7SPEED DSG FAULT

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Fredrick Awuor

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hello anyone,my client has shipped this mechatronic for repairs in the UK[ecutesting.com] before car hopped into my place,it had,

Code:
;P177C - 003 - Tolerance Limit Reached - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 82858 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.09.18
                    Time: 15:24:44,


	
	


Code:
client share this in January this year,then last month it developed driveability issues and popped a new different code,hence its flight to uk'However ecutesting.com have tested and indicated that it is not faulty,does anyone have a hint at what could be the issue since online info is scant on this......can we use a different mechatronic oil,if so which one,because the current code comes back after a few minutes drive, I have done basic settings and the defined test drive,code comes back immediately,any insight will be greatly appreciated

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Code:
Wednesday,30,May,2018,09:57:50:48669
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: FREDRICK'S VWAUDI

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8U025818   License Plate: KCF577V
Mileage: 122330km-76012mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8U025818   Mileage: 122330km-76012miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CAX)       Labels: 03C-906-022-CAX.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 022 AL    HW: 03C 906 022 J
   Component: MED17.5.20          5936  
   Revision: D5H03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Coding: 0000077
   Shop #: WSC 66020 981 94185
   VCID: 6696BF75B46C2CE7EBB-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 048 L    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 2669  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501306046781
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 66020 981 115161
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

1 Fault Found:
006298 - Clutch 1 
               P189A - 000 - Clearance too Small - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 122305 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 1K0-614-517-MK60AT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AC    HW: 1K0 614 517 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60-AT   0102  
   Revision: 00H14001    
   Coding: 0019074
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 688AB14DBE783A97D97-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HB    HW: 1K0 820 047 HB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 1010  
   Revision: 00141028    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6B80CE41AF8E118FB45-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008031669
   Coding: A08D0F27000415005F1400001400000000097B0F5C000110000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 12345
   VCID: 6FB8DA519B96EDAF98D-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 290208 020  0501  
   Coding: 00049141
   Shop #: WSC 00046  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 15 AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0A95W3  
   Coding: 0012597
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 6C82CD5DAA8016B7BDF-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME344144483

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2C25746AK

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME510434352

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME4C2B2639R

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           752 0100  
   Coding: 0010012
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 77A8E231E3C6A56F40D-8022

4 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 A    HW: 1K0 920 864 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 49837 000 104857
   VCID: 2A0E0B4560F4C8870F3-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
   Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K081050028
   Coding: ED807F060002020003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 303A192D4628B257C17-8064

2 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 226
                    Mileage: 122304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:02:19

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 226
                    Mileage: 122304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:02:23


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 A    HW: 1K0 920 864 A
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0E0B4560F4C8870F3-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N    HW: 1K0 959 701 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000694
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 36362F35A44C9C679BB-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 999002005103087F2D0484057008DF03E0FCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 12345
   VCID: 71BCDC298DA2FB5F8E9-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 N    HW: 1K0 959 702 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000950
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A2E3B05905478077F3-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 382A210DAE586A17897-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

No fault code found.

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Wednesday,30,May,2018,11:07:01:48669
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: FREDRICK'S VWAUDI

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8U025818   License Plate: KCF577V
Mileage: 122330km-76012mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8U025818   Mileage: 122330km-76012miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CAX)       Labels: 03C-906-022-CAX.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 022 AL    HW: 03C 906 022 J
   Component: MED17.5.20          5936  
   Revision: D5H03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Coding: 0000077
   Shop #: WSC 66020 981 94185
   VCID: 6696BF75B46C2CE7EBB-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 048 L    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 2669  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501306046781
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 66020 981 115161
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 1K0-614-517-MK60AT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AC    HW: 1K0 614 517 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60-AT   0102  
   Revision: 00H14001    
   Coding: 0019074
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 688AB14DBE783A97D97-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HB    HW: 1K0 820 047 HB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 1010  
   Revision: 00141028    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6B80CE41AF8E118FB45-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008031669
   Coding: A08D0F27000415005F1400001400000000097B0F5C000110000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 12345
   VCID: 6FB8DA519B96EDAF98D-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 290208 020  0501  
   Coding: 00049141
   Shop #: WSC 00046  

1 Fault Found:
02389 - Release Signal Transmission; Position P/N 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 12
                    Mileage: 122332 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.35 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 15 AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0A95W3  
   Coding: 0012597
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 6C82CD5DAA8016B7BDF-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME344144483

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2C25746AK

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME510434352

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME4C2B2639R

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           752 0100  
   Coding: 0010012
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 77A8E231E3C6A56F40D-8022

4 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 A    HW: 1K0 920 864 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Coding: 0210487
   Shop #: WSC 49837 000 104857
   VCID: 2A0E0B4560F4C8870F3-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
   Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K081050028
   Coding: ED807F060002020003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 303A192D4628B257C17-8064

2 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 226
                    Mileage: 122304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:02:19

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 226
                    Mileage: 122304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:02:23


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 A    HW: 1K0 920 864 A
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD2411BP
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0E0B4560F4C8870F3-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N    HW: 1K0 959 701 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000694
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 36362F35A44C9C679BB-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 999002005103087F2D0484057008DF03E0FCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 12345
   VCID: 71BCDC298DA2FB5F8E9-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 N    HW: 1K0 959 702 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000950
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A2E3B05905478077F3-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 382A210DAE586A17897-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 392C24099552731F769-806C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:04, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
 
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DrPeter

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Hello,

I suggest you have a look at the Volkswagen Technical Service Bulletin - 2021821, for this fault code P189A, it states

"The clutch free play K1 is too small, because of premature wear adjustment."

and

"Replace multiple clutch"

But ... before replacing any parts, I would read the most recent version of the TSB, the Official Factory Repair Information and check with your manufactures parts department for the latest information about these parts.

'Trust but verify." :)


Hope this helps,

drpeter
 
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Fredrick Awuor

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Hello,

I suggest you have a look at the Volkswagen Technical Service Bulletin - 2021821, for this fault code P189A, it states

"The clutch free play K1 is too small, because of premature wear adjustment."

and

"Replace multiple clutch"

But ... before replacing any parts, I would read the most recent version of the TSB, the Official Factory Repair Information and check with your manufactures parts department for the latest information about these parts.

'Trust but verify." :)


Hope this helps,

drpeter

Thanks Dr Peter,I will visit the local dealer
 
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