AdBlue Adaptation

   #1  

barbarmi

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Sep 16, 2014
Messages
14
Reaction score
5
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=217814
I have a 2010 Q7 TDI Premium Plus ~85K miles. Had the AudiCare Service through 45K, been performing maintenance myself since then. I have been having a problem with the AdBlue consumption indication (don't know if it is real or not). Contacted Ross-Tech and they provided the MVB for Tank Level. Looking at the Wiki and other posts for adblue haven't found anything that helps (yet).

My issue is the AdBlue warning is on in the car and I can't get it to turn off. I recall the very first time I filled the AdBlue tank (10K after last AudiCare service) and it took 5+ gals to fill, I remember because I only bought a single 2 1/2 gal jug and needed to run and get 2 more, After reading multiple threads that seemed right. Problem was the AdBlue warning came on in about 1500 miles, I topped off the tank and had to repeat that approach for a while. Then I found a thread that said the AdBlue tank level doesn't reset automatically and you need to turn the ignition key-on for 30+ secs (with engine off) to reset the tank level. I tried that and it seemed to work (until last night). After the last top-off of AdBlue and Key-on reset, car ran about 5K before I got the AdBlue alarm. Last night repeated the fill procedure (add adblue shake the car to get the fluid to drain to the main tank, repeat) until the top tank was full (could see fluid in the filler neck) and it wouldn't take any more. Problem is the alarm didn't clear (like it had in the past).

Some of threads I have seen where some say Adaptation is required and some say it isn't (depending on the version software you have). As stated, I have tried the "Key on for 30+ secs" but that didn't work this time. Using the information provided by Ross-Tech checked the MVB for tank level and it shows 19.01 (which I gather is %). So now the request for help.

1) Does anyone have specific Adaptation instructions (Which Tab, Which Module, Which Value, New Value for full tank etc.). Tried stepping through the obvious ones but didn't see any that had "19" as the current value (the reported level in my tank).


As noted in the long winded intro I have been sorta struggling with this for a while (low level alarm coming on in short miles) but have always been able to top of the tank, see the alarm clear and drive on so while it wasn't right is wasn't a big problem.

Sorry for the long post and any help is appreciated.

Here is the scan summary from last night (if it helps). If more information is needed let me know and I'll download it.

Code:
Data version: 20140822

Dealer/Shop Name: MJ 

VIN: WA1LMAFEXAD008198   License Plate: TQNC
Mileage: 137950km-85718mi   Repair Order: 9_19_14


Chassis Type: FE (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 28 36 42 46 47 4C 4F 52 55
          56 5F 62 69 6C 6D 6F 72 76

VIN: WA1LMAFEXAD008198   Mileage: 137950km/85718miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CAT)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L1 910 401 G    HW: 4L0 907 401 B
   Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G004AG  0080  
   Revision: 31H04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0121002A190F0968
   Shop #: WSC 09228 444 999999
   VCID: 275DE0C196904B26FA7-8072

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 LL    HW: 09D 927 750 LL
   Component: AL 750 6A           1579  
   Revision: 00H92000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0001016
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 83051451C268C70606F-80D6

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4L0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 517 K    HW: 4L0 614 517 K
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0020  
   Revision: 00H30001    
   Coding: 0099473
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 326B0195AD523E8E5D9-8067

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 D
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602601569521
   Coding: 0000131
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2541EAC9EC9C5936C8B-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 J
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0054

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 043 C    HW: 4L0 820 043 AB
   Component: KLIMA 4 ZONEN H12 0030  
   Revision: 00---017    Serial number: 00000000233733
   Coding: 022036
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2447F7CD27A6A03EDF5-8071

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 R    HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H26 0340  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0039123
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 387F33BD4B2ED4DE63D-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU716   H17 0100  
   Coding: 00064792
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003  
   Coding: 00150059
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41)       Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 110 A    HW: 4F0 035 110 
   Component: CDC-MP3-Alp   H44 0140  
   Revision: AA001001    
   VCID: 1521DA09FCFCC9B658B-8040

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4L0-910-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 655 A    HW: 4L0 959 655 B
   Component: 73 AIRBAG AUDI8RH43 0230  
   Revision: 07H43000    Serial number: 0038QD09FARP  
   Coding: 0014131
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2B551CF18A786F461EF-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H03 0030

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332QSME215C1D02B

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342QSME265E141EN

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME165E2328I

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME165E2114C

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63734SME71562036V

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63834SME5052012EV

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 D
   Component: J0527               0530  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 90026101070012
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 275DE0C196904B26FA7-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H02 0100

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 4L0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 920 982 P    HW: 4L0 920 982 P
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H09 0147  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: DKY25V35A     
   Coding: 8BD664040100CF05020201
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3E7325A5A90AEAEEA91-806B

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035  
   Revision: LB100029    Serial number: 2900L1041580AB
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 397936B9B024CDD69C3-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 D    HW: 8K0 915 181 D
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 28: HVAC, Rear        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 158     HW: 4L0 919 158 AA
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH06 0060  
   Revision: 00---010    Serial number: 00000030150382
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: E8DF23FDDB0E045EB3D-80BD

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C    HW: 4F0 959 760 C
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0062  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001010140320
   Coding: 00581300000011110000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 31690E9968540596243-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000103867623 
   Coding: 011F07205E40440004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 46834D45F1DAB22EE11-8013

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 4L0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 289 H    HW: 4L0 907 289 H
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H10 0110  
   Revision: 0110 ---    Serial number: 01297220310000
   Coding: 3569693
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 35613A895C3C29B678B-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

1 Fault Found:
03073 - Rear Lid Closed Sensor 1 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 29
                    Mileage: 124054 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.03.22
                    Time: 13:07:03


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4L0 035 223 E    HW: 4L0 035 223 E
   Component: BOSE G3 AU716 H01 0100  
   Revision: AH001500    Serial number: 00000000024138
   Coding: 0D000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2447F7CD27A6A03EDF5-8071

1 Fault Found:
16349 - Control Module - Error in Output Stage 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 65 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.07.28
                    Time: 17:58:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4C: Tire Pressure II        Labels: 4F0-910-274.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 274 B    HW: 4F0 907 274 
   Component: J793  RKA+      H03 0110  
   Revision: 00000276    Serial number: 00002760010047
   Coding: 0696013
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2345F4D1E2A8A706A6F-8076

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 D
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000066645
   Coding: 0012001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: DEB30525094A4AEE491-808B

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000103783307 
   Coding: 011F07205E40440004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 45814A49CCDCB936E8B-8010

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000007
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3F8D58A16E00E3E6A27-806A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A    HW: 4F0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 335D-0A7568307
   Coding: 020000010000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 1D31C22904CC91F690B-8048

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 035 664 A    HW: 4L0 035 664 A
   Component: H-BN-NA       H47 0042  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 489E00A7532177
   Coding: 010200060004E3EF41002305EF6300030000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2959E6F940847D56EC3-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 F
   Component: NAR 2009/2010  5304 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4L0 910 609     HW: 4L0 919 611 B
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H05 0060 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 906 961 A
   Component: CD-Database  1293 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000010600354 
   Coding: 010E07204040230004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 43855451C2E88706C6F-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 4E0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 907 383 J    HW: 4E0 907 383 J
   Component: Anhaenger     H08 0070  
   Revision: 2A001001    Serial number: 00000129414550
   Coding: 0200000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 31690E9968540596243-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 441 B    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
   Revision: --H04---    Serial number: 525PA8-J0441A1
   Coding: 1021201
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2541EAC9EC9C5936C8B-8070

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 945     HW: 4L0 827 851 E
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H55 0500  
   Revision: --H55001    Serial number: E5030000B     
   Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
   VCID: ECD75FEDCFF6287ED75-80B9

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 946 
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H55 0500

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD06.05.10--H55001001B0058ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0058ÿ

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II        Labels: 4L0-910-290.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 290 A    HW: 4L0 907 290 A
   Component: ILM HINTEN 2    H05 0070  
   Revision: AAH05061    Serial number: 103774799-----
   Coding: 0003595
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2643EDC5919A522EC11-8073

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 A
   Component: J_245_EE16_SKB10H10 0220

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 A
   Component: J_394_EE16_SKB10H10 0220

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 A
   Component: J_392_EE16_SKB10H10 0220

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000010602095 
   Coding: 010E07204040230004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 43855451C2E88706C6F-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 283 C    HW: 4L0 919 283 C
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H02 0500  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 12631012008902
   Coding: 0231266
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2A5B19F58582764EE59-807F

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Last edited by a moderator:
   #2  

Jack@European_Parts

Gone But Not Forgotten
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
21,923
Reaction score
9,268
Location
Montgomery, NY, USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=57337
What does the service book or repair manual say?

www.erwin.audi.com

Personally I would like to see a status/reset button for all service resets oil/Urea green from AD blue............ In VCDS main screen, as part of broadcast, or auto-scan screen.
 
   #3  

barbarmi

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Sep 16, 2014
Messages
14
Reaction score
5
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=217814
Jack@European_Parts, The service manual doesn't say much, (nothing that I can find about adaptations etc.) That said, in prep for trying to get more help I downloaded the Measure Block file this morning and upon closer inspection the number in the Tank Cont field is not % but liters. When I looked at the file I could clearly see the number was 19.0 l not 19.01. so apparently the key-on 30+secs does reset the tank level. After topping off the tank and taking the car for a spin the value for the Tank Cont is 27.0 l which is a full tank (from my understanding) and the alarm is cleared. Still don't know why the alarm wouldn't clear last night, that symptom plus the short time between alarms makes me believe there is an issue (although I now know it isn't high AdBlue consumption).

My problem now is trying to understand why the AdBlue warning was on if I could only put ~12 liters of AdBlue in the tank. (unfortunately I didn't check the Tank Cont value before I filled the tank. The consumption seems about right (less than 1/2 a tank of AdBlue to go 4500 miles) but the alarm coming on is definitely not right.

Dutch VanAtlanta provided adaptation instructions (from before the software change) so when the frustration level goes down I'll have to go out and check the adaptation module values and compare them to the info for Dutch VanAtlanta.

Thanks for the interest and anyone have any ideas on the alarm issue would love to hear them.
 
   #4  

Jack@European_Parts

Gone But Not Forgotten
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
21,923
Reaction score
9,268
Location
Montgomery, NY, USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=57337
Okay then maybe check the sensor in the urea tank.
Check for resistance values being correct based on an evacuation and fill of the tank while being reset at different levels.
 
   #5  

barbarmi

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Sep 16, 2014
Messages
14
Reaction score
5
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=217814
ok, thanks

You happen to have a source (that I can access) for the acceptable resistance values for the sensor?
 
   #6  

Dana

Administrator
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
4,682
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Western PA, USA
Hello Michael,

The Readiness isn't set in the above scan so I dug and noticed this fault in a scan we had from you via email:

Code:
> Address 01: Engine (CAT)       Labels: None
>     Part No SW: 4L1 910 401 G    HW: 4L0 907 401 B
>     Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G004AG  0080
>     Revision: 31H04---    Serial number:
>     Coding: 0121002A190F0968
>     Shop #: WSC 09228 444 999999
>     VCID: 275DE0C196904B26FAD-8072
>
> 1 Fault Found:
> 005075 - Cylinder 2 Internal Pressure Sensor
>                 P13D3 - 004 - Implausible Signal
>               Freeze Frame:
>                      Fault Status: 01100100
>                      Fault Priority: 2
>                      Fault Frequency: 254
>                      Reset counter: 255
>                      Mileage: 93917 km
>                      Time Indication: 0
>                      Date: 2013.04.11
>                      Time: 15:09:07
>
>               Freeze Frame:
>                      RPM: 1386 /min
>                      Speed: 57.1 km/h
>                      Bin. Bits: 00100000
>                      Absolute Pres.: 34.0 bar
>                      (no units): -0.40
>                      Angle: 358.6 °
>                      (no units): 0.20
>
> Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

VW/Audi had a few issues and flash updates to correct Glow Plug/Pressure sensor, AdBlue, DPF and similar issues but the only TSB I happened to locate for this vehicle was pretty old:

TPI # 2025155/1
Release date: Jan 20, 2011
01 DTC Stored Inside Pressure Sensor Cylinder 2 or 5, Range/Performance P13D3, P13DC, Slightly Reduced Performance​

I want to believe yet another TPI and flash update is available so we can dig deeper if needed. In the meanwhile you may want to try the Adaptation Channel 080 trick but I would prefer to see an Adaptation Function Control Module Map first. (I couldn't find a PLA in our email history but we did have a PLB from you)
 
   #7  

Dana

Administrator
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
4,682
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Western PA, USA
Thanks for sending the maps!

I have 2 suggestions and the first would be easier:

1) Per the PLA file Adaptation Channel 080 reads:
A80,0,
;3
A80,1,
;
A80,2,
;00010001
A80,3,
;0.0
A80,4,
;0.0 %

I realize a single 1 was not accepted but please try to save a new value of 0001 (or some variant of that with preceding zeros).

The 2009/2010 VW Touareg 3.0L EDC17 reports a value of 0004 after 0001 is accepted so please let us know what happens if this controller allows you to save at all.​

Also, take a look at MVB 174 to see if it changes at all, perhaps from 00000011 -to- 00000100 after the Long Adaptation modification.​


2) If that was not possible or successful we can try the complete VW AdBlue Touareg Tech Tip style procedure. The AdBlue system must be full and the engine controller should be fault-free. If the system is malfunctioning (externally leaking and/or electrical malfunctions of system components in general) this procedure should NOT be used. This has fixed several Audi vehicles with our phone based support services but I'm not aware of an official Audi TSB or Tech Tip so I'd consider it experimental at best.

This involves removing a fuse for the AdBlue system (Reducing Agent system components) and those vary based on the vehicle and production date. Official Factory Repair Information can be obtained by using the appropriate erWin website.

In this particular case the NAR Q7 CCMA and CATA engines codes through May 2010 production happen to use Fuse S17 for the components in question:

Reducing Agent Metering System Pressure Sensor G686
Reducing Agent Pump V437
Reducing Agent Pump Heater Z103​

The VW Touareg used an entirely different fuse and the June 2010+ Q7 does as well

  • Remove the S17 fuse which should be located in the engine compartment, Driver's side Relay and fuse carrier.
  • Turn the ignition on and back off followed by reinstalling the fuse.
  • Turn the ignition back on and check Adaptation Channel 080 which should have a stored value of 3.
  • Save a new value of 0003 to that channel followed by another ignition cycle and clearing the new fault codes we set to see if the AdBlue warnings on the dash are resolved.
If the warning is not reset for any reason I would absolutely experiment with the new value of 0001 again.
 
Last edited:
   #8  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Dana, will you please explain the process for the 2010 Touareg? I have VCDS 12.12.3 installed and am having trouble finding the process for resetting the AdBlu warning.

If it comes down to it, which fuse would I remove for the Touareg?
 
   #9  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
34,572
Reaction score
24,622
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
Why do you think any reset is necessary? What fault codes do you have?

-Uwe-
 
   #10  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Why do you think any reset is necessary? What fault codes do you have?

-Uwe-

The AdBlue warning in the MFI is currently displaying that I have 300 miles before no start. The AdBlue tank was recently filled and is currently full.

I just purchased this vehicle from CT and drove it home to Detroit on Sat. Shortly after I left the used car dealership the AdBlue warning started a countdown at 450 miles, 400 miles, 350 miles, 300 miles but has not gone any lower. I'm completely locked out of the MFI display once it reached the 300 mile warning. I have driven probably close to 700 miles since the 300 mile warning has appeared which is concerning me to some degree as well. Shouldn't it have kept counting down and eventually prevented me from starting the vehicle? Not that I'm complaining about that. I'm glad I have still been able to drive without issue so far.

I'm new to Touareg's but have used VCDS for basic code resetting in the past with our other TDI's (B4 Passat, B5.5 Passat, 2012 Golf).

Here's a scan of the vehicle. I was able to clear the codes and they came back at every interval listed above. Once I reached the 300 mile warning and cleared the codes, no DTC's have reappeared, but the MFI has never reset the warning and continues to show 300 miles until no start.

Code:
Saturday,11,October,2014,15:21:32:03916
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140822


VIN: WVGAK7A94AD002442   License Plate: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: A9 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 2E 34 37 46 47 55 56 65 68
          69 6C 6D 6E 76 77

VIN: WVGAK7A94AD002442   Mileage: 143860km/89390miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6E-Ctrl Head Roof -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CAT)       Labels: 059-907-401-CAT1.clb
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 401 T    HW: 7L0 907 401 K
   Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G004AG  0090  
   Revision: 33H02---    Serial number: VWX3Z0I6903246
   Coding: 0421002A590F0D68
   Shop #: WSC 06485 444 10329
   VCID: 3C778E167C64EBFE875-5140

1 Fault Found:
008319 - Reductant Quality Performance 
               P207F - 000 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 143861 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.11
                    Time: 15:11:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2142 /min
                    Speed: 108.6 km/h
                    Voltage: 13.98 V
                    Temperature: 294.0°C
                    (no units): 0.00
                    (no units): 0.59
                    (no units): 1.06

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 LD    HW: 09D 927 750 LD
   Component: AL 750 6A           1569  
   Revision: 00H75000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0004984
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7BF54D0A39EA2CC6CEF-515E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25E1.clb
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 379 P    HW: 7L0 614 517 C
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0304  
   Revision: 00H53001    
   Coding: 0004482
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 4683ECFE35A8A12EE11-8013

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7L0 909 137 C    HW: 7L0 909 137 C
   Component: 2G Kessy            6850  
   Revision: 00H22072    Serial number: VWX3Z0I6903246
   Coding: 0147688
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3365A52A563A248656F-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
   Component: ELV                 2141

1 Fault Found:
00955 - Key 1 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.09
                    Time: 09:59:42


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 040 AL
   Component: CLIMAtronic R/L     4537  
   Coding: 0023030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7AFB480E31D015CED59-802F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 7Lx-937-049-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 937 049 AF    HW: 7L6 937 049 AF
   Component: J519                2004  
   Revision: -0004---    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 230008002F20BC000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 800FBAE6D70CCF1E1BD-80D5

1 Fault Found:
01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 7L0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L0 959 655 A    HW: 7L0 959 655 A
   Component: J234__0D VW8T       0270  
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 003C600186A3  
   Coding: 0012356
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3B758D0A7E6AECC68EF-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 F
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 4GSFX         

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A13BB2B80E1AB698B-8000

1 Fault Found:
01335 - Drivers Seat/Mirror Position Control Module (J543) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7L6.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 920 990 P    HW: 7L6 920 990 P
   Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    9833  
   Revision: KHH06V43    
   Coding: 0007201
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 4683ECFE31A8A12EE11-8013

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 143533 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.06
                    Time: 16:42:23


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7L6 920 990 P
   Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 9833  
   Coding: 7FE2F7DBCB846002
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: F0EFEA26E3ACDF9EEBD-80A5

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BG
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0126  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 8109BFE2DB06C616143-515E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667715813    
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 26434C7E51E8412EC11-8073

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
   Part No: 7L0 907 553 J
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3125  
   Coding: 0015521
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A7B880E7150D5CE959-806F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 684 B    HW: 7L6 035 684 B
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 0362  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7J5350059
   Coding: 000500000100002600
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 35619B329C4E3AB678B-8060

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 130280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.04.07
                    Time: 15:43:37

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52) 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 152
                    Mileage: 133167 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.03
                    Time: 15:27:12


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 959 933 A
   Component: 4M HSG              0601  
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 408FFAE6108C8F1EDBD-4B1C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 P
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 6304

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 P
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 6304

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 466 C    HW: 7L6 035 466 C
   Component: DSP 10 Kanal        0020  
   Revision: 00H06001    Serial number: 75835000859206
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3467A636573423BE4F5-8061

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 7L6-907-357-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 357 C    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0143  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1292483
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3B758D0A7E6AECC68EF-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
   Coding: 00000019

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
   Coding: 00000019

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 684 B    HW: 7L6 035 684 B
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 0362  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7J5350059
   Coding: 000500000100002600
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 35619B329C4E3AB678B-8060

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 130280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.04.07
                    Time: 15:43:37

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52) 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 152
                    Mileage: 133167 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.03
                    Time: 15:27:12


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 7L6-907-273.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 273 E    HW: 7L6 907 273 E
   Component: J0502 RDK           0006  
   Revision: 00004006    Serial number: 00000700015780
   Coding: 0040008F8F0000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A7B880E7150D5CE959-806F

1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 151
                    Mileage: 143533 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.09.15
                    Time: 00:00:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 77.0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
   Part No: 7L6 955 119 B
   Component: J400__ Front Wiper  5301  
   Coding: 0001397
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 397997027056DED69C3-806C

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     101209 054  0402  
   Coding: 00208941
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

1 Fault Found:
01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 N    HW: 7L0 907 383 N
   Component: J345  Anhaenger     0080  
   Revision: 4A008002    Serial number: 00000124445910
   Coding: 0016386
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8DF91A6A72F0E6A27-806A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 441 B    HW: 7L6 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0033  
   Revision: 00H13000    Serial number:    PA8 J9Y0189
   Coding: 0110001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3467A636573423BE4F5-8061

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7L6 959 107 B    HW: 7L6 959 107 B
   Component: J605  HECKKLAPPE    1310  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: --------049940
   Coding: 0122110
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A7B880E7150D5CE959-806F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof        Labels: 7L6-919-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 919 044 AD    HW: 7L6 919 044 AD
   Component: J702  Dachdisplay   0401  
   Revision: 1030006S    Serial number: 00000000138787
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 79F9570230D61ED6DC3-802C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
   Component: 0L Einparkhilfe     1108  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 397997027456DED69C3-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 5P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 729 E    HW: 1Z0 035 729 E
   Component: FSE_2P8x        H40 0190  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005158210
   Coding: 0012077
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A7B880E7550D5CE959-806F

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Last edited by a moderator:
   #11  

Dana

Administrator
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
4,682
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Western PA, USA
The AdBlue warning in the MFI is currently displaying that I have 300 miles before no start. The AdBlue tank was recently filled and is currently full.

I just purchased this vehicle from CT and drove it home to Detroit on Sat. Shortly after I left the used car dealership the AdBlue warning started a countdown at 450 miles, 400 miles, 350 miles, 300 miles but has not gone any lower. I'm completely locked out of the MFI display once it reached the 300 mile warning. I have driven probably close to 700 miles since the 300 mile warning has appeared which is concerning me to some degree as well. Shouldn't it have kept counting down and eventually prevented me from starting the vehicle? Not that I'm complaining about that. I'm glad I have still been able to drive without issue so far.

I'm new to Touareg's but have used VCDS for basic code resetting in the past with our other TDI's (B4 Passat, B5.5 Passat, 2012 Golf).

Here's a scan of the vehicle. I was able to clear the codes and they came back at every interval listed above. Once I reached the 300 mile warning and cleared the codes, no DTC's have reappeared, but the MFI has never reset the warning and continues to show 300 miles until no start.

Code:
Saturday,11,October,2014,15:21:32:03916
VIN: WVGAK7A94AD002442   Mileage: 143860km/89390miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CAT)       Labels: 059-907-401-CAT1.clb
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 401 T    HW: 7L0 907 401 K
   Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G004AG  0090  
   Revision: 33H02---    Serial number: VWX3Z0I6903246
   Coding: 0421002A590F0D68
   Shop #: WSC 06485 444 10329
   VCID: 3C778E167C64EBFE875-5140

1 Fault Found:
008319 - Reductant Quality Performance 
               P207F - 000 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 143861 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.11
                    Time: 15:11:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2142 /min
                    Speed: 108.6 km/h
                    Voltage: 13.98 V
                    Temperature: 294.0°C
                    (no units): 0.00
                    (no units): 0.59
                    (no units): 1.06

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1

OK, even though that DTC didn't reoccur I would say something is wrong with the system. If I had to guess they probably cleared DTCs before you purchased the vehicle. If you happen to have a pre-purchase Auto-Scan check to see what the Readiness Status was at that time ...even if faults weren't present.

1) It looks like a flash update applies to this EDC but I haven't dug for TSB 01-14-18 yet to see what it claims to correct. Either way, dealer level updates are a good thing even if this specific issues isn't addressed due to a mechanical or actual problem.

2) Please double check the Official Factory Repair Information for this vehicle but I believe Fuse S14 (E-Box, Driver's side) is the one in question. Providing that matches your research use the entire procedure I provided for the Q7 and simply substitute the fuse number. Any Adapt Ch 080 and MVB 174.1 feedback you happen to have would be appreciated.
 
   #12  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
34,572
Reaction score
24,622
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
I agree, there isn't anything that needs to get "Reset" here. Instead, the source of the "008319 - Reductant Quality Performance" DTC needs to be addressed. My sense with this DTC is that it's due either to bad reductant in the tank, or some issue with the reductant quality sensor.

Until the OP gets this sorted, he's going to need keep clearing that DTC. I believe the ECU will give him 600 more miles every time he clears it.

-Uwe-
 
   #13  

Jack@European_Parts

Gone But Not Forgotten
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
21,923
Reaction score
9,268
Location
Montgomery, NY, USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=57337
I almost have to wonder if someone has modified the car for programming.......prior to purchase......something to investigate and I think by a re-flash like Dana stated is advisable.

In addition to above.
I would experiment with variable resistors to that sensor to see if I can manipulate the DTC and isolate the problem with tools such as below.

vnuV2n.jpg
 
Last edited:
   #14  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Any Adapt Ch 080 and MVB 174.1 feedback you happen to have would be appreciated.

Is this what you're asking for? Sorry, still new to the terminology here.



 
   #15  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
I agree, there isn't anything that needs to get "Reset" here. Instead, the source of the "008319 - Reductant Quality Performance" DTC needs to be addressed. My sense with this DTC is that it's due either to bad reductant in the tank, or some issue with the reductant quality sensor.

Until the OP gets this sorted, he's going to need keep clearing that DTC. I believe the ECU will give him 600 more miles every time he clears it.

-Uwe-

I agree that it needs to be addressed and fixed, but I'd really like to get into the MFI so I can change some other settings. Having the 300 mile warning message off of the MFI would be helpful as well as that does not go away even when the DTC's are cleared.

I can find info all day long on 2011 +, but all the info I find for the 2010's is not really valid anymore. I don't have measuring values that go above 254.
 
Last edited:
   #16  

Dana

Administrator
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
4,682
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Western PA, USA
The 2009/2010 VW Touareg 3.0L EDC17 reports a value of 0004 after 0001 is accepted so please let us know what happens if this controller allows you to save at all.​

Also, take a look at MVB 174 to see if it changes at all, perhaps from 00000011 -to- 00000100 after the Long Adaptation modification.​
Is this what you're asking for? Sorry, still new to the terminology here.

Pic of Long Adapt 080 removed for space reasons but the New Value of 4 is confirmed

Pic of MVB 174.1 (measuring group 174, 1st field of display = .1) removed but the New Value of 00000100 was confirmed

Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for!

I agree, the issue needs to be diagnosed and fixed, but also understand that you need to be able to start the vehicle and move it (T'regs are beasts to push around). If the MFA threats weren't resolved and the EDC is still fault free... after the 1)st operation please move along to the advanced fuse pulling 2)nd steps in post #7.
 
   #17  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Thanks Dana! With your help and some help from Google, I found this procedure in an Elsa update and it worked. I'll keep an eye on it for a while and will report back with any updates / issues.

Just to clarify for anybody else who has to go through this, the fuse box with the S14 fuse is located on the driver side under the engine cowling in front of the windshield wipers. The fuses are labeled on the black plastic that holds the actual fuse.



 
   #18  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Now to start working on the other misc DTC's for this Touareg!
 
   #19  

Dana

Administrator
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
4,682
Reaction score
6,919
Location
Western PA, USA
Excellent, VW revised and re-revised that Tech Tip a handful of times but the most recent official copy I have very similar:

TT 26-1 1 -03 Date: June 3, 201 1
2009-2010 Touareg – AdBlue light on with Tank Full

I cannot post it here (Copyrighted material belonging to VW/Audi) but that photobucket link should be very helpful to others!
 
   #20  

Sprocket

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
23
Reaction score
24
Location
Detroit
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=162267
Now that the warning light is off I'd like to look at the measuring blocks to determine if the sensor is reading the correct fluid level in the AdBlue tank. Which measuring block should I be using? The info I've found online has measuring block #'s in the 500's & 600's. Mine only goes up to 254 in the standard measuring blocks and much less in the advanced measuring block section (can't remember the exact # at the moment).
 
Top