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Wow. Apparently the same is true in Austria, Switzerland, and Luxembourg...
In Austria is it not "a serious criminal offence to even own a dash camera" per se, it's more like a grey zone. Many things dashcam does are not allowed, but rules are also not immediately broken if you just own a dashcam. Few days ago I bought one Garmin dashcam which is not storing a video except if I press a button, or accelerometer detects some unexpected behavior (this option can even be turned off) - it should not bring me in trouble during transit through Austria.
Rules are very tricky to be fully followed, so even if you have a dashcam video of an accident, there is high chance it won't be accepted in court. Questionable system...
 

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I've been in Portugal a year ago and people told me to be aware of that rule while driving, otherwise I could be fined. But I drove from Lisbon to Leiria through Autoestrada A1 and I still saw some cars driving on the left and overtaking by the right, so I think that, even though the rule is really good, it's not being sufficiently enforced (or, maybe, the drivers on the left were all Brazilians!).
I don't understand what rule you were told to be aware.

The highway codeis pretty clear and says that you must allways drive on the right lane! The other ones are only used for overtaking. Sometimes different lanes take you to different places and of course that on that case you should use the one that suits. In traffic jams of course that every lane is used.

I leave near Lisbon. A1 is the highway that connects Lisbon and Porto, the two biggest citties in Portugal. From Lisbon until Torres Novas each direction of the highway has 3 lanes (more up north I don't know very well). It's very common to find idiots in the middle lane with the right one free of vehicles.

It is also stritcly forbidden to overtake vehicles on the right side. Overtakes should allways be made through the left. Some exceptions exist. For example, in traffic jams, if the right lane is faster than the left one, these vehicles are not overtaking the other ones on the right.

But (lawyers love these things) the highway code doesn't have an explicit definition of what an overtake is. Some argument that in order to overtake someone, one needs to be behind him, use indicators to show your intention, change to the left lane, overtake the vehicle and return to the right. If you are driving for miles and miles in the right lane and see an idiot alone in the middle lane, some argument that if you just stay where you are you are not overtaking the vehicle, your are passing him.

In Germany, from what I see on YouTube, drivers are much better behaved. You can see videos from someone driving fast on the Autobahn and others vehicles are on the right lane.
 

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Undertaking here is also strictly forbidden but of late, as we have no traffic policing except with cameras, it is becoming a problem, especially with foreigners.
 
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Undertaking here is also strictly forbidden but off late, as we have no traffic policing except with cameras, it is becoming a problem, especially with foreigners.
In fact it is forbidden but then it is not !! English law contradicts itself and that is why they have a problem enforcing it !!

Although not strictly illegal, undertaking is strongly discouraged by The Highway Code, stating “do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake.” However, there are exceptions that apply when a car undertakes in slow-moving traffic if its lane is moving faster than a lane on the right, undertaking in this circumstance is often deemed safer than weaving in and out of traffic.
 

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In fact it is forbidden but then it is not !! English law contradicts itself and that is why they have a problem enforcing it !!
Well you Brits have trouble figuring out what the correct side of the road is anyway, so I'm not surprised you can't figure out which side to pass on as well. :p

 

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you Brits have trouble figuring out what the correct side of the road is anyway

History (what i have read) is that we got it correct where we drive on the Left side of the road. Apparently that idiot Napoleon changed things ?
 

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History (what i have read) is that we got it correct where we drive on the Left side of the road. Apparently that idiot Napoleon changed things ?
Well, in 165 countries, people drive on the right side of the road, and only 75 drive on the wrong side. Moreover, there are a bunch of countries that used to drive on the wrong side that now drive on the right, whereas I've not heard of any that have swapped the other way.

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Well, in 165 countries, people drive on the right side of the road, and only 75 drive on the wrong side. Moreover, there are a bunch of countries that used to drive on the wrong side that now drive on the right, whereas I've not heard of any that have swapped the other way.

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I often wonder if we humans have any sense at all ?

Why do we have so many languages ? Why do we drive on different sides of the road ? etc. etc. ?

Perhaps we are designed to create chaos for ourselves ?
 

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The majority of persons are right handed. I've heard the story that in medieval times, when riding a horse, knights "drove" on the left because if they found an enemy they could grab their sword with the right hand and fight with it. When driving carriages it's prefered to sit on the left to whip the animals with the right.

By curiosity, in Portugal we used to drive on the left. The switch to the right was done in the 1st of June of 1928. In Europe, Sweden also switched to the right on the 3rd of September of 1967.
 

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The majority of persons are right handed. I've heard the story that in medieval times, when riding a horse, knights "drove" on the left because if they found an enemy they could grab their sword with the right hand and fight with it. When driving carriages it's prefered to sit on the left to whip the animals with the right.
Interesting. Now instead of swords or whips we have gearsticks, multimedia, A/C controls and a lot of buttons located on the dash and console which are better handled with the right hand than with left so it seems cars and not so friendly to RHD drivers as they are to LHD (and that's one of the reasons why I didn't rent a car when I visited the UK, I thought it would be too confusing for me).
 

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Interesting. Now instead of swords or whips we have gearsticks, multimedia, A/C controls and a lot of buttons located on the dash and console which are better handled with the right hand than with left so it seems cars and not so friendly to RHD drivers as they are to LHD (and that's one of the reasons why I didn't rent a car when I visited the UK, I thought it would be too confusing for me).

Good thought and makes sense for the right handed driver in an LHD car.

I'm Right Handed and in the UK. Using my left hand for gears and controls is second nature and not an issue.

I now will only buy an Auto Car, then most cars have steering wheel controls which of course helps.
 

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I've heard the story that in medieval times, when riding a horse, knights "drove" on the left because if they found an enemy they could grab their sword with the right hand and fight with it.
That's disputed by historians. The only thing we know of for sure, because it was so well documented, is that jousting was done by "driving" (riding) on the right. There were several reasons, but the two main ones were because they could better brace the lance in their right hand if it crossed over their body and the head of the horse, and because their left side had more armor and a shield, so it was the better side to present to the enemy jouster.

When driving carriages it's prefered to sit on the left to whip the animals with the right.
This is correct, and is one of the reasons why driving in the left seat became the standard in most countries. Napoleon used it as a template of sorts.
 
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