No Communication with ABS module - Seat Ibiza 2012

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Hi, I cannot connect to the ABS module in my wife's Ibiza.

Does anybody have any ideas as to why this would be the case?


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Thursday,11,October,2018,12:18:47:25280
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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VIN: VSSZZZ6JZDR082683   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 4B 56

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZDR082683   Mileage: 86310km-53630miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LE    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H33 9978  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002500080000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LE 003011
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
   VCID: 74B1DFB4AE3D03A78AD-8020

2 Faults Found:
7332 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
          P0103 00 [036] - Signal too High
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 17 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 12 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.068 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Engine speed: 0 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                    Battery voltage: 11.4 V
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation-ANG_SP_EGRV[0]: 0.000 %
                    Throttle_actuator_commanded_value-ANG_SP_THR[0]: 96.001 %
                    Air mass: specified value-MAF_SP_MMV: 239.95 mg/stroke
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke)-MAF_MES: 0 mg/stroke

6086 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module 
          U0121 00 [173] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 44
                    Mileage: 86278 km
                    Date: 2018.09.27
                    Time: 10:56:21

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 58 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.311 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Driver request torque-TQI_DRIV_SUB: 0.00 Nm
                    Control Module temperature-TECU: 13 °C

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0060  
   Serial number: 090465LGL0009A
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA5FD9C907159F7EC9-802A

1 Fault Found:
336900 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 00:10:10

                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.10 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.35 V
                    Terminal 15 status: On


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 6J0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 820 045 A    HW: 6J0 820 045 A
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0330  
   Revision: 00 26 08    Serial number: 0000002542340-
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 2411EFF452DDD327DAD-8070

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.03.03
                    Time: 00:10:09


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 195120431
   Coding: 24882BE88861250092200EF06E0B0CC8008043EC608C0040200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: 45D75270B5A7CA2FED3-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 M    HW: 6R0 959 802 M  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3110 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 030000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 P    HW: 6R0 959 801 P  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3110 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10AirbagA0D H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01AXG3T
   Coding: 003044
   Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD614C9C392557001-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400G4UHC4B93O

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB400G4UHC4JOC5

2 Faults Found:
12854016 - Databus 
          U1122 00 [009] - Implausible Message
          [Kombi1 DLC Error]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 81
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 00:10:11

12656896 - Databus 
          U1122 00 [009] - Implausible Message
          [Bremse8 Time Out Error]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 00:10:14


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 904 C    HW: 6J0 920 904 C
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0508  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A00
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 2B0304C833831C5F1B7-807E

1 Fault Found:
12656896 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät für Bremse: keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Date: 2018.10.11
                    Time: 00:10:10


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 022300
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: 70B9D3A4DAA53F876E5-8024

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.03.03
                    Time: 00:10:11


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0508  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC1CCFCF9C557201-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11221
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 2F3B10D80E5B607F37F-807A

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module        Labels: 6J0-959-441.clb
   Part No: 6J0 959 441 
   Component: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D3A4D6A53F876E5-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6J2 035 153 H    HW: 6J2 035 153 H
   Component: Radio         H15 0302  
   Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SEZAZ2M4945439
   Coding: 0503020002
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0304C833031C5F1B7-807E

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.03.03
                    Time: 00:10:20


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:32, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.4V)-----------


thanks
 
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As you can see from the scan - all other modules can't communicate with it either. Start by checking fuses.
 
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I've checked all the fuses for the ABS module. (including the ones at the battery)

Should I be checking other fuses?
 
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Hello OP and welcome to the VCDS forum.

How about just measure for the voltage with aid of WD in RTFB and all inputs at the module plug & to isolate it is a module or a condition in the car?

If Woody only JPPSG, this thread never would of happened.

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot




123 load lights if you dont!



Are you sure the ABS module is not a free recall repair for campaign?
 
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I've had a look over the wiring with a multimeter and the ABS module is getting power to the connector plug.

Still no communication possible via VCDS.


Is it looking like a new module required?
 
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I only checked for voltage. I'm assuming I'll need to check for current also?
 
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when checking power, always load test the wire

check the power on 1 and 25 (permanent +12V) and 28 or 25 (not sure you have ESP9.0i or ESP8.2i).
check GND to be OK on 13 and 38
furthermore, check communications on can powertrain on pins 15 and 26.
it is not often that these modules fail. i'd look for power, GND and and communications first.
 
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I found the issue , it was a broken wire which was a pain in the ass to trace but I got there.


Now the only issue I have is that the travtion control light remains on permanently and the code I have on VCDS points to a Steering Angle Sensor recalibration. I've not had much time so not looked into it a great deal but what I found was a security code i'd need of 40168 and that didn't work.

Anybody any ideas?


Thanks
 
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Code:
  Sunday,28,October,2018,15:20:13:25280
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ6JZDR082683   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 4B 56

VIN: VSSZZZ6JZDR082683   Mileage: 86310km-53630miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LE    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H33 9978  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002500080000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 102 209715
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LE 003011
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
   VCID: 74B1DFB4AE3D03A78AD-8020

No Fault Found

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 130248DB817500B4C82B12EA81D400821400
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 025D896CE4493D17881-8056

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.03.20
                    Time: 00:12:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0007
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x1251
                    Hex Value: 0x1B99
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F00




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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0060  
   Serial number: 090465LGL0009A
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA5FD9C907159F7EC9-802A

1 Fault Found:
1140738 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Date: 2018.10.28
                    Time: 00:12:40

                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.80 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.10 V
                    Terminal 15 status: On


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 6J0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6J0 820 045 A    HW: 6J0 820 045 A
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0330  
   Revision: 00 26 08    Serial number: 0000002542340-
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 2411EFF452DDD327DAD-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 195120431
   Coding: 24882BE88861250092200EF06E0B0CC8008043EC608C0040200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: 45D75270B5A7CA2FED3-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 M    HW: 6R0 959 802 M  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3110 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 030000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 P    HW: 6R0 959 801 P  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3110 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10AirbagA0D H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01AXG3T
   Coding: 003044
   Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD614C9C392557001-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400G4UHC4B93O

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB400G4UHC4JOC5

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6J0 920 904 C    HW: 6J0 920 904 C
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0508  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A00
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 2B0304C833831C5F1B7-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 022300
   Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
   VCID: 70B9D3A4DAA53F876E5-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0508  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC1CCFCF9C557201-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11221
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 2F3B10D80E5B607F37F-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module        Labels: 6J0-959-441.clb
   Part No: 6J0 959 441 
   Component: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D3A4D6A53F876E5-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6J2 035 153 H    HW: 6J2 035 153 H
   Component: Radio         H15 0302  
   Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SEZAZ2M4945439
   Coding: 0503020002
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0304C833031C5F1B7-807E

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 86315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.03.20
                    Time: 00:13:22


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:17, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.3V)-----------
 
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Have you tried driving in parking lot in figure eights and backward or selecting basic settings available or adaption menu's and or does VCDS captions provide any procedures you missed?

I don't see any data in the wiki so you may need SVM unless RT wants to weigh in with more specific data.

Thank you for posting the scan.........

We don't have Seat or Skoda in the USA.........
 
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This one should be pretty standard.

ABS module:
Check that Steering Angle sensor produces plausible values in MVB 005.1

Security Access with 40168, then Basic Settings, Group 060 for the steering angle sensor. I would think you have to move the steering wheel some and then re-center it before doing the Basic Setting.

-Uwe-
 
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That was what I thought too but would think there would be a fault if it was the same but was not sure.
 
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