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From the "You can't make this up" files...

An Australian Tesla buyer who purchased a $100K Tesla is outraged that his vehicle's TRADE-IN value dropped $37K in three months. I wonder how long of electrical extension cord they need in Australia to keep an EV on the road between charging stations. :eek:

Quote: "He said he felt 'beyond frustrated' and then shared a screenshot which appears to be an official Tesla trade-in estimate showing the car's value at $63,400."
 

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An Australian Tesla buyer who purchased a $100K Tesla is outraged that his vehicle's TRADE-IN value dropped $37K in three months.
Buy any $100k car and try and trade it in three months later and see how much the dealer offers you.

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The rule of thumb this side of the pond is that the instant you drive a new vehicle off the dealer forecourt it loses value equivalent to all the taxes which amounts to about 20%. And any vehicle that doesn't lose at least 30-40% when one year old is the exception.
 

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...and an EV in Australia is likely to lose 50% of value the minute you sign the purchase agreement. ;) It's a long way between Kangaroo powered EV charging stations in the bush.
 
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Actually a pretty cool invention. Perps might not like them when they are looking down the barrel of one... but it can be an "equalizer". ;)
 

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Have you ever watched Jeremy Clarksons inventions that changed the world about the gun?

 

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Have you ever watched Jeremy Clarksons inventions that changed the world about the gun?

Unfortunately Jeremy is wrong again...

A gun is not necessarily meant only to kill. It CAN be used to kill such as for game hunting or stopping an armed perp but that is not it's only purpose. It can be used for target practice. It can be a nice collectible or work of passion for those who appreciate precision mechanical devises. It can be a security device. Perhaps Jeremy's pontification is based on the misconception that many European's have about guns. Chances are those across the pond would all be speaking German or Russian if not for guns used to stop imperialism by evil dictators.

The whole point of government in removing guns from society is to prevent the masses from rebelling against tyranny. The point of individuals trying to remove guns from society is the naive belief that removing guns from law abiding citizens will stop criminals from having and using them. The exact opposite is true. Properly trained and armed citizens legally carrying often can stop perps before they injure or kill more people. Criminals don't care what laws are passed, they will always have weapons and use them against defenseless individuals. That is their advantage when committing crime.
 
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It CAN be used to kill such as for game hunting or stopping an armed perp
Deterrence. There have been studies done on defensive use of firearms, which indicate most of the time when a potential victim make it clear that he will not be a push-over by drawing a weapon, the perpetrator suddenly has a change of heart and decides he's got better things to do than get shot, and no shots are actually fired.

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Talk about right on time to prove my previous post above...

Cops are telling teenage perps not to bring a knife to a gun fight. Across the pond they are starting to understand that crims don't care what laws are passed.
 
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Bic Cristal Pen and Fender Stratocaster Guitar are often mentioned as examples of timeless design, which had no significant changes in more than 70 years, but the 1911 pistol is even older.
The M1911A1 is an example of simple perfection. It can be made more convenient with additional features such as glow sights, a lower rail mount, or modern safeties, but the A1 pattern stands the test of time. I had a chance to get a parkerized Colt-made M1911A1, but I needed the money for something more compact, unfortunately. I've been on the lookout for another Colt ever since. 😭
 

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Deterrence. There have been studies done on defensive use of firearms, which indicate most of the time when a potential victim make it clear that he will not be a push-over by drawing a weapon, the perpetrator suddenly has a change of heart and decides he's got better things to do than get shot, and no shots are actually fired.

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mmmm.....what is your definition of a perpetrator ? Just asking as a "forner" who struggles to understand the US despite living there for 3 years

It did not work recently in a certain US state against aggression by masked poorly identified thugs did it? But then again I guess he did not draw his gun and the perps removed it before shooting him in the back multiple times

If the people of this certain state started using their 2nd amendment rights to defend their homes or neighbors who are peacefully protesting against poorly identified thugs what would be your response?

I know the questions are rhetorical and inflammatory to a large proportion of the American population who struggle with this contradiction in their beliefs but i have to ask it as politely as I can.
 

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There is no contradiction - just your misuuinderstanding of the facts.

Injecting yourself into a situation as an activist trying to stop a law enforcement operation while carrying a 9mm in your waistband is a recipe for disaster, in addition to being a federal crime. Fighting with law enforcement after attacking them is as dumb as you can get. ICE/CBP like all U.S. citizens have every right to defend themselves against criminals and they did. You don't get to attack law enforcement because you disagree with U.S. law mandated by legislation.

BTW, these law enforcement officers are not "thugs". They wear masks because the criminals rioting are attacking them and their families. It's outrageous and ignorant to attack sworn law enforcement officers for doing their job. If you don't like the laws or enforcement of them, do your fighting in a COURTROOM not on the streets where everyone is at risk of being injured from your dumbass actions.

It's very simple: Either you support law and order or you support crime and criminals as many in MN do including the criminal Dem politicians inciting violence - another prosecutable crime. They absolutely belong in prison for inciting violence - because it's wrong and it's a violation of U.S. law.

And to be perfectly clear I fully support legal carry but not interfering with law enforcement operations.
 
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I guess we choose to differ on the interpretation of this unfortunate situation
 

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I guess we choose to differ on the interpretation of this unfortunate situation
Of course we did. You believe the lies of the mainstream media and ignore the facts of the situation and U.S. law. THAT is precisely how people get the impression that law enforcement is wrong for enforcing the rule of law. The propaganda spewed by the leftist lunatics is intended to dupe the gullible. If all you read or hear daily is lies many people will eventually believe the lies. It is not that difficult to do a little research to discover the facts vs. the brainwashing that the radicals are perpetuating.

For the record in the last U.S. presidential elections 77 Million voters voted to de-weaponize the U.S. judicial system that was weaponized to attack political opponents by the Biden Administration. These voters also voted to remove all illegals from the U.S. The Biden Admin openly invited 12+ Million ILLEGALS into the U.S. without proper vetting in clear violation of U.S. immigration law - for which Joe should be convicted. Within those 12+ Million criminals are a substantial number of violent criminals who have been prosecuted for rape, murder, human trafficking, illicit drug distribution and more in other countries.

It's amazing to me that the leftist extremists fully support crime and criminals but none of them seem to support the VICTIMS nor their families who have suffered at the hands of the violent criminal illegals who have also murdered, raped, assaulted and sex trafficked children and adults since illegally entering the U.S. Even after these depraved criminals have been convicted in a court of law for their U.S. crimes the lunatic leftist try to impede the deportation of these ILLEGALS. It's completely irrational behavior by these extremists because law enforcement is protecting THEM as well as the rest of society.

To be clear the U.S. like most civilized countries has a proper immigration system to vet people and prevent criminals and other undesirables from entering the U.S. This system is in place to protect society from these criminals. Those who illegally enter the U.S. show their clear disrespect for U.S. law and should be deported. There is no God-given right to illegally invade the U.S. Emigrating to the U.S. is a privilege granted to those who use the proper immigration system and pass scrutiny.

It's worth noting that I have no issue with immigrants coming to the U.S. LEGALLY. Some of my best friends are naturalized U.S. citizens who properly used the U.S. immigration system to become U.S. citizens. Anyone illegally entering the U.S. aside from being a criminal is a slap-in-the-face to ALL persons who used the proper U.S. immigration system to legally live within the U.S.
 

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No I don't believe what I see and read in either left or right wing media but make up my own mind based on my own analysis of the facts. However debate with you on this topic is a waste of my time given your very fixed opinions so i will not bother.

Incidentally I do have a Blue Mk4 R32
 

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No I don't believe what I see and read in either left or right wing media but make up my own mind based on my own analysis of the facts. However debate with you on this topic is a waste of my time given your very fixed opinions so i will not bother.

Incidentally I do have a Blue Mk4 R32
Congrats on the MK 4 Blue R32. Great cars IMO.

As far as the discussion on leftist extremist activists trying to stop law enforcement from enforcing U.S. law, I am always willing to engage in civil discussions on important topics like immigration, law enforcement, U.S. Constitutionally protected rights, radical views by climate extremists, etc.

I'd be very interested in hearing your analysis of the FACTS - as you see them on the topic of impeding law enforcements removal of all illegals from the U.S. as stipulated under U.S. federal immigration law. I would truly enjoy learning how you reached your conclusions in this matter as I view it as very important. Please share how you reached the conclusions you stated in your post above about law enforcement officers "being masked thugs". Explain how you think showing up at a law enforcement action on the street and attacking ICE/CBP officers multiple times in two weeks is some how "protesters using their second amendment rights to protect people's homes and neighbors".

As I have stated before I fully support legal gun carry but there are rules, limitations and responsibilities mandated with legally carrying a gun that all must abide by.

I genuinely would like to know how you reached the conclusions in your post above. Please share.
 
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