ACC retrofit in MQB Tiguan

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kamold

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Hi All,

For whatever perverse marketing reasons, VW (at least here in Australia, not sure about other markets) offers the Tiguan in 3 trim levels all with front assist and city emergency brake.
Not too sure how this is done across the rest of the model range yet.
Therefor they are equipped with an A5 camera module and 13 auto distance radar as well as the appropriate ABS module.

However ACC is part of an additional package known as the Driver Assistance Package that also includes side assist.
So whilst all the requisite hardware is there for ACC, it cannot be enabled by simply coding the modules correctly.
VW have chosen to lock the feature using Feature Enable Codes, and will not offer to enable ACC as a SoftWare as A Product upgrade.

Thankfully Don Wang from this forum has been able to assist me.

Yesterday we activated ACC on 2 Tiguans, one a Comfortline TSI and another an RLine TDI.

What is required in order to perform the retrofit is a brand new ("virgin") Canbus gateway module and front radar module.
In our case we used the exact same ADR part number, but used a newer 5Q0 gateway in place of his original 3Q0 gateway.
You can't just add the FEC to the existing factory modules.
Also need to replace the steering wheel button set with the new ACC version.

Don is then able to add the brand new modules one at a time using that VW online software which shall not be mentioned, clear CP and perform the coding required.
Perform G85 and 13 ADR calibrations and away you go.

Thank you Don!!! :)

Here is an autoscan of the Rline after ACC has been activated and everything is calibrated and working:

Code:
Friday,19,January,2018,00:38:34:58930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.12.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20171213 DS285.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW3   License Plate: 
Mileage: 6348km-3944mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 16 17 19 22 29 2B 36 39 42 44
          4B 52 5F 6C 6D A5 BB BC CA D6 D7

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW3   Mileage: 6348km-3944miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
29-Left Light -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
39-Right Light -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFHA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 026 EJ    HW: 04L 907 309 P
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H24 3661  
   Revision: B4H24---    
   Coding: 0125003204671D083000
   Shop #: WSC 52104 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026EJ 004003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026EJ_004.rod
   VCID: 76B51813C8495E91B55E-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0DL 300 011 N    HW: 0GC 927 711 G
   Component: GSG DQ500     H06 2001  
   Revision: 00H06V07    
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3333E1079BBB0BB952C0-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CG    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AG
   Component: ESC           H62 0643  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63216000002448
   Coding: 0AEE939A54270B704779070462C34950C92AD0E2E046927D386250B8C22A4200002F641A1B13111435351919323200
   Shop #: WSC 52104 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036.rod
   VCID: 78A9162BC25D28E1A772-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435 E    HW: 3Q0 959 435 E
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    036 0811  
   Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 0422762018
   Coding: 032C2C070F
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004039
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 3C21CA3BB6E5C4C1839A-8068

   Sensor Controlled Power Rear Lid: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 962 243 A    HW: 3G0 962 243 A
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H17 0903 
   Serial number: 98100182            

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 3V0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5NA 907 044 G    HW: 5NA 907 044 G
   Component: AC Automat    H35 4101  
   Revision: 20K08000    Serial number: 00000B00307409
   Coding: 0012012420010000110510001210142A
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X 002019
   ROD: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43D3B1C7CB1BBB39C260-8016

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 

   Rear Climatronic Operating And Display Unit: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 907 049 D    HW: 3G0 907 049 D
   Component: E265KlimaHeck  H02 0201 
   Serial number:       04031501850571
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CG    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CG
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H34 0236  
   Serial number: 02001632000959
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 7F5BFD37E7731FD9E638-802A

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NC 955 119     HW: 5NC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: 326 RL 160922  033 0372 
   Serial number: 00000001609200301956
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  042 0105 
   Serial number: S5Y16M11D22H08M10S38
   Coding: 06A8DD

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 919 298 A    HW: 3Q0 919 298 
   Component: PLA 3.0 12K   H09 0021  
   Serial number: 001907167478000
   Coding: 0331563051
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHBO2CVW3260000 010016
   ROD: EV_EPHBO2CVW3260000.rod
   VCID: 3B23C927B3EBC3F98A90-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 2Q0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 2Q0 907 572 H    HW: 2Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACCCONTIMQB   H01 0155  
   Coding: 320147C15CFF8428749C8065303087
   Shop #: WSC 00070 123 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376 001010
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376_001.rod
   VCID: 392FD32FB9D7F1E998FC-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 5Q0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 376 B    HW: 5Q0 907 376 A
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H17 0121  
   Serial number: 19101641350033
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DRCONTITEMIC 001019
   ROD: EV_DRCONTITEMIC_VW27.rod
   VCID: 3829D62B82DDE8E167F2-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AR    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AR
   Component: AirbagVW21    003 0317  
   Serial number: 003TDR2C2AX2
   Coding: 98CCC0C00C0000005C540000008800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002154
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 10794E8BCAED10A10F62-8044

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 711 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 357000000002A37CEF1-
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 711 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35800000000F737CEF14
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 811 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 6149 
   Serial number: 3510001BB2303C81F2C4
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 811 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 6149 
   Serial number: 3520001BB2303C84F453
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 411 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 6149 
   Serial number: 3550001C523B3B51C3C8
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Driver: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 111 16
   Component: PedP_Sensor_D  000 6149 
   Serial number: 2280001C522F9761C334
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Passenger: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 111 16
   Component: PedP_Sensor_P  000 6149 
   Serial number: 2290001A922F9765C2FM
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Center: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 111 16
   Component: PedP_Sensor_C  000 6149 
   Serial number: 2300001C522F976125C+
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Driver 2: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 411 16
   Component: PedPSensor_D2  001 0887 
   Serial number: I0M0000000024B094F10
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Pedestrian Protection Passenger 2: 
   Subsystem 10 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 411 16
   Component: PedPSensor_P2  001 0887 
   Serial number: I0N00000000FE2716F1G
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 953 521 DM    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235  
   Revision: FF033033    Serial number: 20161122200788
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001016
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 7EA50033E07916D1ED2E-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5NA 920 751 A    HW: 5NA 920 751 A
   Component: KOMBI         309 8311  
   Coding: 27A500187F84000801886B031401000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 52104 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D27C73FADFFCDC9B4A4-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2265  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 02081610000651
   Coding: 030500047F085900FB07225E1E0F00010001050100000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 19460 666 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_013_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7CA10A3BF66504C1C31A-8028

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 N    HW: 5G0 959 442 N  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H11 0040 
   Serial number: 29160000260380076054
   Coding: 2C0000

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 D    HW: 5QA 915 181 D
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
   Serial number: 7226062104          

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083  
   Serial number: HA1-00026.10.16
   Coding: 0101
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_004.rod
   VCID: 4ACD9CE3EC316A710126-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light (J1018)       Labels: 8V0-907-399.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 399 B    HW: 8V0 907 399 B
   Component: LCM_MLBevoH07 0014  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736 001012
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 45D7AFDFC52F8509EC74-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861     HW: 3Q0 905 861 
   Component: ELV-MQBB      H05 0032  
   Serial number: 16000255273007
   Coding: 0800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB.rod
   VCID: 71BF2B0FA12779A960AC-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J810)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 760 B    HW: 5Q0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory    H08 0020  
   Serial number: Y0006PJS16792
   Coding: 0014000000000500018281808181000000008181000000F400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide 002021
   ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide_002_VW48.rod
   VCID: 3C21CA3BB6E5C4C1839A-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light (J1023)       Labels: 8V0-907-399.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 399 B    HW: 8V0 907 399 B
   Component: LCM_MLBevoH07 0014  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736 001012
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 45D7AFDFC52F8509EC74-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
   Serial number: 041116EK418066
   Coding: 003F1B20D201040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D3B1C7CB1BBB39C260-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5QF 909 144     HW: 5QF 909 144 _
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5572  
   Coding: 9307
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 074B65D7BFA35719DE88-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module (J745)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 338     HW: 3Q0 907 338 
   Component: FCM MQB Low   001 0285  
   Serial number: 09111610801415
   Coding: 000000050100085607000F010A0000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X 001010
   ROD: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X.rod
   VCID: 72BD2403A42142B199B6-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 251016EJP11281
   Coding: 003F1120DE01040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DDB4C3D401B231C956-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 3G0 035 045 D    HW: 3G0 035 045 
   Component: MU-H-N-RW     H51 0814  
   Serial number: A688K0G2509427
   Coding: 02730608FF00000051510001000808001F0106C601200100DF
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS 001001
   ROD: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1F1B1DB70733BFD986F8-804A

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606 
   Component: ABT_High  H63 0032 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9SKL05350      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 EC    HW: -----------
   Component: ROW 2017  --- 0062 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2---  --- 4009 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 B    HW: 5Q0 980 556 B
   Component: RVC Compact   H12 0231  
   Coding: 0123060122002017000040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 006009
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 392FD32FB9D7F1E998FC-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 M    HW: 5Q0 959 107 C
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H12 0261  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 30963136400000
   Coding: 0A28
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001014
   ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42DDB4C3D401B231C956-8016

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 H    HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H06 0271  
   Serial number: 22111611P20670
   Coding: 000307060000010100022344C150A90094000E230020
   Shop #: WSC 40543 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW27.rod
   VCID: 3C21CA3BB6E5C4C1839A-8068

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 E    HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
   Component: TSG HFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 081116EK711655
   Coding: 002A11200100040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 45D7AFDFC52F8509EC74-8010

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 E    HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
   Component: TSG HBFS      020 0041  
   Serial number: 081116EK714274
   Coding: 002A11200100040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 45D7AFDFC52F8509EC74-8010

No fault code found.

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Address CA: Sunroof (J245)       Labels:| 4M0-907-594.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 594 J    HW: 4M0 907 594 
   Component: SAD_STG_1     013 0005  
   Coding: 108040732602
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736.rod
   VCID: 3D27C73FADFFCDC9B4A4-8068

No fault code found.

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Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2 (A31)       Labels: 7PP-941-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 572 AB    HW: 7PP 941 572 A
   Component: LED1L         H09 0003  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 16753893E809FE91551E-8042

No fault code found.

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Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2 (A27)       Labels: 7PP-941-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 572 AB    HW: 7PP 941 572 A
   Component: LED1R         H09 0003  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW48.rod
   VCID: 16753893E809FE91551E-8042

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:10, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
 
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Thank you very much for sharing these experiences.

Why did you upgrade to a 5Q0 Gateway? What was the necessity?
Shouldn't it be enough to replace the very restricted front assist radar module?
I'm just curous, these are not rhetorical questions ;)
 
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As I understand it, the only way to get the ACC FEC to be added to the canbus gateway is by introducing a brand new module.
Then when you replace the distance radar module and restore FEC to it there is some comparison with the gateway's installed FEC and ACC is allowed to be activated.
 
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So the replacements have to follow a special order? FEC stuff is quite new to me.
 
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Yes they do otherwise the whole procedure will result in programmed modules that have the same fec as from factory.
 
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So first replace gateway (with removal of the component protection...), then radar module?
Could you explain the phrase "restore FEC to it"? Is this a step to be performed manually somehow?
 
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Unfortunately I'm new to this online stuff also so you're probably best to get in touch with Don.
 
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I have retrofitted ACC to our MQB Leon and it did not require new CAN gateway. What it needs a certain type of ACC radar module to which the bootloader can be flashed on the bench. It needs CP removal through official way after that, but no need to replace the gateway.
The round front MRR or LRR radars should be fine, the flat front are not. Those have no modifiable bootloader section.
 
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That's interesting about the round radar.
Tig uses the square radar.
 
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Don, would you be able to share more details about this approach? I thought it is impossible to trick FEC/SWAP protection just using ODIS? Would love to retrofit ACC into the SE of my wife, it already has the correct radar 2Q0907572M used for the emergency assist.
 
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^ Only way is to install the older type round faced radar. I gave false information on my previous post that it would need a bootloader. It doesn't. The round faced radar does not have SWaP/FeC scheme yet. It only has component protection which is easily removed by the dealer.

You cannot trick or fool the factory connection to enable ACC to your car in any way if it does not have it.
 
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How did you do the calibration? I have read that for calibration of this sensor no need to have VAS tools.
 
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I had it calibrated by authorized workshop. No problems there.

The calibration could basically be done as DIY using laser pointer and target practice paper :) There’s a mirror on one edge of the radar to which you point the laser and then try to adjust the radar so that the reflected beam hits bullseye on the target paper. Tricky but doable. Workshop calibrates ACC in about one hour.
 
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^ Only way is to install the older type round faced radar. I gave false information on my previous post that it would need a bootloader. It doesn't. The round faced radar does not have SWaP/FeC scheme yet. It only has component protection which is easily removed by the dealer.

You cannot trick or fool the factory connection to enable ACC to your car in any way if it does not have it.
Thanks for your reply. Reading the original post from @kamold I am not sure if I want to believe that you cant use the original square radar and make it work. I doubt its possible with ODIS but if someone can do it, its DV52 and the explanation "how" was somewhat logical.

For my Ford business for example, I was always able to change the VIN in den BCM and cluster (both masters to identify the car) to a car which had lane keep assist. Once this was done, I used IDS (Ford diagnostics) to install new software on ECM which allowed me to activate the calibration mode for the lane keep assist which I retrofitted there.

In general Ford will tell you its impossible to retrofit, as you cant do the calibration but I found a way doing it with the factory tools - same hope that Don found a way :thanks:
 
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^ Believe what you want, this is not a matter of belief nor it's a matter of coding. You need to have proper authorization codes to your gateway and the only way to do that is through factory connection. Factory will deny the code activation if your car never had ACC. Plain and simple.

Lane assist in VW does not need any form of activation. It's fully retrofittable item and can be calibrated by yourself (if you make a proper calibration board) or by dealer, just like original. ACC is a different animal. That requires feature enable codes to be activated to your gateway, and that you cannot do with coding. ODIS and authorized GEKO connection is the only way and that does not work if you don't have it from the factory. Even you get a gateway from another car that has ACC, as soon as you put it to your car and VIN changes, bang, codes are disabled.
Lane assist camera has similar "safety" feature. It will lose it's calibration as soon as you put it to another car with another VIN.

This page very clearly explains the process and what is needed for that : http://mqb.pl/en/adaptive-cruise-control-retrofit-acc-on-mqb/. Only thing I'm not agreeing here is the no need for calibration statement. ACC always needs a calibration if you remove the radar, even it wouldn't complain about it. The small adjustments on the radar end have big impact on radar's "visibility" in the front. Wrongly adjusted will take false readings from ground, cars on next lane or even opposite traffic in worst cases.
This is one of the reasons why VAG is making the ACC retrofit nearly impossible. People don't care. They install these safety related features to their cars and then leave them as is without taking the process fully to the end. The save is max 200 € if you leave the ACC radar uncalibrated but the cost could be much higher in the end if you end up rearing someone or in worst case, someone is killed because you did not want to spend 200 € for professional calibration.

You can buy the flat faced radar but only thing you'll gain from that is expensive paper weight. Nothing else. Don cannot help you with this one, trust me.
 
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^ Only way is to install the older type round faced radar. I gave false information on my previous post that it would need a bootloader. It doesn't. The round faced radar does not have SWaP/FeC scheme yet. It only has component protection which is easily removed by the dealer.

You cannot trick or fool the factory connection to enable ACC to your car in any way if it does not have it.
I've done it. Twice.
I can't say I understand it because I was sent the parts from Don Wang (not DV52, some very famous Dons here lol) and he performed the necessary online work.
 
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I know this. But apparently he's not doing it anymore as he has not responded to people trying to contact him.

I heard from another source that VW is aware of what the Chinese are doing and they are pulling the plug from them. Meaning they are introducing counter measures which makes their work impossible.

Don't know what's the truth.
 
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I've not been able to contact him now for a few months. I hope he's OK.
I'm sure that VW is working with their component suppliers to always try and move another step ahead of anyone operating outside of their official channels.
Whilst understandable it does make what was a fun hobby of retrofitting into a much more difficult and frustrating (if not impossible in some cases) undertaking.
 
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Ahh that makes sense, so its not DV52 and it was not done in the car directly with ODIS only. That was all I wondered about, so I assume its not possible as known BUT maybe with some 3rd party tools as some offer hacked 5Fs to retrofit navigation as well.

Well, I will wait and hope that some 3rd party solution pops up and I still have 10 month paid subscription to ODIS, even it doesnt seem to help in this instance :/

Thanks all!
 
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We have waited 5 year for a 3rd party tool solution and not had any yet. So loooong wait ahead.

5F is different as it’s self contained. All the Feature codes are in the MIB unit itself. Only check against gateway is component protection. ACC will do challenge against gateway and if they don’t match boom, ACC disconnects.
Even our clever Russian friends have not been able to hack this and they hack everything.

I suggest you do some heavy reading on this subject and you’ll understand there’s no solution coming.
 
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