Retrofitting TTRS Steering Wheel , Virtual Cockpit, and MIB 2 in 8V S3 PFL

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I am attempting to retrofit a MK3 TTRS steering wheel, with FULL functionality into my Pre Face Lift, S3 8V. This is just the beginning of what will be a full retrofit of the Virtual Cockpit and MIB2 system with CarPlay enabled.

The updated steering wheel is necessary to have access to the "VIEW" button, to change display settings on the VC.

I will pre-face this by saying that I haven't found another thread with a car in the US, that has been capable of retrofitting the VC, or even attempted. I know there are a few guys in EU that have done this, and now MK7 Active Display retrofits are popping up here in the US as well. I have seen a couple of people that have retrofitted the TTRS wheel into the MQB cars with only partial functions. I am hoping that we can have the wheel work 100%.




My first challenge was to find a MIB2 Unit that could have NAR maps installed, and them work correctly, and also have CarPlay. Sirius and DAB (Digital Radio) aren't really a huge concern of mine. I created a list of part numbers of MIB2 units from US MQB cars with Parts Link. Unfortunately with it only being around for a couple of years so far, the cheapest NAR MIB2 unit I could find was still $4k +. This simply is not an option due to the total cost that the project would come to. After speaking with multiple companies over sea, I ended up working with APG in Poland who specializes in retrofitting MIB/Clusters.

They say they are able to source me a MIB2 unit, with NAR maps installed, CarPlay enabled, Sirius, and DAB. For those not familiar, Audi and VW now uses SwaP codes to unlock these features on cars that wish to upgrade. After researching, even though my S3 came with NAV, it is not the Google Maps style of Nav on the new cars. My VIN also isn't eligible for the CarPlay FEC code due to it not being available during my production or MIB1. It seemed as though my only option was to get an unlocked unit.

And here we are, at the beginning of this long road. I will say again, I am not sure that the VC will work 100% but I want to get it as close as possible and have this serve as the guide to help people who wish to do this in the future.

Parts that have been ordered so far:

-TTRS Steering wheel with airbag and harness
-LCD Instrument Cluster: 8V0-920-790-A
-MIB 2 Unit: 8V1-035-035 (There are multiple part numbers for this, depending on features and it is region specific)
-LCD Trim: 8V0-857-115
-HSD and MOST cables to run from the back of the MIB2 to the LCD
-Adapter harness for Cluster (Original is 18 pin, new cluster is 32 pin)
-Bracket for mounting LCD
-USB port for CarPlay and wiring



While we wait for the VC parts to arrive, the steering wheel needs to be installed.

Plug and play does work with the new steering wheel. The airbag connectors are different, but can easily be swapped. Both airbags are however, 1 stage airbags.

Here is where I ask for the first bit of help. The S3/A3 has a clockspring F350, separate from the the Steering Column Control Module J527. The TTRS using a 1 piece design that houses the clockspring, wiper stalk, and cruise control stalk. Here is the wiring layout for the yellow 12 pin connector on the clockspring from both steering wheels.

S3:

Pin 1:
Pin 2:
Pin 3: Black wire, Ground for N95 Igniter
Pin 4: Green wire, Power for N95 Igniter
Pin 5:
Pin 6:
Pin 7: Brown wire, Ground Connection that also goes to the Horn, and pin 3 of T4 connector on steering wheel.
Pin 8: Blue wire, Power for horn function, constant B+
Pin 9: Purple wire, LIN Bus, goes to Pin 1 of T4 on steering wheel.
Pin 10: White wire, constant B+ for steering wheel, goes to Pin 2 of T4 on steering wheel.
Pin 11: (Has pin on Clockspring, but no wire from steering wheel)
Pin 12:


TTRS:

Pin 1: Gray wire, goes to Pin 2 of T4 connector for Start/Stop and Drive Select Buttons (Unknown Function)
Pin 2: Light gray wire, goes to Pin 1 of T4 connector for Start/Stop and Drive Select Buttons (Unknown Function)
Pin 3: Black wire, Ground for N95 Igniter
Pin 4: Green wire, Power for N95 Igniter
Pin 5:
Pin 6:
Pin 7:
Pin 8: Brown wire, Ground Connection that also goes to the Horn, and pin 3 of T6 connector on steering wheel.
Pin 9: Purple wire, LIN Bus, goes to Pin 1 of T6 on steering wheel.
Pin 10: Red wire, constant B+ for steering wheel, goes to Pin 2 of T6 on steering wheel.
Pin 11: Gray w/ Red Stripe wire, goes to Pin 3 of T4 connector for Start/Stop and Drive Select Buttons
Pin 12:


I was able to get basic functions working on the wheel. 80% of the buttons, the lights, and the horn.
Using the harness from the TTRS wheel:

Move the brown wire from Pin 8 to Pin 7. Its that simple.

This gives you Purple, Red, and Brown on the T6 Connector at the top of the wheel. This provides all the basic functions.

The wheel has a T4 connector with 3 wires for the Start/ Stop and Drive select Buttons. Only 3 wires. The S3 clockspring only has 2 remaining pins though.
Pin 8, and Pin 11. Both of which have B+ when the key is on, and again, I am left with 3 wires for those two buttons.

Are these wires Power, Ground, and LIN?
Signal, signal, and ground?

The wiring diagram is very vague and only has the wires listed as black. No colors are listed. Another fun fact, is the Start/Stop button currently also activates the horn :thumbs:

Here is the new harness once adjusted. Note, there is 1 gray Power wire going to the T4 connector at this time. I am unsure of the purpose of this wire at this time.












And here is a photo of the wheel installed with no airbag. You can see the clockspring with 2 pins on the top row, and 5 on the bottom, as well as the T6 connector above it.





And here is the T4 connector that is simply for the Start / Stop and Drive Select Buttons.








And for reference, here is the wiring diagram for the S3 followed by the diagram for the TTRS. If anyone would like to chime in and help solve this, that would be great. You can see all the black wires that are built within the TTRS wheel in the 3rd and 4th photo.






and the TTRS







There will be more updates as this progresses, and as parts arrive for the MIB and Virtual Cockpit! Any info, help, tips, etc, are greatly appreciated! I look forward to seeing this progress!





and here is an AutoScan just because.

Code:
Thursday,11,October,2018,13:33:26:16731
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2  HEX-NET CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUBFGFF8F1xxxxxx   License Plate: 
Mileage: 69245km-43026mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FF-AU37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 2B 42 44 52 55 5F A9 BB BC
         

VIN: WAUBFGFF8F1xxxxxx   Mileage: 69245km-43026miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 012 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6A MQB  H52 4521  
   Revision: 05852204    Serial number: TFK01405260976
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 1F0E0B4706FC87B2CC-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 L    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
   Component: ESC           H31 0471  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 61574000002972
   Coding: 31FF6B9254230A70017F030341C4698CD62A5080C08296B6024100588608
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_AU37.rod
   VCID: 45C2B92FC4E0BD62A6-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604  
   Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0337502114
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
   VCID: 3A38DAD3BD1EC29ADB-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 8V0-820-043.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 D    HW: 8V0 820 043 D
   Component: AC Automat    H13 0052  
   Revision: 20026000    Serial number: 00000000352798
   Coding: 03000014010000000000000000001400
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008020
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X.rod
   VCID: 3326F7F79A7433D218-8066

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: 8E28C137000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 AC    HW: 5Q0 937 085 AC
   Component: BCM MQBAB HNA H18 0134  
   Serial number: 01011415600179
   Coding: 04151A46C04122F541C04004511807A00800000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
   VCID: 7AB81AD3FD9E029A9B-802E

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 C    HW: 8V1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 140607  042 0585 
   Serial number:         140616050335
   Coding: 0A47F7

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
   Serial number: 22746941            
   Coding: 00006C

   Light switch: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 K    HW: 8V0 941 531 K
   Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
   Serial number: 13 04 2014  00001159

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000030053299

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591     HW: 8V3 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS73.014  H02 0007 
   Serial number:     WOO30038644     
   Coding: 101F00

2 Faults Found:
197644 - Control Circuit for Fuel Tank Flap 
          B1263 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

204290 - Remote key 1 
          B1479 18 [009] - Current Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 69245 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 13:27:30


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
   Component: AirbagVW20    009 0825  
   Serial number: 003GCR00FAC9
   Coding: 9DCCFCC0000000005000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 47DEB327FEECAF7254-8012

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34178311A16061440949
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34178312A16061440726
   Coding: 333135

   Occupant Detection: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y1400015LZP0G
   Coding: 303230

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 106 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35700000000EB8309F0W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 106 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 358000000006B8309F0P
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 406 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3510002B5156EA05B171
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 406 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3520002C3156EA01B1C2
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 004 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3550002C31529DF1C248
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 004 14
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3560002C31529DF2E24C
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 CP    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 18061408490796
   Coding: A218
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_012_AU37.rod
   VCID: 0A584A13AD7E121A8B-805E

1 Fault Found:
227387 - Windshield Wiper/Washer Switch 
          B1149 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 69245 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 13:02:24

                    Operating time: 87989 min
                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.4 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Voltage at switch: 4.98 V
                    Terminal 15 status: active
                    System status: 30
                    FF U Wischer AD value: 230
                    FF U Wish Wash AD value: 229
                    FF U Intervall Poti AD value: 61
                    FF U MFA AD value: 252


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 8V0 920 970 S    HW: 8V0 920 970 S
   Component: KOMBI         H02 4291  
   Coding: 0BED181B2B80D7050201E8001800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4CD48C0BE78A4C2A79-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 T    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2186  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 11061410800771
   Coding: 0101000820085A005B00022C180B00000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011017
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_011_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42C8A233D5CE8A5A83-8016

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8S0 951 523 K    HW: 8S0 951 523 K
   Component: J453 MFL  H01 0002 
   Serial number: 20170220132047 RD128

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D    HW: 0CQ 907 554 D
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7076  
   Serial number: HA1-00013.05.14
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002001
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 46C0BE23F9E6B67AAF-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000152811004
   Coding: 5D00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB.rod
   VCID: 3424F4EB9F7A34EA01-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
   Serial number: 30051402090339
   Coding: 00101F204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3E30D6C3A136EEBAE7-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 F    HW: 3Q0 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  503 5043  
   Coding: 8102
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_010.rod
   VCID: 3522C9EF94002DE236-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
   Serial number: 01061401101471
   Coding: 001017204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3D32D1CFAC30F5A2FE-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
   Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 012A000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB.rod
   VCID: 75A209EFD4806DE2F6-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8V0 035 039 C    HW: 8V0 035 039 B
   Component: MU-H-LNS-US   H44 0403  
   Serial number: A539A0J7505175
   Coding: 01730102FF0A000021220001041A00102F000205010001047E
   Shop #: WSC 29707 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3HBAS 001040
   ROD: EV_MUHig6C3HBAS_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3522C9EF94002DE236-8060

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 T    HW: -----------
   Component: NAR 2016  --- 0048 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 604 C    HW: 8V0 919 604 C
   Component: DU High  H49 0013 
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9EY201511      

   Multimedia Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 S    HW: 8V0 919 614 E
   Component: ControlUnit_H  H64 0766 
   Serial number: C1000022051400020165

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote  --- 3006 
   Serial number: --------------------

3 Faults Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
          B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 54940 km
                    Date: 2018.02.22
                    Time: 13:58:48

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.6 V
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Audio Signal: Not available
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Reception quality: No_signal
                    Satellite radio tuner status-SDARS Flash Regional code: US_Audio_Traffic_Travellink

3084 - GSM antenna 2 
          B1533 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 129
                    Mileage: 54940 km
                    Date: 2018.02.22
                    Time: 13:58:49

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.5 V

6708 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Engine: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 67082 km
                    Date: 2018.08.31
                    Time: 17:50:52

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.6 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled


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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0012  
   Serial number: 140521201825
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 7DB211CFECB035A2BE-8028

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 B    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HFS       020 0025  
   Serial number: 10061404081400
   Coding: 000017204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 40CCA83BDBC2984A95-8014

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 B    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HBFS      020 0025  
   Serial number: 10061403111400
   Coding: 000017204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 40CCA83BDBC2984A95-8014

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:57, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.6V)-----------

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Address 16: DTCs cleared
 
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Nice retrofit!

Did you have drive select on your car before you started the retrofit? Reason I'm asking is that it's a SWAP function in MQB cars and requires you to buy the kit from Audi aftersales, or get someone with tools and skills to hack the FeC into your car. And I'm not exactly sure if it's available for Audi as aftersale part. For VW it is, but not for Skoda or Seat. Audi, don't know for sure.
 
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Nice retrofit!

Did you have drive select on your car before you started the retrofit? Reason I'm asking is that it's a SWAP function in MQB cars and requires you to buy the kit from Audi aftersales, or get someone with tools and skills to hack the FeC into your car. And I'm not exactly sure if it's available for Audi as aftersale part. For VW it is, but not for Skoda or Seat. Audi, don't know for sure.
I do have Drive Select as well as Kessy and Push Button Start. I feel that it has to be possible to get both of these buttons working properly.

Unfortunately the wiring diagram isn't very specific as to what the 3 wires are, that control those two buttons on the wheel.
 
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If someone could attempt to help me figure out what these 3 wires could be, that would be excellent.

They say they are all black, but in fact we have a Gray, White, and Gray/Red Stripe wire. All 3 of them go to the Push Start/Drive Select Buttons.





On the S3, the Push Button start goes via 2 wires straight to J764 Steering Column Electronics, and then it is sent via CAN to the J518 Access Start Module.








On the TTRS, which the wheel is from, there are 2 wires, same color as the Push Button on the S3, that go from the J527 Steering Colum Module/Clockspring, right to the J518 Access Start Module.




 
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you make an amazing job man
i will follow you cause i try to do the same on my AUDI S8 2013
il live in france and if you need some european part just tell me if i can help
 
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you make an amazing job man
i will follow you cause i try to do the same on my AUDI S8 2013
il live in france and if you need some european part just tell me if i can help
Thanks man! I am hoping to make some more progress on this at some point today!

Still waiting on the Virtual Cockpit and MIB2 parts to arrive.
 
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Another thing:
Are you certain that TT SWCM supports DriveSelect input?

One thing i noticed from a TTRS scan is that Byte 1 Bit 6 is enabled on this car. This would set Your coding to: A258
 
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Another thing:
Are you certain that TT SWCM supports DriveSelect input?

One thing i noticed from a TTRS scan is that Byte 1 Bit 6 is enabled on this car. This would set Your coding to: A258
I have reached out to that company to see if they make the adapter harness for a MQB based car.

The TTRS SWCM does support DriveSelect from the steering wheel as this is the car the wheel came from, and there is no other button in the vehicle to toggle this other than the MMI. If I am understanding your question correctly.

I also know that my SWCM in the S3 can support DriveSelect through the steering wheel. You can adjust what you want the * button to do, and I currently have that button set to adjust DriveSelect. Seems silly that one button on the wheel will send the signal, but the dedicated button will not.
 
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Nope, what i meant was does Your S3 SWCM support dedicated button for Drive Select and Start/Stop.

Programming * buttons do do whatever function is most likely stored in BCM/CAN/CLUSTER or MIB. A 2018 TT Coupe also has * button and can be programmed. But this is universal button and it just sends out canbus signal that this button was pressed. Defining function for button is stored somewhere else.

I would suggest trying out the coding.

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My current SWCM does not. I have 7 pins in total. 2 for the airbag, 30, 31, and Lin for the SW, 1 pin for the horn, and 1 unused pin that has constant 15 power.

I was interested if some how I could trigger the * button, by pressing the Drive Select button. Wiring them together somehow.

I do know that I am going to have to run another wire in my clockspring, or have some sort of module that can interpret the signal in the wheel and send it through.

I will adjust my coding to to A258 though and see if we have any changes.

Thanks!
 
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Still waiting on the my cluster and MIB2 to arrive, so I am getting all of the wiring and additional parts sorted out.

I have created a chart for the wiring changes needed to go to the virtual cluster, and a full parts list that is needed.











 
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Updates on the project:

MIB2, Virtual Cluster, CarPlay kit, and all associated wiring has arrived.

The MIB2 was simply plug and play. It was properly coded and prepared for my vehicle, with USA Maps installed, thanks to APG in Poland. This has been one of the most amazing companies I've ever worked with. They have an incredible amount of knowledge, email back within 24 hours or less, and provided updates every step of the process.

The next thing was to install the cluster. There was quite a bit of dash material to remove. You can cut the mounting tabs off the dash where the old cluster mounts if you wish, to make more room. The new cluster bezel will attach directly to the new cluster. The metal bracket that was ordered is attached to the bottom of the new cluster, and the second part is mounted to the dash behind it. It then has 2 screws that go in it backwards, with little rubber caps. This is what the cluster leans up against, while being attached to the top of the steering column.

Here is a photo before any cutting was performed




And here is after the cutting was completed.





This is the metal mounting bracket that goes behind the cluster.





With all of this, I ran the Optic cable and the Infotainment cable from the MIB2 in the glove box, to the back of the cluster. I then connected the adapter to take the instrument cluster harness from an 18 pin to 32 pin, as pictured in previous posts.

The cluster fired up in SAFE mode obviously. You have to use ODIS to remove Component Protection and adapt the vehicle keys.





Everything was then in German and KM.






After going in with VCDS, the mileage has to be set and the Variant Selection has to be set all before the cluster reaches 100km. Once you past that point, the cluster can not be changed. So all of you that want the 1 center dial like on the S3, RS3, S4, etc, it has to be done when the cluster is new.

I coded it to MPH, 12 hour clock, S3 displays, no seat belt warning, etc. I also was able to set it to function with the indirect TPMS. I was worried about this as I believe most of the newer cars with the VC have direct TPMS. All of the basic settings have to be set for the ABS module again after install as well, otherwise the traction control, ABS, Parking Brake, and TPMS lights will remain on.








 
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Another thing to note, is the upper steering column trim is also different between the clusters. You have to cut the two apart and combine the back part of the new one, with the front part of the old one. The new trim, that attaches behind the steering wheel, is curved where it meets the back of the steering wheel. I just reused the old part for this.







 
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I have to say it's quite impressive retrofit. The digital speedo looks absolutely amazing!
 
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I have to say it's quite impressive retrofit. The digital speedo looks absolutely amazing!
Thanks man!

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. Also surprised that it all worked 100%.
 
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What a retrofit very nice! I have also retrofit a lot of this, but never get the dials in middle working. The "variant selection 1" needs to be set to active right when the cluster is new?
 
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To get the 1 center dial like the S3, S4, etc, yes it has to be set when the cluster has less than 100km on it.

Also, if you set the mileage to your cluster to what the vehicle has on it first, then you also can’t change the dials. Even if you haven’t driven anywhere yet.
 
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Ok so first you have to set the dials and then mileage etc?
 
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