2014 jetta Horn not working

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Tuesday,03,April,2018,06:11:33:15785
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VIN: 3VWL07AJ6EM440710   License Plate: 2014 VW JETTA
Mileage: 127800km-79411mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 44 56 77

VIN: 3VWL07AJ6EM440710   Mileage: 127800km-79411miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 906 070 D    HW: 06K 907 425 
   Component: Simos12.2     H09 6864  
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001A0012242400161000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D 001010
   ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D.rod
   VCID: 2B5EBA364238991C9D-807E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 09G-927-749-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 AM    HW: 09G 927 749 A
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  109 3132  
   Coding: 000348
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW25.rod
   VCID: 040C318A8F26B6643C-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492600FA851202E592190041A1100010
   Shop #: WSC 48455 001 1048576
   VCID: 75EA5C4EDCFC9FEC3B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
   Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0330838236
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00150
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 346CA14A9F06C6E4CC-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BN    HW: 5C0 820 047 BN
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
   Revision: 2001001S    Serial number: 00000002163605
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   VCID: 6DDA742E74AC572CC3-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013137140397
   Coding: 7B994B9A08230F0008382000240884C500C2502E6000000030A010002000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 346CA14A9706C6E4CC-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
   Serial number:     WRH000BIKAT     
   Coding: 180000

1 Fault Found:
03020 - Local databus 2 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.03
                    Time: 15:09:31


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
   Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
   Serial number: 003MVD04CVTG  
   Coding: 00004138
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 74EC614ADF8686E40C-8020

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y14000154S50F
   Coding: 303042

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME734A7D43ZZZ1

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME242C5842ZZZX

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME1F324B2CZZZ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME1C24582CZZZ-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME7F1B7C2CZZZI

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME03277C2CZZZ/

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 853 B    HW: 5C6 920 853 B
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0809  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 370E00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2B5EBA364238991C9D-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 70E46D5AA39EBAC4E8-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0809  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AD07F328D424014A6-803E

2 Faults Found:
13762560 - Databus 
          U1200 00 [008] - Defective
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Date: 2018.04.02
                    Time: 23:36:45

13762816 - Databus 
          U1201 00 [008] - No Communications
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Date: 2018.04.02
                    Time: 23:36:55


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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000100935005
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 3064AD5A6B1EFAC4A8-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 3972907E70643B8C1F-806C

1 Fault Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.02
                    Time: 23:36:55

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.13 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 18.0°C
                    RPM: 1498 /min
                    Speed: 8.0 km/h
                    Speed: 50.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 188 F    HW: 1K0 035 188 F
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H07 0009  
   Revision: -----12S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7P3573887
   Coding: 21000440020006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
   VCID: 2B5EBA364A38991C9D-807E

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.02
                    Time: 23:08:55

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665619166
   Coding: 0210030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 2E58B322712AEC34BA-807A

No fault code found.

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This jetta has no horn, I can command it with the scan tool and it works. I know there are other issues he said the windows have not worked for a year but now the horn does not work. he just wants the horn fixed. I pulled the air bag off and the horn signal goes to the steering wheel multifunction module which no buttons work. I have 12 volts and ground at the module and no voltage in any other wire. I also have no voltage at the horn sw and is not shorted. I imagine its a data signal coming out of steering wheel multifunction module into clock spring. I printed alldata diagrams and its not correct. Is there any way to simulate a signal to test the horn. Thanks, Mario
 
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Look at the 09 BCM module:

Code:
1 Fault Found:
03020 - Local databus 2 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 127805 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.03
                    Time: 15:09:31
I suspect it's not communicating with the steering wheel control module, which I believe is a sub-system of 09 on this car.

-Uwe-
 
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check the LIN bus from T73b/17 to the door regulator modules and the MFSW on T16 connector on the bottom of slip ring.
 
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check the LIN bus from T73b/17 to the door regulator modules and the MFSW on T16 connector on the bottom of slip ring.

The drivers door sw has water damage that's the reason the windows don't work. I checked for data signal at T16 under steering column I have a data signal that varies one
wire from 2.47 to 4 volts and the other wire from .9 to 2.5 volts. Thank, You
 
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you found the canbus. you need to find the LIN, its white and pink. fix the water damage in the door. it's ruining your lower LIN network, it's now also disabling your MFSW.
 
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you found the canbus. you need to find the LIN, its white and pink. fix the water damage in the door. it's ruining your lower LIN network, it's now also disabling your MFSW.


I compared to another working car and same data voltage, the difference was the horn sw had 5 volts and the steering multifunction control (little module behind air bag in the steering wheel) has a data signal coming in module unplugged. I will replace the clock spring,
 
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yes but if your door is somehow disturbing he LIN signal (short to GND, 12V, whatever), that's my hypothesis, you can replace all you want on the steering column, it's not going to work until you fix the water damage on the door.
you just verified the clockspring is working just fine.
 
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I agree with Michel here. This is a scan clip from a Canadian market Jetta, from a dealer tech in 2014 that was an exact match to that Long Coding. The car wasn't broke, he sent a scan because the car was new and we didn't have a ROD for the TCM:

> Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
> Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J HW: 5C0 937 087 A
> Component: BCM25 JLB H3 H34 0411
> Revision: B2034001 Serial number: pulled
> Coding: 7B994B9A08230F0008382000240884C500C2502E6000000030A010002000
> Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
>
> Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN HW: 6R0 959 801 AN Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
> Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 5461
> Coding: 820000
>
> Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS HW: 6R0 959 802 AS Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
> Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 5461
> Coding: 820000
>
> Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 HW: 5K0 959 591
> Component: J245 PS41.022 H10 0007
> Coding: 180000
>
> Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C HW: 5K0 959 542 C
> Component: E221__MFL-TAS H31 0037
> Coding: 020000
>
> Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M HW: 6R0 959 811 M
> Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5460
> Coding: 800000
>
> Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M HW: 6R0 959 812 M
> Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5460
> Coding: 800000

I realize the customer doesn't want to fix the car properly but all of those slaves should be communicating to the BCM.


Edit. P.S. I'd unplug the door wiring harnesses up at the A and B pillars if the owner refuses to let you properly dig into it. That should eliminate issues as long as the wiring isn't messed up after the door harnesses and in-route to the BCM itself.
 
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Thank you Dana, I still had the other car here in the afternoon I checked the purple and white wire at clock spring plug the working car had data signal 0 to 11 volts, my car measured 0 volts. I took your advice and unplugged one door at the time and it was in the left rear door the problem. the plug and motor had water damage shorting out the bus line. https://imgur.com/a/QxAhp
This is the waveform after I unplugged the LR motor and everything is working. Thank ,Mario
 
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good job solving two problems in one go. customer will have horn, MFSW and door functions back, if all goes well!
 
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Right and since that's a rear door you could leave it unplugged for now. Glad to hear you made progress!

Edit, if you happen to save a scan after this is sorted please do post it.
 
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