7P0 telephone retrofit no A2DP functionality

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7P6 telephone retrofit no A2DP functionality

I had a guy come to me with a B7 Passat.
He had swapped over the 9w2 bluetooth module for a 9ZA, that had been installed in a Polo (so had a cradle).
He hadn't been able to pair his phone because the BT module was expecting a dock.
Changed the coding, phone paired fine.

The issue is that music streaming is not displaying track/title info, and the steering wheel controls are not controlling track forward/back.
According to the info available, this 7P6035730L should support A2DP, and it should also support AVHCP 1.3 from what I understand.

The module reports that it's incorrectly coded and I'm not sure why it reports this, but is hopefully the reason why it's not performing properly with streaming.
Have tried resetting all adaptation values in the BT module, clearing all users, and have tried with an iphone and an Android 7 phone.

The BT module has up to date software. I even updated the RCD510 from sw 167 to 171 because I like watching grass grow...still no track info or steering wheel track control.
Note that the steering wheel volume controls work fine, MDI shows track info and steering wheel buttons can control tracks through the MDI connection.

Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions for why it might be missing A2DP functionality?

Code:
Thursday,12,April,2018,13:00:57:58930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ3CZBE31   License Plate: 
Mileage: 117910km-73265mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 53 56 61
          62 69 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZB   Mileage: 117910km-73265miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFGB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 BD    HW: 03L 907 309 N
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 9953  
   Revision: 41H23---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001D0012042501080000
   Shop #: WSC 10964 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BD 003007
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BD.rod
   VCID: 6D87377FBD1F9D4FA9E-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 054 H    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2602  
   Revision: 05351112    Serial number: 00001011051165
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 1B6329A71FABA3FF87A-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 N    HW: 3AA 614 109 N
   Component: J104   C2 450M VDA1 0005  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000003455696
   Coding: 0008124
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 3829D62B8E5DE8E78A8-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 EA    HW: 5K0 907 044 EA
   Component: Climatronic   H17 1010  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000001003
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6E853073B0196657904-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 A    HW: 3AA 937 087 A
   Component: BCM PQ47 H    413 0452  
   Revision: BB413001    
   Coding: 000000000000000000180080540081E441510088426D85606480C7200041
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00051
   VCID: 3829D62B825DE8E78A8-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 31101  26  0612 
   Coding: 00B795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 171110 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0330ED

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 3AE-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AE 919 475     HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H04 0009  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 77631032913599
   Coding: 308102
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000.rod
   VCID: 7CA10A3BF66504C72E0-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 Q    HW: 5N0 959 655 Q
   Component: J234__105 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 22014000    Serial number: 003JZPMUY398  
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 4BC399E7EFCB737FD7A-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS642133020 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS625813070 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6NNE1G6KJ 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6B1J1G6KJ 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 BG    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0136  
   Revision: FF010039    Serial number: 20101122101100
   Coding: 1982250000
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6FBB2D77B7136F5F9B2-803A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3AA 920 870 AX    HW: 3AA 920 870 AX
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 161F01
   Shop #: WSC 20071 959 101049
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 084966EBB2BD58673A8-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 G    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H41 1614  
   Revision:   H41       Serial number: 231110F1002099
   Coding: 462007
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 3431E21B9E350C87A60-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433     HW: 3AA 959 433 
   Component:    IMMO         043 0399  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 20071 959 98314
   VCID: 76B51813C4C95E97584-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380   

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668930144    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 270B05575FE3771F132-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0530  
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0001818049
   Coding: 0202B7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3537DF1F95CF158F91E-8060

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704     HW: 3C0 959 794   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0407 
   Serial number: 00000001789594      
   Coding: 000290

2 Faults Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
          B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175

131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator 
          B11EE 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 313FEB0F6D2739AFCD6-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433     HW: 3AA 959 433 
   Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0631  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0091020052830E76300494157C085F0B007801
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 76B51813C4C95E97584-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: EZE_2         H41 1614  
   Revision:   H41       Serial number: 231110F1002099
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBB2D77B7936F5F9B2-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204     HW: 3AA 919 204 
   Component: Analoguhr  003 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0530  
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0001813899
   Coding: 0202B6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3635D81388C91E97984-8062

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703     HW: 3C0 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0407 
   Serial number: 00000001777259      
   Coding: 000290

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 E    HW: 3AA 907 801 E
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-55183 0007  
   Revision:   H18       Serial number: 00000000057112
   Coding: 0022067
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 3333E107973B0BBFBFA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 190     HW: 5K0 035 190 
   Component: Radio RCD510  041 0167  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3K4683512
   Coding: 0100044104
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 629D54437441D23704C-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Batt.regelung H41 1614  
   Serial number: 231110F1002099
   Coding: 0303185A
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 71BF2B0FA1A779AF8D6-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 F    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0150 
   Serial number: 00000000009370194804

1 Fault Found:
00458 - Control Module for Battery Monitoring (J367) 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 161
                    Mileage: 117910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.12
                    Time: 12:26:55


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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000140135316
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3039EE0B6A2D30A7C28-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664443065
   Coding: 0200000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3B23C927B3EBC3FF67A-806E

1 Fault Found:
13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
          U1014 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 161
                    Mileage: 117910 km
                    Date: 2018.04.12
                    Time: 12:35:23


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:40, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
 
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What's causing the incorrect coding on the telephone module? Missing cradle?

According to Ross-Tech that module 9ZA is UHV-Standard which I believe does not support track or artist data through BT streaming. Does it show the telephone menu on the instrument cluster MFD and does the RCD510 have the telephone controls screen visible with this module?
 
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What's causing the incorrect coding on the telephone module? Missing cradle?

According to Ross-Tech that module 9ZA is UHV-Standard which I believe does not support track or artist data through BT streaming. Does it show the telephone menu on the instrument cluster MFD and does the RCD510 have the telephone controls screen visible with this module?
The module is now coded for no cradle, as there is no cradle installed.
Telephone menu is shown on the RCD and MFD.

So it looks like it's probably just a case of only supporting A2DP with no AVHCP support.
 
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Seems so. As far as I know only 9W7 or UHV-High is able to display track info.
 
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Update:
I popped an RNS510 in and A2DP works fine, with AVHCP 1.3 track/title data and steering wheel control.
So that old RCD510 is not compatible, even with an update to software version 171.
 
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Ahaaa. The RCD510 is plain 5K0 035 190.

I had 5K0 035 190 B which could display track info just. Of course my BT module was also Novero's UHV High so I automatically presumed that was the reason in this case :)
 
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