ACC radar adjustment on 2017 A3

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Anyone know the meaning of these 5 measured values in attached pic? For example, does "misalignment angle" mean the angle the ECU has measured as an offset error? The 3rd line states "performed adjustment...". Does that mean that was the adjustment made at the factory that the ECU recorded?

I ask because my ACC stopped working. I get the yellow triangle warning symbol in the dash and I get the below error code C110300. I did a rough alignment check of the radar alignment mirror that's bonded to the radar surface (square block unit in center, front, lower grill) and I calculate the mirror to be near perfect normal to the geometric vertical plane of the car and pointing .33 degrees too high to the earth level horizontal plane. I measured the mirror to be near perfect normal to the vertical car plane. I'll post the procedure separately if it makes sense to do so - if my measured offset of .33 deg is correctable and ACC starts back up.

13 Adaptive Cruise Control
System description: ACC BOSCH MQB
Software number: 5Q0907572G
Software version: 0571
Hardware number: 5Q0907572G
Hardware version: H10
ODX name: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416
ODX version: 001005
Long coding: D50087C219FFC428949C8055000026
Trouble codes:
C110300 - Adaptive cruise control sensor misadjusted
static
C110300 - Adaptive cruise control sensor misadjusted
static
U112300 - Databus error value received
Intermittent

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Could you please post a full autoscan - thanks.

If the ACC has lost its alignment and needs recalibration then the dealers or a specialist ADAS garage with the kit would need to do it.
 
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Could you please post a full autoscan - thanks.

If the ACC has lost its alignment and needs recalibration then the dealers or a specialist ADAS garage with the kit would need to do it.

Uh, I was not subscribed to this thread so I never go notified. Anyway, I'll post a scan tomorrow. It appears there is no calibration possible in VCDS. It provides measured values only. Is that correct? I understand that the VAS6430 aligns itself to the driving axis of the car so that the radar puck can be then aligned to the tool. This person did this... http://www.audi4ever.com/v2/blog/de...ruise-Control--A4-A5-Q5--Distronic/index.html and I've been able to a similar alignment but with a cross-hair laser. I can post that procedure but even I adjust the radar unit perfectly to spec how do I tell the car it's aligned? And what is the spec? Normal to driving axis? I imagine horizontally it should be but vertically it might be off normal per design. There's a lot of data but no spec for it it seems.
 
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Doesn't the basic setting -> Reset misadjustment angle do just that?

You calibrate the radar to correct angle and the run that basic setting. It should take the new values as reference.

What has happened for the radar to lose it's adjustment? Have you done something with the bumper? Lowered the car etc.? It does not lose that without being physically moved.
There was another similar issue on different thread and there the reason was that the radar unit was knocked out from one of the fixings. OP from that thread just clicked the fixings in place and voila, misadjustment issue gone. So check those first before doing any adjustments.
 
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Here's how it's done properly:

 
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Doesn't the basic setting -> Reset misadjustment angle do just that?

You calibrate the radar to correct angle and the run that basic setting. It should take the new values as reference.

What has happened for the radar to lose it's adjustment? Have you done something with the bumper? Lowered the car etc.? It does not lose that without being physically moved.
There was another similar issue on different thread and there the reason was that the radar unit was knocked out from one of the fixings. OP from that thread just clicked the fixings in place and voila, misadjustment issue gone. So check those first before doing any adjustments.

I removed the bumper and removed the radar unit from it's attachment to the bumper. The same bumper was put back on. Radar unit mounts to a pin-slot repeatable arrangement on the bumper. The bumper was installed at the same elevation (markings where bolts attach were used to verify).

Also, I do not see anything in basic settings except checking the heating function.
 
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Here's how it's done properly:


That's how Audi provides a low risk and robust procedure to get repeatable calibration results from users who purchase and are trained on that system. It is not the only way to do it "properly". ....IMO. At the risk of making an inaccurate assumption the radar mirror can be aligned orthogonaly to the geometric center of the car. If you assume the center of the mirror, the center of the front facing camera, and a 3rd point that is plumb to earth define the vertical plane of the car the mirror can be aligned to that to establish its horizontal spec. Level earth can be used to align vertically. Using a cross-hair laser I found the horizontal alignment near perfect and the vertical alignment pointing down a few tenths of a degree.

What is the software tree required for that alignment system in the video? It's not ODIS, or is it?
 
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Provided you have adjustment screws on the radar base to physically change its alignment. I just swapped the front bumper on my tiguan (which involved removing the radar unit behind the VW emblem) and it clicks into the grille without any alignment screws present (the seat of the radar is part of the grille). Aligning is done with the same setup as in the video, but purely involves changing parameters of the radar. No static alignment possible. And if I remember correctly, a radar unit that does have alignment screws to change the physical position of the radar also needs to be calibrated afterwards just like the non-adjustable units like in my tiguan. So IMO, you’re still half-assing it by only doing a static adjustment.
 
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That's how Audi provides a low risk and robust procedure to get repeatable calibration results from users who purchase and are trained on that system. It is not the only way to do it "properly". ....IMO.
I would consider "low-risk, robust, and repeatable" to be essential when it comes to a system that can fully control the car's throttle and brakes.

I've driven thousands of miles with ACC engaged in two different cars and have always been amazed at the system's ability to differentiate between vehicles that are in my lane vs. vehicles that are not in my lane, even on very curvy stretches of highway. This has also made me aware of the potential consequences if the system did not do that correctly. Personally, I would be very reluctant to use ACC on a car that had been calibrated willy-nilly, i.e. without following the correct procedures using the correct equipment.

One of the things people seem to miss is that the centerline of the car is not what matters to here, but rather the centerline of the car's thrust angle. This is why a wheel alignment is considered a mandatory part of the procedure. We know the car you're working on has been crashed. Has the wheel alignment even been checked post-repair?

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If you wanna play with human lives then get a backstreet job.
As Uwe has said the system is integrated into the car's throttle and brakes. This is why you won't find 3rd party aftermarket ACC or similar ADAS products and I don't think you ever will.
I don't think any 3rd party company could take the risk of a software error and manslaughter charges. Some things you can't avoid paying through the nose!
 
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If you wanna play with human lives then get a backstreet job.
As Uwe has said the system is integrated into the car's throttle and brakes. This is why you won't find 3rd party aftermarket ACC or similar ADAS products and I don't think you ever will.
I don't think any 3rd party company could take the risk of a software error and manslaughter charges. Some things you can't avoid paying through the nose!

Your response is unhelpful. I've never stated I want to change the alignment parameters of the ACC system. I want to align the radar unit to the parameters of the ACC system. That has nothing to do with car throttle or brakes - that is embedded in the system parameters. If it works it works. If the radar is out of alignment it stops working. ...like mine. I want to find what the alignment spec is, what my out-of-alignment is, and then turn the tip/tilt screws on the radar unit to get it working again.

For example, if I can determine which measured value is telling me how far out the horizontal angle is I can easily find how many degrees of screw turn gives so many degrees of angle change. Same with vertical.
 
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Provided you have adjustment screws on the radar base to physically change its alignment. I just swapped the front bumper on my tiguan (which involved removing the radar unit behind the VW emblem) and it clicks into the grille without any alignment screws present (the seat of the radar is part of the grille). Aligning is done with the same setup as in the video, but purely involves changing parameters of the radar. No static alignment possible. And if I remember correctly, a radar unit that does have alignment screws to change the physical position of the radar also needs to be calibrated afterwards just like the non-adjustable units like in my tiguan. So IMO, you’re still half-assing it by only doing a static adjustment.

My car has tip/tilt adjustment screws on the center radar unit. It is attached to the reinforcement bar, not the grill. If there are only 2 adjustment screws how am I "half-assing" it?
 
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Here's an auto scan...

Also if you're interested in seeing the damaged car prior to repair just google image search the VIN.

Code:
Friday,31,August,2018,09:22:51:59265
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUSPBFF9HA039569   License Plate: 
Mileage: 26568km-16508mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type  FF-AU37 (5QE)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 23 2B 3C 42 44 47 51 52
          55 5F 6C 75 8C A5 BB BC C0 C6 CF

VIN: WAUSPBFF9HA039569   Mileage: 26568km-16508miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
23-Brake Booster -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
51-Electric Drive -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
8C-Hybrid Battery -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
C0-Act. for Ext. Noise -- Status: OK 0000
C6-Batt. Chrg. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
CF-Lane Chge Asst 2 -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE 
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CXUA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 023 AN    HW: 04E 907 309 F
   Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H22 3695  
   Revision: X3H22---    
   Coding: 021D0012636401083000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AN 008005
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AN_008.rod
   VCID: 6CD73866876C7624E8-8038

1 Fault Found:
17156 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [047] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 148
                    Mileage: 23880 km
                    Date: 2018.08.04
                    Time: 12:50:10

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 32 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 33 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.200 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bits 0-7: 6
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coord: cause of shutdown in cruise cntr and ACC mode-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coord: cause of shutdown in cruise cntr and ACC mode-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coord: cause of shutdown in cruise cntr and ACC mode-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coord: cause of shutdown in cruise cntr and ACC mode-Bits 0-7: 2
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Accelerator pedal travel: 0.00 %

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0DD 300 046 A    HW: 0DD 927 770 C
   Component: GSG DQ400E    H32 1602  
   Revision: 00032056    Serial number: TFK01607270293
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00099 780 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ400021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ400021.rod
   VCID: 26430A4E59008C747E-8072

1 Fault Found:
30097 - Transmission Fluid Pressure 
          P0867 00 [040] - Function Restriction due to Low Pressure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Mileage: 25467 km
                    Date: 2018.08.20
                    Time: 20:54:03

                    Engine speed: 18.75 /min
                    Engine torque: -100 Nm
                    Vehicle speed: 71 km/h
                    Control Module temperature: 24 °C
                    CURRENT pressure: -10.0 bar
                    Clutch: primary stat: Driving
                    selected gear: GANG_5
                    Driving position: N
                    Accelerator position: 0.4 %
                    DTC memory status: 12032


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-OMG-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 BL    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AH
   Component: ESC           H62 0855  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62216000000155
   Coding: 12FF409238232275897C0A0681CC2948021C44915081947218A1505482A802
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100OMG 003019
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100OMG_003_AU37.rod
   VCID: 7CF70826F70CE6A478-8028

1 Fault Found:
16401 - Tire Pressure Warning 
          C102D 00 [032] -  - 
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 B    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0710  
   Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0414425711
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002019
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
   VCID: 3B75CB3AB282219C31-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 8V0-820-043.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 S    HW: 8V0 820 043 S
   Component: AC Automat    H03 0610  
   Revision: 20001000    Serial number: 00000001022918
   Coding: 0300001001000000080000000000140001000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontNARAU37X 001019
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontNARAU37X.rod
   VCID: 428BB6DED568505472-8016

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 603     HW: 4M0 959 603 
   Component: G395 pT-Sens1  H61 0006 

   Control module for auxiliary air heater: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3Q0 963 231 D    HW: 3Q0 963 231 D
   Component: J848 HV-PTC  200 0204 
   Serial number: -00103.2T.4C20340003

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 A    HW: 4H0 907 658 A
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H01 0005 
   Serial number: 1F58034800PAG0MUFU02

   Air Conditioning Compressor Sub: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5QE 816 803 C    HW: 5QE 816 803 C
   Component: J842 eKK  H02 0006 
   Serial number: IABB00000K0000000117

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 BF    HW: 5Q0 937 085 BF
   Component: BCM MQBAB MNA H34 0236  
   Serial number: 02001620400089
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 7EF3022EE110F4B456-802A

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 A    HW: 8V1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS370 160804  043 0580 
   Serial number:         160809190108
   Coding: 0A47F7

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
   Serial number: 62141365            
   Coding: 00006C

   Light switch: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AR    HW: 8V0 941 531 AR
   Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
   Serial number: 23 06 2016  00001032

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
   Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0313 
   Serial number: 00000000000066799941

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS73.404  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST0014BIZX00000
   Coding: 101F00

1 Fault Found:
204546 - Remote key 2 
          B147A 18 [009] - Current Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 25982 km
                    Date: 2018.08.25
                    Time: 13:37:18


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 294     HW: 5QA 919 294 
   Component: PDC 8 KanalH07 0031  
   Serial number: 000308418616214
   Coding: 0470155811
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009027
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_009_AU37.rod
   VCID: 091961F2A8DEC30C73-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 G    HW: 5Q0 907 572 G
   Component: ACC BOSCH MQB H10 0571  
   Coding: D51087C219FFC428949C8055000026
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416 001005
   ROD: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416_001_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3B75CB3AB282219C31-806E

2 Faults Found:
0267 - Sensor for Automatic Distance Regulation; Incorrectly Positioned 
          C1103 00 [009] -  - 
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 26568 km
                    Date: 2018.08.30
                    Time: 22:23:42

                    Control Module temperature: 62 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.8 V
                    Velocity_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s
                    Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s²
                    Status_ACC_System: ACC_irreversible error

0791 - Sensor for Automatic Distance Regulation; Incorrectly Positioned 
          C1103 00 [009] -  - 
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 26568 km
                    Date: 2018.08.30
                    Time: 22:23:42

                    Control Module temperature: 62 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.8 V
                    Velocity_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s
                    Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s²
                    Status_ACC_System: ACC_irreversible error


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
   Component: AirbagVW20    010 0830  
   Serial number: 003GCR09J8S-
   Coding: 9DFCFCC0002000009000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 29326 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002144
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 479DA7CAFE4A757CA5-8012

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34230167A12081651157
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H36 0350 
   Serial number: 34230168A13081650032
   Coding: 333135

   Occupant Detection: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 694000000000001HX9E7
   Coding: 303334

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 708 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35700000000A7194BD1S
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 708 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 3580000000009194BD1L
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 708 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 6149 
   Serial number: 3510001B92205C32145N
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 708 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 6149 
   Serial number: 3520001B92205C33156R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 607 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3550002A92095071916V
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 407 16
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3560002BF21160D161F2
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 KF    HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0140  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 14081608490079
   Coding: EC18
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_020_AU37.rod
   VCID: 081F64F6B3D4BA046C-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI2
   Part No SW: 8V0 920 894     HW: 8V0 920 894 
   Component: FBenUSA       H13 0045  
   Coding: 08440C516F98CF050283E8101B00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X 001023
   ROD: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X.rod
   VCID: 7EF3022EE110F4B456-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 5QE 907 530 F    HW: 5QE 907 530 A
   Component: GW MQB EV     312 3265  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 10081610520163
   Coding: 0201001726F200005B00121C581000000001010100010000000300000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewEVConti 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewEVConti_013.rod
   VCID: 4999A1F2E85E830CB3-801C

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8W0 951 523 F    HW: 8W0 951 523 F
   Component: J453 MFL  H04 0002 
   Serial number: 20160803112839 01417

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 181 A    HW: 5QE 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
   Serial number: 0190810604          

No fault code found.

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Address 23: Brake Booster (J539)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5QE 909 059 E    HW: 5QE 909 059 B
   Component: EBKV          H14 0200  
   Serial number:   085430010337
   Coding: 03720100331A00030002050500
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BrakeBoostBoschMQBOMG 004001
   ROD: EV_BrakeBoostBoschMQBOMG_004.rod
   VCID: 50AF8C960B04B2C4F4-8004

   Brake Assistance Sub: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5QE 909 057 C    HW: 5QE 909 057 A
   Component: VX70BrakeAssi  H04 0152 
   Serial number: 05802861230716072612

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 16000142422010
   Coding: 5D00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB.rod
   VCID: 3467E0069FDCEEE4F0-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 D    HW: 3Q0 907 566 
   Component: MRR1Rear      H16 0410  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 04C002
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001002
   ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X.rod
   VCID: 3979D132B8BE138C23-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
   Serial number: 080816EH725934
   Coding: 005D1F205C00048000000003
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4385B3DACA72595C79-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 T    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  128 1072  
   Coding: D106
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 4581ADC2C446676C57-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 81A-035-466.clb
   Part No SW: 81A 035 466     HW: 81A 035 466 
   Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0100  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: AUZ8ZAGHX004YQ0
   Coding: 0173030000AAAA2AAA0000010000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI 001002
   ROD: EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI.rod
   VCID: 62CB565E75A8305452-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 51: Electric Drive (J841)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 080 E    HW: 5G0 907 080 E
   Component: LE Gen 3.3H11 1032  
   Revision: 00H11000    
   Coding: 40020000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DMCM08530115G0907080E 001008
   ROD: EV_DMCM08530115G0907080E.rod
   VCID: 29590172481EA30C53-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 150716EGE3465A
   Coding: 005D17205E00048000000003
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 428BB6DED568505472-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 357 A    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
   Component: MxB-ECU       001 0230  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0E5A001123200400
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X 005014
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X_005_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3E73C22EA19034B416-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8V1 035 880     HW: 8V1 035 880 
   Component: MU-P-LNS-US   052 0694  
   Serial number: A702H0G7510874
   Coding: 017393020000000011220002041A00102F0029E5017001047E
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
   ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU37.rod
   VCID: 77FD170ACE2AC5FC15-8022

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 GF    HW: -----------
   Component: NAR 2016/2017  --- 0054 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 604 C    HW: 8V0 919 604 C
   Component: DU High  H49 0014 
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9GY20752D      

   Multimedia Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 BK    HW: 8V0 919 614 BK
   Component: ControlUnit_H  H85 0855 
   Serial number: ALJAL108081600010557

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2---  --- 3009 
   Serial number: --------------------

2 Faults Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
          B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 47
                    Mileage: 23880 km
                    Date: 2018.08.04
                    Time: 08:49:07

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.3 V
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Audio Signal: Not available
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Reception quality: Not available
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: 00
                    Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: 00

6696 - Instrument Cluster Control Module on Optical Bus 
          U10C0 00 [008] - No Communication
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 126
                    Mileage: 25459 km
                    Date: 2018.08.18
                    Time: 20:13:27

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.4 V


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 B    HW: 5Q0 980 556 B
   Component: RVC Compact   H12 0231  
   Coding: 0273100102002001400040
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 006009
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB_006_VW48.rod
   VCID: 3979D132B8BE138C23-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
   Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0568  
   Coding: 017393011080BA0100F800000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
   ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
   VCID: 4385B3DACA72595C79-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 8C: Hybrid Battery (J840)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 915 182 D    HW: 5Q0 915 182 C
   Component: BECM          H05 0911  
   Serial number: U3010028
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BECM09620115Q0915182 006040
   ROD: EV_BECM06020115C6915182_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3467E0069FDCEEE4F0-8060

   Battery Junction Box: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 250 E    HW: 5Q0 915 250 E
   Component: BJB  H28 0240 
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 1: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D1  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622530948     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 2: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D2  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622530951     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 3: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D3  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622531067     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 4: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D4  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622530946     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 5: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D5  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622531055     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 6: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D6  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622531056     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 7: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D7  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622531066     
   Coding: 000000

   Cell module: control module 8: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 5QE 915 591 E    HW: 5QE 915 591 E
   Component: 6D8  H14 0481 
   Serial number: V013C1622530947     
   Coding: 000000

1 Fault Found:
26701 - Battery Charger Input 
          P0D81 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 25095 km
                    Date: 2018.08.16
                    Time: 09:19:04

                    Pack Voltage: 351.3 V
                    Pack Current: -0.00 A
                    Isolation Resistance: 5080 kOhm
                    Maxumum charge current limit: 126 A
                    Maximum discharge current limit: 295.5 A
                    Contactor Voltage: 0 V
                    OBD unlearned counter: 14
                    Crash status: 00
                    Pilot Line Status: 00
                    Fuse Status: 00
                    (Minus) Contactor Status: 00
                    (Plus) Contactor Status: 00
                    Terminal 15 status: 00
                    Max Cell Temperature: 28 °C
                    Min Cell Temperature: 27 °C
                    Air inlet temperature: 27 °C
                    Air outlet temperature: 26 °C
                    LV Battery Voltage: 12.5 V
                    Min.cell voltage: 3.655 V
                    Max.cell Voltage: 3.659 V
                    Max.cell SOC: 42 %
                    Min.cell SOC: 41 %
                    Hybrid Battery Pack Remaining Life: 40.8 %
                    Max Charge Pack Current(10s duration): 0 A
                    Max Discharge Pack Current(10s duration): 0.0 A
                    Max Pack Voltage(10s duration): 350 V
                    Min Pack Voltage(10s duration): 350 V
                    Max.cell Voltage(10s duration): 3.661 V
                    Min.cell Voltage(10s duration): 3.655 V
                    Accelerator Pedal Position D: 14.5 %
                    Calculated LOAD Value: 0.0 %
                    Engine coolant temperature: 51 °C
                    Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                    Vehicle Speed Sensor: 0 km/h
                    Ambient Air Temperature: 215 °C
                    Hybrid Battery Pack Remaining Life: 40.78 %
                    control module system voltage: 12.547 V
                    absolute load: 0.0 %
                    Time After Engine Start: 0 s


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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 G    HW: 3Q0 980 654 
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H06 0231  
   Serial number: 02081611K10671
   Coding: 0403070300000201012223468048490080000E200020
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3B75CB3AB282219C31-806E

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 E    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 200716EGK09733
   Coding: 000C17204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4385B3DACA72595C79-8016

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 395 E    HW: 5Q0 959 395 B
   Component: TSG HBFS      020 0041  
   Serial number: 200716EGK09732
   Coding: 000C17204000048000000002
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4385B3DACA72595C79-8016

No fault code found.

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Address C0: Act. for Ext. Noise (----)       Labels:| 5QE-035-335.clb
   Part No SW: 5QE 035 335 L    HW: 5QE 035 335 B
   Component: E_SOUND_SG    H09 0212  
   Serial number: EN163117810000
   Coding: 04
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ENoiseS1NNVW3707 006013
   ROD: EV_ENoiseS1NNVW3707_006.rod
   VCID: 4A9B9EFEED588814BA-801E

No fault code found.

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Address C6: Batt. Chrg. (J1050)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5QE 915 682 AG    HW: 5QE 915 682 AG
   Component: OBC KOSTAL    H31 4013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 2107160GD0007I
   Coding: 105168023000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OBCSinglPhaseKLOMQB12P 001001
   ROD: EV_OBCSinglPhaseKLOMQB12P.rod
   VCID: 122B469EC58800D482-8046

1 Fault Found:
2097696 - Charging Socket A for AC Connection 
          P31C7 00 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 118
                    Mileage: 25095 km
                    Date: 2018.08.16
                    Time: 09:19:04


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Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2
Interface not compatible.
Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:33)--------------------------
 
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Audigroovin, I think we are all saying the same thing that it is not possible to accurately re-align the radar without re-calibrating it. This cannot be correctly/accurately done without the use of specialist equipment. Due to the safety nature of the unit's purpose, i.e. Accelerating and braking when a vehicle is in front of you, the parameters have to be set/aligned by proper equipment.
 
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My car has tip/tilt adjustment screws on the center radar unit. It is attached to the reinforcement bar, not the grill. If there are only 2 adjustment screws how am I "half-assing" it?

I clearly stated that if there are adjustment screws, its still only one step in the 2-part calibration proccess. The second part is what you’re completely ignoring if you only align it using the screws.
 
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Audigroovin, I think we are all saying the same thing that it is not possible to accurately re-align the radar without re-calibrating it. This cannot be correctly/accurately done without the use of specialist equipment. Due to the safety nature of the unit's purpose, i.e. Accelerating and braking when a vehicle is in front of you, the parameters have to be set/aligned by proper equipment.

Perhaps you are right but that conflicts with what I've read online of other people's similar issue wherein they make an adjustment to the tip/tilt and the system turns back on. Maybe VAG has changed the design for this model year and changed that wherein the system shuts down and losses its alignment completely. If that latter is correct that also conflicts with measured values that show measured angles. I think that if the system can measure itself, output alignment parameters, and turn itself off when it measures something that is out of alignment, then it must know what the alignment needs to be.

Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (5Q0 907 572 G)

22:09:21
IDE08768 Mirror deviation: horizontal 0.260 °
IDE08769 Mirror deviation: vertical -0.484 °
IDE08936 Misalignment angle: horiz 0.014 °
IDE08937 Misalignment angle: horiz: fast algorithm -0.044 °
IDE09380-IDE01784 Performed adjustment-Misalignment angle 0.01 °
IDE09380-MAS08804 Performed adjustment-Horizontal offset angle 5.08 °
IDE09380-MAS08805 Performed adjustment-Vertical offset angle -2.40 °
IDE09906 Vertical deadjustment -0.113 °
ENG00935 Status_ACC_System ACC_irreversible error
 
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ENG00935 Status_ACC_System ACC_irreversible error
But doesn't "irreversible error" suggest that even when the alignment is corrected some further action may be required?
 
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Yes, the line in the measured values, "ENG00935 Status_ACC_System ACC_irreversible error" makes little sense. Does something require replacement? It's also shown in the auto-scan, copied below...

0267 - Sensor for Automatic Distance Regulation; Incorrectly Positioned
C1103 00 [009] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 102
Mileage: 26568 km
Date: 2018.08.30
Time: 22:23:42

Control Module temperature: 62 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 12.8 V
Velocity_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s
Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 0.00 m/s²
Status_ACC_System: ACC_irreversible error
 
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What about non OEM targets and racks?

If you wanna play with human lives then get a backstreet job.
As Uwe has said the system is integrated into the car's throttle and brakes. This is why you won't find 3rd party aftermarket ACC or similar ADAS products and I don't think you ever will.
I don't think any 3rd party company could take the risk of a software error and manslaughter charges. Some things you can't avoid paying through the nose!

Is there liability to anyone other than the driver of the car?
Is the driver tasked with paying attention and not relying on the ADAS in the operations manual?
Does that relieve equipment manufacturers and repair facilities from prosecution?

We have been trying to wrap our heads around ADAS for awhile now.
The market interest is keen, yet it seems like most all are rushing down a path that we are not convinced is the best way forward.

People are spending thousands of dollars on systems that we think are highly questionable.
Shops are using systems that are not OEM for these calibrations.
Aftermarket companies are resizing the targets and moving them closer!
They are proposing new locations, putting them on the windshield to align these systems!

We think you are borderline crazy doing this with anything other than OEM systems and targets, legally acquired from Bosch.
I am not a lawyer, but I have heard others question if there is any legal co-operation between USA and China.
The company that I see is selling more of this then anyone is based in Shenzhen, China.
I think the Hella Guttman choice is a better one, at least they are an OEM supplier.

I watched a dealer technician setting the lane assist on a Subaru last month.
The target was located carefully with instructions from the Subaru Select Monitor 4.
The car was in the learning mode. I did not see him put it into learning mode.
It did not acquire the target where it was set.
The tech went to the target and bumped it with his hand!
Now the car was happy.

That left me wondering.

What are you all thinking?
 
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Wow, so much ignorance. I got my ACC working over a year ago, soon after I posted here. The design intent of the system is that the puck up front is aligned to the thrust axis of the vehicle. All anyone has to do is put a 4 foot x 2 foot sheet metal target bonded to a flat particle board panel a few feet in front of the vehicle and geometrically align it to the car. The ekta manual describes set up. Then run Odis to calibrate. Unless your vehicle is grossly out of alignment this is not an issue. The whole $10k alignment rig is ridiculous. Home Depot rig does same thing for $10. Use firewall for datum reference, measure angle car is resting on, etc... your adjusting in tip tilt the target to be normal to the thrust axis of the car.
 
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