Retrofitting AWD to Scirocco mk3

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I've recently done a retrofit of AWD from 2010 Golf R to my 2011 Scirocco R. To keep it simple, mechanically it required changing the boot floor, gearbox (DSG) and rear axle (together with Haldex coupling) from Golf to Scirocco. Some work with fuel tank and exhaust pipe also. Wiring was simple, Haldex control unit only requires power, signal from brake pedal and powertrain CAN bus.

With VCDS I've activated AWD on engine ECU and CAN gateway. All the fault codes are gone except one on ABS which leads to ESP not working. Not sure if I need to recode something on ABS control unit.

Any idea if there is some other control unit on powertrain data bus where I need to enable AWD or is just about the coding on ABS control unit?

Code:
Tuesday,04,March,2014,20:08:34:03166
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910





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                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
  Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108
           Software Coding: 743B80F5492400FC2E0E01E8922200413D0800
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00020 790 00000
                      VCID: 76E98FD6C1CB63AEBEF-8023
1 Fault Found:

18055 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1647 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 51184 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2036.14.26
                    Time: 20:07:41

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 29184
                    Count: 197
                    Count: 41216
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
Luckily I have another 2011 Golf R available for comparison. It has the ESP control unit with same part number (1K0 907 379 BE). Just the coding is different. If been searching and found out that part of the ESP coding is the last 5 digits of VIN. Besides those, there are just a few bits that are different between FWD Scirocco and AWD Golf. I still haven't tried coding the ESP to play with those bits (will do this coming weekend). Golf has DCC, Scirocco not. That might also explain some of the differencies on coding.

Any hints for MK60EC1 ABS/ESP coding or will I just go with trial and error? Or am I even able to change the coding on that unit? I've read that it could be something that can only be done with dealer's tools? Basically this is the same situation if I'd try to install a used ABS control unit from FWD car to a AWD car without knowing the original coding... but if I plugged my car to dealer's system I doubt it would offer me the AWD coding anyway ;)

Anyway, I'll post my findings after the weekend, might be interesting for someone :)
 
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This is very interesting, I have the same conversion to do from a mk6 gti to AWD, I have most parts except from the abs unit which I was told I need to replace?! So I'll wait to see what you find before ordering anymore! 😄
 
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Any hints for MK60EC1 ABS/ESP coding or will I just go with trial and error? Or am I even able to change the coding on that unit? I've read that it could be something that can only be done with dealer's tools? Basically this is the same situation if I'd try to install a used ABS control unit from FWD car to a AWD car without knowing the original coding... but if I plugged my car to dealer's system I doubt it would offer me the AWD coding anyway ;)
Right, it most likely wouldn't, because the dealer's tool doesn't have a coding script for these MK60EC1 modules, instead it queries SVM database which simply returns the coding that the car had when it left the factory, with the factory installed equipment. With some approved retrofits, e.g. a trailer hitch installation, it's possible for the dealership to enter an "SVM Code" that tells the SVM server that there's now a trailer hitch on on this car and the SVM server then calculates a new coding for the car (and remembers that the car is supposed to be coded that way from now on).
Unfortunately, this also makes it very hard for anyone to derive a reasonably complete coding chart for these modules. Some people claim to have it figured out; I'm not sure we really do. What should be helpful in your case is that your ABS module still has the coding for your care pre retrofit. Hopefully we'll get the right eyeballs and brain cells on this to find you a solution.

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I tried to change the coding over the weekend without success. I get an error message "coding out of range".


In this case I only tried to alter one of the last bytes to match the Golf coding.

I also accidentally activated the system function test and can't complete it successfully (probably due to the coding issue) so now I have two fault codes active :)


As I told, I've tried to reverse-engineer the coding by comparing the same MY Golf R I also have, here's what I've been able to find out so far. I got a lot of help from a Polish Skoda site:
http://forum.octaviaclub.pl/printview.php?t=64157 (in Polish, use Google translator)

Notes:
Golf has DCC suspension, Scirocco not…
Golf is originally AWD, Scirocco not…
Both are MY2011, same ESP control unit (1K0 907 379 BE)


Code:
BYTE 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
I    --------------------------------------------------------
T    74 3B 80 F5 49 24 00 FC 2E 0E 01 E8 92 22 00 41 3D 08 00
     --------------------------------------------------------
0   | 0  1  0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  0  1  1  0  0
1   | 0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  1  1  0  0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0
2   | 1  0  0  1  0  1  0  1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  1  0  0
3   | 0  1  0  0  1  0  0  1  1  1  0  1  0  0  0  0  1  1  0
4   | 1  1  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  0
5   | 1  1  0  1  0  1  0  1  1  0  0  1  0  1  0  0  1  0  0
6   | 1  0  0  1  1  0  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  0  0
7   | 0  0  1  1  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0


00: 74 = 0111 0100 Scirocco R
    14 = 0001 0100 Golf R

01: 3B = 0011 1011 = ? (same in Scirocco and Golf)

02: 80 = 1000 0000 Brake disc diameter front 345 back 310

03: F5 = VW Scirocco
    0D = VW Golf mk6

04: 49 = 0100 1001 Scirocco R
    09 = 0000 1001 Golf R

05: 24 = 0010 0100 VIN 13. digit = 2

06: 00 = 0000 0000 = Original
    80 = 1000 0000 = 2-step ESP off -switch

07: FC = 1111 1100 VIN 14. digit = 2

08: 2E = 0010 1110 Scirocco R
    28 = 0010 1000 Golf R

09: 0E = 0000 1110 VIN 15. digit = 3

10: 01 = 0000 0001 Brake disc diameter front 345 back 310

11: E8 = 1110 1000 VIN 16. digit = 4

12: 92 = 1001 0010 Scirocco R
    90 = 1001 0000 Golf R

13: 22 = 0010 0010 VIN 17. digit = 9

14: 00 = 0000 0000 = Original
    01 = 0000 0001 = 2-step ESP off -switch

15: 41 = 0100 0001 bit 0~2 = 001 = 1 Engine type = 1.8 TSI/2.0 TFSI/2.0 TSI/3,6 FSI/1.6 TDI/1.9 TDI
                   bit 4 = 0 start-stop not installed
                   bit 6~7 = 01 = LHD

16: 3D = 0011 1101 bit 0 = 1 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) installed
                   bit 2 = 1 = Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPMS/PR-7K6) installed

17: 08 = 0000 1000 Scirocco R bit 3 = 1 = (Extended) Electronic Differential Lock (XDS - PR-UG3/UG4) active/installed
    00 = 0000 0000 Golf R (No XDS on Golf???)


18: 00 = 0000 0000 = ? (the same in Scirocco and Golf R)
Bytes 00 and 08 seem to be the same but bits in reverse order
Bytes 02 and 10 seem to be the same but bits in reverse order
Bytes 04 and 12 seem to be the same but bits in reverse order
Bytes 06 and 14 seem to be the same but bits in reverse order

Bytes 06 and 14 refer to the ESP-off switch. Not sure if's possible to change the behaviour though coding. Originally the switch only disable the traction control. At least in US models it should be possible change the behaviour (according to APR website)
 
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This is very interesting, I have the same conversion to do from a mk6 gti to AWD, I have most parts except from the abs unit which I was told I need to replace?! So I'll wait to see what you find before ordering anymore! ��
I do have one extra ABS unit from the 2010 Golf R that I took my parts (transmission and rear axle) from. It was with DCC suspension. But you'd need to recode it anyway.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...uthkey=!ACzVZLYCtJapI6Y&v=3&ithint=photo,.jpg
 
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Hello Heikki,

I don't know that we will be able to take the original ABS coding and tweak the AWD specific bits but a large part of the VIN is encrypted into the coding as you mentioned. If you could post the pre-retrofit ABS coding with the full VIN from this car and in another clip, the factory coding from the 2011 Golf R comparison car with factory installed AWD and the VIN from that vehicle I'll take a look at it. Wrapping separate
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s would be best so I don't confuse them.

If you want to include Scirocco (or any other Golf based comparison scan clips and VINs feel free to do so - but I think the baseline from the two would be sufficient for now.

-Dana
 
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Scirocco original FWD (pre-retrofit):
VIN: WVWZZZ13ZBV022349
Coding: 743B80F5492400FC2E0E01E8922200413D0800

Golf R with factory AWD:
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZBW298583
Coding: 143B800D092B0002281001EC901C00413D0000

Would be fantastic if you could see what you can find out. As I wrote above I've spend couple of hours with some Polish websites trying to decrypt the coding :) This is what I've found so far in a bit more color coded version. If I'm right, only the bits highlighted in red are different:


Any idea why I wasn't able to change the coding with VCDS? What does this "request out of range" -error mean?

I'm not able to scan the Golf right now as it's being painted 50km from here. Scirocco's scan I already had on the first post. Or would you need the scan of the whole car?
 
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Hi Dana,

Any new information to share to me?
 
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Not yet so we'll get this back to the top.
 
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I could get full scan of both cars tomorrow if that helps.
 
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Here's finally full scans from both cars.

Scirocco:
Code:
Wednesday,02,April,2014,21:53:32:03166
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WVWZZZ13ZBV022349   License Plate: 



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Chassis Type: 13 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 20 22 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52
          55 56 77

VIN: WVWZZZ13ZBV022349   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CDL)       Labels: 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 115 B    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
   Revision: 5BH19---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0403000C1C0F0160
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 2D5B60BAB41D6076001-8078

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 012 N    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2118  
   Revision:    51112    Serial number: 00001003041720
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 1B3FBE62DAA99EC66E5-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 743B80F5492400FC2E0E01E8922200413D0800
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 76E98FD6C1CB63AEB1B-8023

1 Fault Found:
18055 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1647 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Mileage: 51401 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2037.14.05
                    Time: 16:39:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 197
                    Count: 50177
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 EA    HW: 5K0 907 044 EA
   Component: Climatronic   H17 1010  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
   VCID: 6ED9A7B6B19B5B6E79B-803B

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 M    HW: 5K0 937 087 M
   Component: BCM PQ35 H    011 0045  
   Revision: BE011001    
   Coding: 40100A388025E30040080088340048E643758288736D8D60E48000000040
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 3F872AF2AE71E2E6A2D-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K8 955 119 F    HW: 1K8 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 28081  10  0603 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 091110 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0330ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 919 475 L    HW: 1K0 919 475 L
   Component: PARKHILFE     005 1806  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 0 263 004 450 
   Coding: 308101
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 3B7F5EE2BA69FEC68E5-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AE    HW: 1K0 909 605 AE
   Component: 0G AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 003D1D034WRA  
   Coding: 0012359
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 6FE7BAB27E91526672D-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME574177619

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME574154334

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME2C753D16Q

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME2E754B2CZ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 F    HW: 5K0 953 569 H
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   008 0107  
   Revision: FF010E23    Serial number: 20090311200036
   Coding: 1892140000
   Shop #: WSC 06745 128 00802
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS S02006
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 2D5B60BA7C1D6076001-8078

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H06 0010 
   Serial number: ƒ
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 872 B    HW: 1K8 920 872 B
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170F01
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 326173C665233F8E5D3-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 061110F2000866
   Coding: 354000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 306579CE632F0D9E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 857 511 B    HW: 8J0 857 511 C
   Component: FLA           H03 0006  
   Revision: AA002001    
   Coding: 0201856B74745D545420363E00
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 31637CCA68250496249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 A    HW: 0BR 907 554 A
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3016  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 438F260202998606C65-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EAD12BA60D73374EA53-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 D    HW: 5N0 035 342 D
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0150  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7669750557    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 285591AE5BFF455EF37-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 H    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H71 4120  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4271034
   Coding: 00050040010000A00004
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 336F76C292393686565-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V8  7690 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2129  
   Coding: 0016437
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 397344EA7055CCD69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 251    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 31637CCAA8250496249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 456     HW: 5K0 035 456 
   Component: KonzernAmp 8K 0340  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP218109107033
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1.rod
   VCID: E7D752921E610A26BAD-80B2

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2129  
   Coding: 0016436
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A715BE67553C7CE953-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 K
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000015
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 428123061D838F0ECD3-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 H    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H71 4120  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4271034
   Coding: 00050040010000A00004
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 336F76C292393686565-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V8  7690 

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 B    HW: 5K0 035 730 B
   Component: TELEFON       H09 1020  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007660054703
   Coding: 0A01000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 08101 234 178948
   ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 244D859E2FD7A13EDFF-8071

No fault code found.

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Golf (there's a lot of fault codes due to front right door missing controller at the time of scan):
Code:
Wednesday,02,April,2014,21:39:00:03166
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZBW298583   License Plate: 



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Gateway Installation List:  7N0 907 530 C

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
Wednesday,02,April,2014,21:43:41:03166
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZBW298583   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 20 22 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47
          52 55 56 62 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZBW298583   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CDL)       Labels: 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 115 F    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0040  
   Revision: 5BH20---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0403000C1C0F0160
   Shop #: WSC 11200 205 52248
   VCID: 31637CCAA8250496249-8064

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 013 N    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2610  
   Revision: 05351112    Serial number: 00001102071068
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 1C3DBD7EDFA799FE67F-8049

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 143B800D092B0002281001EC901C00413D0000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76E98FD6C1CB63AEB1B-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 EA    HW: 5K0 907 044 EA
   Component: Climatronic   H17 1010  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
   VCID: 6ED9A7B6B19B5B6E79B-803B

2 Faults Found:
13701504 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:29

13701536 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:29


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 J    HW: 1K0 937 087 J
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AE    
   Coding: 40180A3A8825F3C040080088740008E443550088736D8D60E48000240040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 387541EE8B5FD5DE637-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 23031  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 040411 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0330AD

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 

3 Faults Found:
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:29

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:29

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00907 - Intervention load Management 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:29

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 919 475 E    HW: 5K0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0012  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 12501106701046
   Coding: 108104
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 387541EE8B5FD5DE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0071  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 23031101940002
   Coding: 000180
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2757929256E14A26FAD-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 D    HW: 5C0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW10G   013 0613  
   Serial number: 003G7RA054WI  
   Coding: 0000394E
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 336F76C29A393686565-8066

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME6756555EZZZ3

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME3A2D435EZZZ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME481F0A68ZZZ0

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME683F054CZZZ2

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507     HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90472LBK0003U
   Coding: 189A140000
   Shop #: WSC 11200 205 52248
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_SE36.rod
   VCID: EDDB20BA3C9D2076C01-80B8

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H06 0010 
   Serial number: 0029370             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 871 B    HW: 5K6 920 871 B
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 336F76C29A393686565-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 070411F2000017
   Coding: 350002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 306579CE632F0D9E2B7-8065

2 Faults Found:
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:31

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:31


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 857 511 B    HW: 8P0 857 511 C
   Component: FLA           H04 0006  
   Revision: AA001002    
   Coding: 02018B6B74745D545420363E00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2D5B60BA741D6076001-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 B    HW: 0BR 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3017  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 448D251E0797813EFFF-8011

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EAD12BA60D73374EA53-80BF

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 D    HW: 5N0 035 342 D
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0150  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7669730649    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 285591AE5BFF455EF37-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H52 2850  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7089072
   Coding: 040700020100009000
   Shop #: WSC 18493 000 1048576
   VCID: 2E5967B6791B1B6E39B-807B

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 E    HW: 5K0 959 701 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
   Coding: 0004278
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 346D75DE573731BE4FF-8061

2 Faults Found:
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
   Part No: 5N0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 251    3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3B7F5EE27A69FEC68E5-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: None
   Part No HW: 5K0 035 456 
   Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06 0340  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP218109121274
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1.rod
   VCID: 55ABE85A340D08B6981-8000

2 Faults Found:
9462291 - Front Right Bass Speaker 
          B1062 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:31

9462803 - Front Right Treble Speaker 
          B1064 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 28412 km
                    Date: 2000.14.15
                    Time: 11:18:31


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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1477724
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 346D75DE573731BE4FF-8061

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
   Coding: 00000022

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
   Coding: 00000022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H52 2850  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7089072
   Coding: 040700020100009000
   Shop #: WSC 18493 000 1048576
   VCID: 2E5967B6791B1B6E39B-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 356B48DA5C4D28B6781-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 B    HW: 3C8 035 730 B
   Component: Telefon       011 0723  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35909603390787
   Coding: 020000000101000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 11200 205 99205
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A02003
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_SE36.rod
   VCID: 2241838635C3AF0EAD3-8077

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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I don't want to give you any false hope but I think I narrowed the coding down to 6 or 7 possible bits. If I come up with something safe to try I'll update this thread with the suggestions.

-Dana
 
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Thanks Dana. That's pretty much what I've come up with. I just don't understand why I'm getting the error while I'm trying to recode.
 
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I took a fresh look at this today but I do not have anything conclusive to offer in the coding area.

I will note that VW/Audi use coding bridges in factory wiring (either jumpers or open circuits) that are specific to driveline configurations. It is entirely possible that you already found the correct coding along the way but did you consider the possibility that the wiring harness may need a jumper or open to indicate AWD versus FWD? I could be all wrong here but MK60EC1 controllers are fussy enough to either zero coding when something isn't adding up or outright refuse perfectly valid coding when the controller (or car/wiring) aren't compatible.

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Thanks Dana for letting me know. I wasn't aware of jumpers or open circuits in wiring loom. Would you expect to find these kind of tweaks by looking at wiring circuit diagrams... or could they be built inside the modules on the cars? So are they most likely built on the wiring loom or on the control units? I guess I'll need to start compare the circuit diagrams of my Scirocco and Golf... they both share the same ABS/ESB unit so I assume internally they are the same.

Still I'm not sure if the coding I tried is valid... I just tried brute-force with couple of bits (marked red on my earlier post).

But you're sure it's possible to change MK60EC1 coding with VCDS if you just have a valid code on the right vehicle? Like for example if I buy a brand new ABS unit I could recode with the original coding?
 
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Hello Heikki,

These ABS modules vary based on each and every part number (suffix) so it is possible that hardware or software in the controller may vary ... but if coding bridges exist on this car they should be in the factory level wiring diagrams.

VCDS does not have issues configuring MK60EC1 ABS modules when the direct replacement controller is installed as a replacement on a vehicle under normal circumstances. In those straight forward repair situations the incorrect ABS module will either refuse coding -or- the coding will zero it after an ignition cycle when the incorrect module is installed but that is usually in conjunction with an Incompatible Interface or Control module does not match vehicle type of fault code.

Because you are retrofitting it is entirely possible that perfectly valid coding will be refused but the same should occur with the dealer level scan tool. If you encounter an error message other than 31: Request out of range please note it.

-Dana
 
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According to VCDS the ABS unit seems to be exactly the same in my both cars, Scirocco and Golf:

Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0108
Revision: 00H31001

So I assume I now need to double check if I can find some differencies on the wiring looms...

Not sure if I have ever tried, but if I try to recode with the original code (write the same code that it already has), how should it respond?
 
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Not sure if I have ever tried, but if I try to recode with the original code (write the same code that it already has), how should it respond?
That module should accept the original coding but let us know if it doesn't! If that's the case we can test a few Security Access codes - but those alone won't force the module to accept coding it doesn't want.
 
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Hi! Finally had time to try. Did not accept coding with the existing code, same error (Coding out of range).
 
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Today I compared the circuit diagrams of Golf and Scirocco and they seem to be equal. Same amount of wires connected exactly the same way. Perhaps it could still be the problem on coding of some other ECU than ABS... all the other ECUs just won't throw me any fault codes.
 
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