Serienummer: 10601100554581
   Kodning: 0000131
   Verkstad #: WSC 45031 001 1048576
   VCID: 63FD91B1A2D4F92603-8036

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 131 E
   Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0080

   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 220 D
   Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0054

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 07: Kontrollpanel        Labels: AER\4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 732 S    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Komponent: Interfacebox    H43 5150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 350IR067722518
   Kodning: 0001002
   Verkstad #: WSC 00150 218 72503
   VCID: 335D21F152B429A6B3-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 609 E
   Komponent: Bedienteil MMIC6H02 0060

   Subsystem 2 - Serienummer: 00000000543215

   Subsystem 3 - Serienummer: 0105.10.060000000100011272ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serienummer: 011272ÿ

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 08: Klimatanläggning        Labels: AER\4F0-910-043.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 AC
   Komponent: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH20 0170  
   Revision: 00000031    Serienummer: 00000030160791
   Kodning: 0000278
   Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 5B8DA9519AA4C1E64B-800E

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 09: Elektron. elcentral        Labels: AER\4F0-910-279.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 279 K    HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Komponent: ILM Fahrer      H15 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 4F0907279     
   Kodning: 0012122
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 31512BF9A8A81BB6C1-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F1 910 113 C  Labels: AER\1KX-955-119.CLB
   Komponent: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0210  
   Kodning: 00064784
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4E0 910 557 A  Labels: AER\8K0-955-559.CLB
   Komponent: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090  
   Kodning: 00146221
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335  

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 0E: Mediaspelare 1
Kan ej nås

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Adress 15: Krockkuddar        Labels: AER\4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 655 E    HW: 4F0 959 655 B
   Komponent: 43 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0280  
   Revision: 08H29000    Serienummer: 0037LD0GYBW8  
   Kodning: 0013363
   Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2961C3998078637609-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Serienummer: 6332CSME136C0851/

   Subsystem 2 - Serienummer: 6342CSME1246312D.

   Subsystem 3 - Serienummer: 6352QSME141726716

   Subsystem 4 - Serienummer: 6362QSME125B1A39K

   Subsystem 5 - Serienummer: 63734SME144B117B+

   Subsystem 6 - Serienummer: 63834SME0F343101T

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 16: Rattelektronik        Labels: AER\4F0-910-549.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
   Komponent: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serienummer: 90055062800446
   Kodning: 0002042
   Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 66FB88A551E68C0EE4-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Komponent: Lenkradmodul    H07 0090

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 17: Instrument        Labels: AER\4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 900 C    HW: 4F0 920 901 C
   Komponent: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H12 0120  
   Revision: 00400000    Serienummer: 58U71LT96     
   Kodning: 2081143
   Verkstad #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 2077DEBDF342A23E5E-8074

1 fel funnet:
01314 - Motorstyrdon 
            004 - Ingen signal/förbindelse - Intermittent fel
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 00100100
                    Felprioritet: 2
                    Felfrekvens: 9
                    Reset-räknare: 106
                    Mätarställning: 263851 km
                    Tidsindikering: 0
                    Datum: 2018.10.19
                    Tid: 21:24:18


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Adress 17: Instrument        Labels: AER\4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 900 C    HW: 4F0 920 901 C
   Komponent: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H12 0120  
   Revision: 00400000    Serienummer: 58U71LT96     
   Kodning: 2081143
   Verkstad #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 2077DEBDF342A23E5E-8074

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: AER\4F0-910-468.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 D
   Komponent: Gateway         H11 0070  
   Revision: 11          Serienummer: 13008069150063
   Kodning: EDFE7BC41B1104
   Verkstad #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 2765C5A1966C55061F-8072

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 34: Nivåreglering        Labels: AER\4F0-910-553.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 553 B    HW: 4F0 907 553 A
   Komponent: J197 LUFTFEDER  H17 0020  
   Serienummer: 00628004130300
   Kodning: 0000220
   Verkstad #: WSC 18973 000 1048576
   VCID: 237DD1B1E254B92643-8076

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 42: Dörrel. förare        Labels: AER\4F0-910-793-42.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 793 E
   Komponent: TSG FA          H12 0120  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Kodning: 0003690
   Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 2C6F3A8D8F8A765EF2-8078

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 46: Komfortcentral        Labels: AER\4F0-910-289.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 289 G    HW: 4F0 907 289 G
   Komponent: Komfortgeraet   H22 0170  
   Revision: 01700022    Serienummer: 01021202250000
   Kodning: 0140017
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 1K0 951 605 C
   Komponent: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 177 
   Komponent: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

1 fel funnet:
01403 - Glaskrossningssensorer bak 
            011 - avbrott
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 01101011
                    Felprioritet: 3
                    Felfrekvens: 254
                    Reset-räknare: 67
                    Mätarställning: 138771 km
                    Tidsindikering: 0
                    Datum: 2012.01.14
                    Tid: 23:18:29


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Adress 47: Ljudsystem        Labels: AER\4F0-910-223-AS.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 223 G    HW: 4F0 035 223 
   Komponent: Amp.-ASK        H10 0350  
   Revision: 45S00001    Serienummer: 02609060353307
   Kodning: 0000108
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2273D4B5FD4EB02E48-8076

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 4F: Elektr. centralenh. II        Labels: AER\4F0-910-280.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
   Komponent: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
   Revision:             Serienummer: 00000000297197
   Kodning: 0001103
   Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 5E8BA04589B6D4CE2C-800A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 52: Dörrelektr. pass.        Labels: AER\4F0-910-793-52.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 792 E
   Komponent: TSG BF          H12 0120  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Kodning: 0003690
   Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 2C6F3A8D8F8A765EF2-8078

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 53: Parkeringsbroms        Labels: AER\4F0-910-801.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 801 B    HW: 4F0 907 801 A
   Komponent: EPB  CB4C0060   H04 0060  
   Revision: --H04---    
   Kodning: 0000321
   Verkstad #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: 1F75DD41CE3C9DC667-804A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 55: Helljusområde        Labels: AER\8P0-907-357.lbl
   Artikelnr: 8P0 907 357 F
   Komponent: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serienummer:               
   Kodning: 0000004
   Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 3D4907C964F0EFD655-8068

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 56: Radio        Labels: AER\4E0-910-541.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 H
   Komponent: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 394J1067688218
   Kodning: 0000001
   Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 61: Batteriregl.        Labels: AER\4F0-910-181.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
   Komponent: J0644 BEM       H12 0590  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000000126546
   Verkstad #: WSC 00150 218 86486
   VCID: 237DD1B1E254B92643-8076

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 915 105 D
   Komponent: von VA0  2610060511       
   Kodning: 344630393135313035442056413032363130303630353131
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 384 00290

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 62: Dörr vä. bak        Labels: AER\4F0-910-795.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 E
   Komponent: TSG HL          H21 0050  
   Kodning: 0003114
   Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 69: Släpvagnsfunktion        Labels: AER\4F0-910-383.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 383 B    HW: 4F0 907 383 B
   Komponent: ANHAENGERELEKTR 003 0060  
   Kodning: 0000331
   Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 247FD2ADE75ABE1E3A-8070

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 72: Dörr hö bak        Labels: AER\4F0-910-795.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 794 E
   Komponent: TSG HR          H21 0050  
   Kodning: 0003114
   Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 76: Parkeringshjälp        Labels: AER\4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 283 F    HW: 4F0 919 283 F
   Komponent: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0060  
   Revision: 00H09000    Serienummer: 06230626800660
   Kodning: 0011016
   Verkstad #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 2765C5A1966C55061F-8072

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 77: Telefon        Labels: AER\4E0-910-336.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 4E0 910 336 K    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Komponent: Handyvorb2      H13 0950  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000007585355
   Kodning: 0010990
   Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2A633C95857E686E00-807E

2 Funna fel:
00003 - Styrdon 
            014 - felaktig
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 11101110
                    Felprioritet: 9
                    Felfrekvens: 254
                    Reset-räknare: 255
                    Tidsindikering: 9

02619 - Kommunikationsledning adapterset 
            004 - Ingen signal/förbindelse
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 11110100
                    Felprioritet: 15
                    Felfrekvens: 254
                    Reset-räknare: 238
                    Tidsindikering: 15


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Right now, there is nothing to work from in this scan. Drive it some more, until ABS fault codes come back, then post a fresh scan before any codes have been cleared.

In the meanwhile, please install the current English version of VCDS from this page:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/download/current.php

It will happily coexist with the Swedish version you are currently using (which you should also update):
https://www.vcds.se/vad-ar-vcds/hamta-vcds

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Ok, I'll try to wait then ...
I don't have vagcom myself as it is to expensive for me, therefore I pay a fee for someone else to scan it for me, thus the swedish one :P

I don't know wheter this would add any value or not. This is what I could read with my cheap scanner.
P1647: «Check coding of ECUs in Data Bus powertrain».
P1653: «Please check DTC memory of: ABS ECU». [kanskje abs kontroll modul]
?: «Engine Control Module»
?: «Message for Delay Request».
U0401: «Invalid data from ECM/PCM -A- [kan være abs kontroll modul]
P1881: «Data bus powertrain: missing message from acceleration request

I feel lost as to what the problem might be. Some threads suggest it might be the ECU(or ABS module???) that needs recoding. I haven't really found any guides for this tho. Others suggest changig the whole ABS control module, although I guess that also involves recoding?
 
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Ok, I'll try to wait then ...
I don't have vagcom myself as it is to expensive for me, therefore I pay a fee for someone else to scan it for me, thus the swedish one :P
Please find someone with an up-to-date LEGAL copy of VCDS (18.9.0) and post the scan from that.

Remember the forum is to support VCDS owners, not owners of other diagnostic tools :thanks:
 
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I don't know whether it is legal or up to date.
Regarding your last statement the forum has sections (like this one) where you can write without actually beeing a verified VCDS user. Don't really see as to why they would have this kind of forum if people such as myself, who can't afford VCDS, wasn't allowed to use it? All I am trying to is ask for help, and as the codes are from (legal or illegal) ross tech's vcds I thought it was fine.
 
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All I am trying to is ask for help, and as the codes are from (legal or illegal) ross tech's vcds I thought it was fine.
If it's a LEGAL copy then there is no reason not to be using the latest version as updates are free for life, support will then be offered on this forum.

If it's NOT a LEGAL copy then why would Ross-Tech and its customers support people using cloned rip-offs?

The fact that the version used to make the scan is 3 YEARS out of date strongly suggests that it may be an ILLEGAL copy - so we need to see a scan from an up-to-date version (preferably the English version, which as Uwe says can co-exist with the Swedish version) so we can see whether we should offer support or not.
 
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I completely agree. But I (obviously) didn't know it was a fake.The guy that helped me get the fault codes has a diagnosis company of sorts so I assumed it was real and up to date version he had. As I said further up I just want help and see if anyone else has experienced the same issues I have. I appreciate you making me heads up that it is not up to date, but if you are just interested in nagging about how the forum is for only VCDS users you don't really need to keep commenting as I do see your point. If the admins delete the thread it is absolutely understandable. However, as I said in the part of the message you decided not to quote and respond to I don't really see why they would have a section for people without verified accounts to type in.
 
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I'm confident the scan the OP posted is from a legitimate system. Not sure why its owner hasn't updated the software.

-Uwe-
 
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However, as I said in the part of the message you decided not to quote and respond to I don't really see why they would have a section for people without verified accounts to type in.
There are lots of people who own legitimate systems who have never registered them with us and thus are not yet eligible to be Verified users.

But in the end, this is primarily a forum for customers of Ross-Tech, i.e. people who own a legitimate VCDS system, and it's difficult to help people who can't post follow-up data.

-Uwe-
 
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