MLBEvo S5 2017 Missing Modules on AutoScan

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Hi Everyone

Bit of a strange one, but we've got a 2017 S5 Sportback that came from Factory without driver side memory seats but it does have full electric seats (Front/back/up/down/ventilation etc).

Now wierdly, whether with VCDS or other tools, no Module 06 (Seat Memory Pass) or 36 (Seat Memory Driver) show up in Autoscans, yet the wiring for the seats is definitely plugged into something under the seat (we haven't physically looked yet)

The S5/A5 2017 is based on the MLBEvo platform like the Q7 4M and if you dont have memory seats ordered from factory on a Q7 4M the modules 06 and 36 still show up in VCDS autoscan so once you have installed the buttons in the door trim, its just a bit of coding to get them working on the door controller and module 06/36 respectively.

We fitted the memory buttons to this 2017 S5, yet ironically can't see Module 36 at all so can't do the final coding needed to make the buttons work, yet memory seats IS an option if you order a new car.

The modules are not ticked in the CAN Installation List, and if we tick them, save it and do a new AutoScan we get:

06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100

Looking through the wiring of these cars from Audi documentation it doesn't show any different permutation of wiring if you haven't ordered memory seats, so the wiring for the motors in the seats must be going into a module under the seat, albeit its not showing up in VCDS or other tools including factory dealer tools.

Any thoughts appreciated

Ta

Andy
 
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I think an Auto-Scan would be appropriate here. ;)

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Shame on me...

See below. This is the scan after we enabled the 2 modules in the CAN Installation List and got the "Cannot be reached" DTCS

Also, ignore the 6C Camera DTCs - they are not all connected and unrelated.

Code:
Wednesday,29,August,2018,08:49:36:08362
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZF58HAXXXXXX  License Plate: XXXXXX
Mileage: 9908km-6156mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: F5-AU49 (8W5)
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 09 15 16 17 19 29 2B 36 39 3C 42 44 46 52 5F
          6C 6D 81 A5 A9 BB BC CA CF D6 D7

VIN: WAUZZZF58HAXXXXXX   Mileage: 9908km-6156miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
29-Left Light -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
39-Right Light -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
81-Gear Shift -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
CF-Lane Chge Asst 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CWGD)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 559 G    HW: 06M 907 309 D
   Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI  H21 0008  
   Revision: B2H21000    
   Coding: 1A2A00322326050B34080000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06334 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0118W0907559G 001011
   ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0118W0907559G.rod
   VCID: 49CFA1EDE93B08EFE6A-801C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 927 158 B    HW: 0D5 927 156 H
   Component: 0D5  30TSIRdW H05 1006  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 100000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMALX52011 002010
   ROD: EV_TCMALX52011.rod
   VCID: 41DFB9CDD10BC0AF3EA-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8W0-907-379-PLU-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 379 G    HW: 8W0 907 379 J
   Component: ESP9 Plus     H06 0719  
   Coding: 1CAA149A30A50A9E11A5489A00805292E6A5D238280C508812004A4967A54B
   Shop #: WSC 17873 123 50804
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ESP9BOSCHCMP 001001
   ROD: EV_ESP9BOSCHCMP_001.rod
   VCID: 49CFA1EDE93B08EFE6A-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8W0 820 043 T    HW: 8W0 820 043 T
   Component: Klima Zone 3  H55 0205  
   Coding: 1608040D5548440D02020100880000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiBHTCAU491 001013
   ROD: EV_AirCondiBHTCAU491.rod
   VCID: 44D1B0D9CE19D58715C-8010

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M1 820 021 A    HW: 4M1 820 021 A
   Component: J216 FLuftV  H08 0003 
   Serial number: 00000000000001437515

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 A    HW: 4H0 907 658 A
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H01 0006 
   Serial number: 18B943A880PAG0MUFU02

   Rear Climatronic Operating And Display Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8W0 919 158 A    HW: 8W0 919 158 A
   Component: E265 Kli Fond  H40 0080 

1 Fault Found:
131078 - Reference Voltage 
          B10AD 16 [009] - Voltage Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9908 km
                    Date: 2018.08.28
                    Time: 19:14:38

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.51 V
                    Outside air temperature: 19.00 °C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 063 CG    HW: 8W0 907 063 BG
   Component: BCM1 MLBevo   H13 0267  
   Coding: 07501B43C13900CD050D51181BAD84F9110B3104000000000000000020001C810A450222025709
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 018006
   ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_018_AU49.rod
   VCID: 025D76C1948D1BB7670-8056

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8W6 955 119 A    HW: 8W6 955 119 A
   Component: 494 RL 180317  036 0471 
   Serial number: 00000001703140303572
   Coding: 5FC7F7

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 81A 955 555 A    HW: 81A 955 555 
   Component: G397_RLFSS  H06 0002 
   Serial number: 20387735X81A955555A0
   Coding: 02005D

   Light switch: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4M0 941 531 AA    HW: 4M0 941 531 AA
   Component: E1 - LDS  H06 0008 
   Serial number: 24 02 2017  00794433

   Automatic Day Night Interior Mirror: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8W0 857 511     HW: 8W0 857 511 
   Component: Y7_Innenspieg  H09 0002 
   Serial number: GX1CE106021723510428
   Coding: 230000

   Interior Light Module: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8W0 947 135 CN    HW: 8W0 947 135 
   Component: J528-Dachele  H14 0130 
   Serial number: B00345222           

   Convenience And Driver Assist Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8W0 925 301 BC    HW: 8W0 925 301 BC
   Component: SL-B9/Q5NF  H17 0010 
   Serial number: 2617000010743002    
   Coding: 000000

   Valve Block 1 In Driver Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J873 MKS_FSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171121810
   Coding: BF0500

   Valve Block 1 In Passenger Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J872 MKS_BFSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171123061
   Coding: B30500

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8W0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8W0 959 655 F    HW: 8W0 959 655 F
   Component: Airbag10.44   H03 0106  
   Serial number: 003UP0048AF9
   Coding: AACCF0C00C800000585400F3D0CC00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU736 006015
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU736_006_AU49.rod
   VCID: 4CC198F9E6491DC7DDC-8018

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 060 504 17
   Component: SideSensor_Df  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3577Y00C521303C2B1CY
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 060 504 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3587Y00BD21303C2B3F4
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0B0 504 17
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1C7 0148 
   Serial number: 3517700B925DA915509G
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0B0 504 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1C7 0148 
   Serial number: 3527700B525DA912A13A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0C1 804 17
   Component: FrontSensor_D  1C5 014A 
   Serial number: 3557500C1223B673C1A9
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0C1 804 17
   Component: FrontSensor_P  1C5 014A 
   Serial number: 3567500C1223B676412/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Center: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0C0 904 17
   Component: PedP_Sensor_C  1C5 014A 
   Serial number: 2307500AD223B67471B8
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Driver 2: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 432 903 17
   Component: PedPSensor_D2  256 0887 
   Serial number: I0M9M00B9207AB435329
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Passenger 2: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 432 903 17
   Component: PedPSensor_P2  256 0887 
   Serial number: I0N9M00B9207AB44F1CT
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 4M0-907-129.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 129 HN    HW: 4M0 907 129 HN
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H11 0009  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOAU736_006.rod
   VCID: 035373C58B9712BF6C6-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:* Redir Fail!-SRI2
   Part No SW: 8W5 920 790 C    HW: 8W5 920 790 C
   Component: FBenRDW       H17 0313  
   Coding: 24AD49DA28880600012369601000400000000000
   Shop #: WSC 17873 123 50804
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardAU736 001022
   ROD: EV_DashBoardAU736_AU49.rod
   VCID: 42DDB6C1D40DDBB7270-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W5 907 468 D    HW: 8W5 907 468 C
   Component: Gateway       H30 0308  
   Revision: 5A010004    Serial number: 0485A276917425
   Coding: 03010001000086405407000000590012E8100007100000000175078E10000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CGateCONTIAU491 002040
   ROD: EV_CGateCONTIAU491_002_AU49.rod
   VCID: 4ACD9EE1EC3D03F7EF0-801E

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8W0 951 523 H    HW: 8W0 951 523 H
   Component: J453 MFL  H04 0002 
   Serial number: 20170411000333 00004

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8S0 915 181 C    HW: 8S0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
   Serial number: 8225973604          

2 Faults Found:
131660 - Seat/Mirror Postion Control Module - Driver 
          U0208 00 [009] - No Communications
          [Timeout_Node_0x4C_DiagAdress_36_SitzMem_FS]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9908 km
                    Date: 2018.08.29
                    Time: 08:41:03

131661 - Seat/Mirror Postion Control Passenger - Driver 
          U0209 00 [009] - No Communications
          [Timeout_Node_0x4D_DiagAdress_06_SitzMem_BFS]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9908 km
                    Date: 2018.08.29
                    Time: 08:41:03


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Address 29: Left Light (J1018)       Labels: 4M0-907-397.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 397 AD    HW: 4M0 907 397 D
   Component: LCM_MLBevoH05 0024  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736 001012
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW48.rod
   VCID: 79AF112DF95B586F36A-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861 A    HW: 3Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MLBevo    H05 0032  
   Serial number: 17000082450008
   Coding: 8800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB.rod
   VCID: 323DE60164AD6B37B70-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr
Cannot be reached

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Address 39: Right Light (J1023)       Labels: 4M0-907-397.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 397 AD    HW: 4M0 907 397 D
   Component: LCM_MLBevoH05 0024  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736 001012
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW48.rod
   VCID: 79AF112DF95B586F36A-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 566 D    HW: 4M0 907 566 
   Component: MRR1Rear      H13 0410  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 4E0002
   Shop #: WSC 06777 128 28888
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschAU736 001022
   ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschAU736.rod
   VCID: 3635DA1188C577179B8-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 959 793 H    HW: 4M0 959 793 F
   Component: TSG FS        005 0125  
   Serial number: 0000287818433 
   Coding: 001DDA6250010000000014B2
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D3B3C5CB17D2BF2C6-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 909 144 G    HW: 8W0 909 144 B
   Component: EPS_MLBEVO_ZF H08 0409  
   Coding: 09000380008000
   Shop #: WSC 06334 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPSZFAU49X 003018
   ROD: EV_EPSZFAU49X_003.rod
   VCID: 41DFB9CDD10BC0AF3EA-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 064 CC    HW: 8W0 907 064 C
   Component: BCM2 MLBevo   018 0344  
   Coding: 013500006F9100406309A0006E01080233034010004306502F0400000504803F001F0001020000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM2HellaAU736 012013
   ROD: EV_BCM2HellaAU736_012_AU49.rod
   VCID: 7F5BFF35E77F765F08E-802A

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 177     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY17082341T

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
   Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0314 
   Serial number: 00000000000069424017

   Sensor Controlled Power Rear Lid: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3AA 962 243 H    HW: 3AA 962 243 H
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H16 0904 
   Serial number: >1084784            

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 959 792 H    HW: 4M0 959 792 F
   Component: TSG BFS       005 0125  
   Serial number: 0000287851915 
   Coding: 001DDA2258010000000114B0
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DDB6C1D40DDBB7270-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* 8W0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 8W5 035 035     HW: 8W5 035 035 
   Component: MU-P-LND-EU   033 0917  
   Serial number: A829D0HB019769
   Coding: 01945301FF0A000053111101000A00332F0012E701700100DE
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
   ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU49.rod
   VCID: 74B12019DE39250765C-8020

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 802 DD    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2018/2019  --- 0169 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8W2 919 605     HW: 8W2 919 605 
   Component: AU49x_DU_HIGH  H40 0008 
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9HBK00HBN      

   Multimedia Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8W0 919 614 T    HW: 8W0 919 614 T
   Component: ControlUnit_H  H30 0206 
   Serial number: APVAK124031700020299

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1015 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J928)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 428 F    HW: 4M0 907 428 
   Component: Areaview 2    H13 0318  
   Serial number: C854607JG022236
   Coding: 02940301BA0FA10008404480
   Shop #: WSC 17873 123 50804
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVAV2CE2MLBEv 005015
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVAV2CE2MLBEv_005.rod
   VCID: 3537DD1D95C37C0F922-8060

9 Faults Found:
13705497 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [message ARA_Status_01 not received]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:20

13705498 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [message Fahrwerk_01 not received]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:24

9591828 - Voltage Supply for Camera; Left 
          B1863 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:19

9598995 - Video Signal Line for Front Surroundings Camera 
          B1278 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:24

9617434 - Video Signal Line for Left Surroundings Camera 
          B127A 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:24

9617690 - Video Signal Line for Right Surroundings Camera 
          B127B 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:24

13706029 - Voltage Supply for Camera; Front 
          B1862 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:19

9617993 - Rear Surroundings Camera 
          B127D 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:20

9591856 - Voltage Supply for Camera; Right 
          B1864 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 9566 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 21:09:19


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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 8W8 959 107 B    HW: 8W8 959 107 
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H13 0161  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 31332040000000
   Coding: 0630
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001014
   ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_AU49.rod
   VCID: 48C9A4E9F231F1E7F94-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 81: Gear Shift (J587)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8W2 713 041 K    HW: 4M2 713 041 F
   Component: GSM-LL        H09 0073  
   Revision: 0L0D5012    Serial number: 20170404000641
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GSMWaehlZFAU736 001016
   ROD: EV_GSMWaehlZFAU736_AU49.rod
   VCID: 3C21C839B6E9AD476DC-8068

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W6 907 217 A    HW: 8W6 907 217 A
   Component: BVS           H15 0050  
   Coding: 0404090300000403024023A2A50000FC10F0C020C280
   Shop #: WSC 17873 123 50804
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736 002026
   ROD: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736.rod
   VCID: 40D9BCC9DA01C9A7314-8014

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 159 F    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0005  
   Serial number: 170403202117
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 44D1B0D9CE19D58715C-8010

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 959 595 E    HW: 8W0 959 595 
   Component: TSG HFS       005 0059  
   Serial number: 0000253612243 
   Coding: 000DD8220001000000001080
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2RearDriveMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2RearDriveMAXHCONT.rod
   VCID: 4EC592F110552FD7B38-801A

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 959 795 H    HW: 4M0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HBFS      005 0125  
   Serial number: 0000265865795 
   Coding: 000DD82200010000000010A0
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2RearPasseMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2RearPasseMAXHCONT.rod
   VCID: 45D7ADDDC523EC8F022-8010

No fault code found.

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Address CA: Sunroof (J245)       Labels:| 4M0-907-594.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 594 J    HW: 4M0 907 594 
   Component: SAD_STG_1     014 0005  
   Coding: 528000049301
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736.rod
   VCID: 3D27C53DADF3A44F5A2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 590 D    HW: 4M0 907 590 
   Component: MRR1Rear      H13 0410  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 4E0002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschAU736 001022
   ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschAU736.rod
   VCID: 3333E3059BB7623FBC6-8066

No fault code found.

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Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2 (A31)       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 592 CB    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
   Component: LED1L         H10 2003  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1A6D2EA11C1DB3779F0-804E

No fault code found.

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Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2 (A27)       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 592 CB    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
   Component: LED1R         H10 2003  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1A6D2EA11C1DB3779F0-804E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:07, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------
 
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Not sure what to tell you. The Gateway can't talk to them, and neither can VCDS.

My guess: Early on, Audi used the same modules whether the car had seat memory or not, but then switched to different, cheaper ones that aren't diagnostic capable on cars that weren't ordered with seat memory. As you're probably aware, VAG seems to be doing whatever they can to make it difficult to retrofit features that weren't originally ordered on the latest generation of cars.

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Thanks Uwe,

Yep, right now that is my theory too and yes, we all know how much harder its getting.

We have ordered a Seat Memory Module (J136) for the right PR Code for Memory seats (PR-3L4) for this car, but until we get the seat out and look to see what black box these seat connectors are plugged into, I'm at a loss as to why we can't see it on the Gateway and be definition in VCDS.

It may be as simple as swapping it out and getting the right coding applied (somehow) to the replacement unit... but I bet the wiring is different too

Any other thoughts/comments are always appreciated

Cheers

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Code:
   Valve Block 1 In Driver Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J873 MKS_FSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171121810
   Coding: BF0500

   Valve Block 1 In Passenger Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J872 MKS_BFSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171123061
   Coding: B30500
Seems to me some/all of that stuff is in 09; at the very least the ventilation part.
 
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We have ordered a Seat Memory Module (J136) for the right PR Code for Memory seats (PR-3L4) for this car, but until we get the seat out and look to see what black box these seat connectors are plugged into, I'm at a loss as to why we can't see it on the Gateway and be definition in VCDS.

It may be as simple as swapping it out and getting the right coding applied (somehow) to the replacement unit... but I bet the wiring is different too
I have kind of the same deal on my 2018 Golf R. I have a power adjustable driver's seat, but no memory or recall buttons, and no addressible 36/06. My Atlas does have memory and recall buttons on the same basic MQB platform. I know yours is MLBevo and not MQB, but I think it'll be much the same concept. At some point, I want my Golf to grow seat memory, and I've kind of started looking into that, but PL24 implies the seat frame is different somehow.

Please do let us know what you figure out.
 
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The S5 Coupe has the same seats but with the memory modules as the seats needs to remember where they were when you access the rear seats. This is even for cars without the memory seats specced. However on the S5 SB, the seats have no need to remember anything, Module 36 and 06 are not installed.
Hence why the Coupe guys can simply code Easy Entry Exit and add the Memory Buttons. Whereas the Sportback guys can't.
The Q7 has a further variant that determines if memory modules are installed or not, the electric steering wheel adjustment.
 
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@Eric - Yep, spotted them too in 09 Central Elec, but its the same on a 2017 S5 Cabriolet that has memory seats from factory so I think its a red herring

@jyoung8607 - Similar indeed it seems, however I've checked the seatframe we have in the S5 SB and its PR Codes are K8R (Sportsback) + 3L5 (Power Adjusted Front Seats). But, the PR code 3L4 (Power Adjusted Front Seats + Driver Memory Function) is the same seat frame part number. So either K8R + 3L5 or K8R + 3L4.

@o33err - That makes sense and I thought the same thing. the SB is 5 door after all so no need to worry about remembering where it was for people to get into the back. However, the connectors coming from the seats which power the switches and motors in the actual seat to move it front/back etc all go to the same coupling point under the seat and then from that coupling point onto a "module" under the seat which we have yet to rip up the carpet to find. My gut is its just a module that is very similar to 06/36 but doesn't have a CAN Bus connection back to 19. In fact it could well be the same part number, but just missing the wiring back to CAN Gateway...

Proof will be when we take the seat out and have a look

Thanks

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I'll be keen to know too. The Coupe has the module 4M0959760A in it, even when the car was not specced with memory seats. But because this module then stores the memory, it can then simply be coded for memory even without the buttons, or with the buttons if you so wish. There are even forums where people are being lead to believe that the seat memory comes with the buttons!
p.s. On the Coupe you can read that module part number without removing the seats.
 
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Actually, in the past 2 hours of untangling this conundrum I think I may have cracked it.. its not actually as bad as I thought, but I'm not 100% convinced I've got it right yet, so once I'm more sure, I'll update you

Appreciate everyone's input.

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What are you thinking? Extremely keen to know what you have found out.
 
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So what did you find out?
 
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I think we have come to the conclusion that the module does not exist on the sportback without memory seats, that said we are hoping that a new seat wiring loom (not as expensive as I hoped, only about £40) and the controller + mount is all that's needed.

Certainly there is no controller under the seat and I believe the motors are the same just don't have the extra plug connected.

Will give you an update once the parts arrive.

Sorry for the duplicate post, I missed this post that Andy started 😎
 
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Code:
   Valve Block 1 In Driver Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J873 MKS_FSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171121810
   Coding: BF0500

   Valve Block 1 In Passenger Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J872 MKS_BFSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171123061
   Coding: B30500
Seems to me some/all of that stuff is in 09; at the very least the ventilation part.

This ^

Door control modules would be the next thing i'd check.
 
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