Auto start-stop behavior?

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I have a 2018 Atlas SEL Premium, with the 3.6L FSI V6. It comes with auto start-stop, like many cars these days. I seem to be part of a minority that actually likes the feature. Even though I know how to permanently disable it, I keep it on. But sometimes, start-stop doesn't kick in at a stop, and I don't clearly understand why, based on the reason given in the instrument cluster.

So my questions here are sort of the opposite of normal: how can I find out more about things that prevent start-stop from working?

  • "System/power needs": See this frequently. Sometimes it's obvious why (high electrical consumption, accessory demand, trailer hooked up, etc). Sometimes it's not. HVAC has its own category and it's clear when it's a HVAC demand.
  • "Traffic situation": See this every once in a while. Sometimes it's in stop-and-go traffic, but occasionally not. I can't figure out the criteria or inputs for this one. I feel like there has to be more than just too many back-to-back stops. Is there feedback from the forward camera for traffic, or traffic lights, or nav system intersection type feedback, or data from the nav's XM traffic data feed, or...?
I don't think my Atlas is misbehaving, I just want to better understand the system. I haven't yet found a good SSP or other reference that goes into deep detail.

Obligatory Auto-Scan:

Code:
Thursday,07,December,2017,19:37:07:43302
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4409.4
Data version: 20171026 DS285.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Southwest Ohio Luxobarge Rescue
Workshop Code: 444 08607 000001

VIN: 1V2NR2CA0JC502209   License Plate: 2018ATLAS
Mileage: 17064km-10603mi   Repair Order: BETA17110



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Chassis Type: CA-VW41 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 2B 36 3C 42 44 47 4B
          52 5F 69 6C 6D 75 A5 CA D6 D7

VIN: 1V2NR2CA0JC502209   Mileage: 17064km-10603miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (0-32-CDVC)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03H 906 026 J    HW: 03H 907 309 K
   Component: VR6 3.6l FSI  H20 4748  
   Revision: 52H20000    
   Coding: 012A003244740108B0000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 07645 128 28888
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM36FSI01103H906026J 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM36FSI01103H906026J.rod
   VCID: 2C020EDA7681A50113E7-8078

   CAN Converter 01: 

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 09G 927 158 A    HW: 09G 927 158 
   Component: AISIN AQ8     206 3387  
   Coding: 0000000100000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ450031 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ450031_VW27.rod
   VCID: 313C1FAE51A3C8E920B1-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CF    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AD
   Component: ESC           H25 0513  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 50697000000109
   Coding: 44FC6B8D84201A6EC5790300A2CC6922D62158A3C045967E38415058C2AA4200002F641C12141A118DDB45506CC8CF
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036.rod
   VCID: 77A8E1B6FF47D6D9AEF5-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435 E    HW: 3Q0 959 435 E
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    036 0811  
   Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 0430197433
   Coding: 0F2000070F
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004039
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 3C223E9A86E135818307-8068

   Sensor Controlled Power Rear Lid: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 962 243 B    HW: 3G0 962 243 B
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H17 0904 
   Serial number: 58006600            

2 Faults Found:
65794 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage 
          U1400 00 [008] - -
          [Function restriction due to temp low voltage]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 16725 km
                    Date: 2017.12.02
                    Time: 15:13:43

                    Terminal_15_Kessy_specified_value: On
                    Terminal_15_Kessy_actual_value: On
                    Terminal_15_central electric_actual_value: On
                    Terminal_15red_Kessy_specified_value: On
                    Terminal_15red_Kessy_actual_value: On
                    Terminal_S_Kessy_specified_value: On
                    Terminal_S_Kessy_actual_value: On
                    Terminal_S_central electric_actual_value: On
                    Terminal_50_Kessy_specified_value: On
                    Terminal_50_Kessy_actual_value: On
                    ZAT_pressed: On
                    Park selector lever position: Not engaged and not locked
                    Request active: Condition not met
                    Enabling Steering Column Lock: Condition not met
                    Enabling immobilizer: Condition met
                    No active error mode: Condition met
                    Key signature validity: Condition met
                    Control Module Voltage: 8.472 V
                    Driver information key position copy workshop: not active
                    Driver information: roll warning: not active
                    Driver information: emergency shutdown: not active
                    Internal_key_position: no_message
                    Driver information comfort switching: not active
                    Vehicle speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Engine speed: 0.0 /min
                    Status of vehicle locking: Vehicle unlocked
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Driver door: closed
                    Front Passenger Door: closed
                    Left rear door: closed
                    Right rear door: closed
                    Active_LF_scans: Init
                    ID sensor 1 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 2 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 3 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 4 authentication: status: No response
                    SPN_Byte 0: 00
                    SPN_Byte 1: 00
                    SPN_Byte 2: 00

14222592 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Message ELV_01 missing]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 16833 km
                    Date: 2017.12.05
                    Time: 00:11:57

                    Terminal_15_Kessy_specified_value: OFF
                    Terminal_15_Kessy_actual_value: OFF
                    Terminal_15_central electric_actual_value: Timeout
                    Terminal_15red_Kessy_specified_value: OFF
                    Terminal_15red_Kessy_actual_value: OFF
                    Terminal_S_Kessy_specified_value: OFF
                    Terminal_S_Kessy_actual_value: OFF
                    Terminal_S_central electric_actual_value: Timeout
                    Terminal_50_Kessy_specified_value: OFF
                    Terminal_50_Kessy_actual_value: OFF
                    ZAT_pressed: OFF
                    Park selector lever position: Engaged and locked
                    Request active: Condition not met
                    Enabling Steering Column Lock: Condition not met
                    Enabling immobilizer: Condition not met
                    No active error mode: Condition met
                    Key signature validity: Condition met
                    Control Module Voltage: 12.319 V
                    Driver information key position copy workshop: not active
                    Driver information: roll warning: not active
                    Driver information: emergency shutdown: not active
                    Internal_key_position: no_message
                    Driver information comfort switching: not active
                    Vehicle speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Engine speed: 0.0 /min
                    Status of vehicle locking: Vehicle unlocked
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Approach to the inside: not active
                    Actuation to the inside: not active
                    Approach to the outside: not active
                    Actuation to the outside: not active
                    Pulling actuation: outside door handle: not active
                    Coding information: coded
                    Driver door: closed
                    Front Passenger Door: closed
                    Left rear door: closed
                    Right rear door: closed
                    Active_LF_scans: Init
                    ID sensor 1 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 2 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 3 authentication: status: No response
                    ID sensor 4 authentication: status: No response
                    SPN_Byte 0: 00
                    SPN_Byte 1: 00
                    SPN_Byte 2: 00


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3CN 907 044 F    HW: 3CN 907 044 F
   Component: Climatronic   H05 1802  
   Revision: 00001K01    
   Coding: 1602062620001400110411101210150C
   Shop #: WSC 08607 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW416 002007
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW416.rod
   VCID: 42DE4062E4054371C9CB-8016

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Fresh Air Blower Back: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 BG    HW: 5Q0 937 085 BG
   Component: BCM MQBAB HNA H34 0236  
   Serial number: 7041011802ÿÿÿÿ
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 7F580996D777EE99E6A5-802A

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 555     HW: 5Q0 955 555 
   Component: RLHSS  046 0120 
   Serial number: S6Y17M01D31H15M40S26
   Coding: 00B86D

   Garage door opener control module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4M0 907 410 A    HW: 4M0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL5  H04 0050 
   Serial number: 0000009600335Z363302
   Coding: 150000

   Garage Door Opener Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3CN 959 719     HW: 3CN 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H06 0007 
   Serial number: 8MW00117011700010527

   Seat Backrest Fan 1 Front Left: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 3G0 963 345     HW: 3G0 963 345 
   Component: SysNameFanLin  014 0101 
   Serial number: ESE0163999          

   Seat Cushion Fan 1 Front Left: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 3G0 963 345     HW: 3G0 963 345 
   Component: SysNameFanLin  014 0101 
   Serial number: ESE0164122          

   Seat Backrest Fan 1 Front Right: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 3G0 963 345     HW: 3G0 963 345 
   Component: SysNameFanLin  014 0101 
   Serial number: ESE0182946          

   Seat Cushion Fan 1 Front Right: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 3G0 963 345     HW: 3G0 963 345 
   Component: SysNameFanLin  014 0101 
   Serial number: ESE0246621          

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 298 B    HW: 5QA 919 298 A
   Component: PLA 3.0 12KH07 0038  
   Serial number: 000308417617023
   Coding: 0271667151
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 009032
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4FF879562757BE195645-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 H    HW: 3QF 907 572 
   Component: ACC BOSCH MQB H10 0620  
   Coding: 320007C959FFC728949C810530401600000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416 002005
   ROD: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416.rod
   VCID: 3C223E9A86E135818307-8068

1 Fault Found:
0836 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          [FAULT_PREDICTIVE_ROUTEDATA_SIGNALERROR_RECEIVED]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 66
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Mileage: 16662 km
                    Date: 2017.11.30
                    Time: 11:53:17

                    Control Module temperature: 30 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 13.2 V
                    Velocity_vehicle_reference: 1.55 m/s
                    Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 0.27 m/s²
                    Status_ACC_System: ACC_Off_MainSwitch_Off


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 BC    HW: 3Q0 959 655 BC
   Component: Airbag VW21   004 0503  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003SUM49OKEP
   Coding: 8CCCDC00000000005000001A420800000065
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW21TS6VW48X 001014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW21TS6VW48X.rod
   VCID: 005A8A6AAA8991619F5F-8054

   Occupant Detection: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: Occ.Detection  H13 0022 
   Serial number: IBH0000J170006OQEB0P
   Coding: 303030

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 601 17
   Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
   Serial number: 35700000000E643DB12Q
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 601 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
   Serial number: 35800000000B843DB12Q
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 801 002 17
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  301 0148 
   Serial number: 35100BE8B0F0F000000/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 301 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  301 0148 
   Serial number: 352009E26BE0E000000.
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 812 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  304 0149 
   Serial number: 35500DCF80E0E0000003
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 812 16
   Component: FrontSensor_P  304 0149 
   Serial number: 35600FAFB0E0E0000007
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 JF    HW: 5Q0 953 549 D
   Component: Lenks. Modul  004 0140  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 11011704400586
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 03508566BB9F8A79827D-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:* None-SRI3
   Part No SW: 3CN 920 891 A    HW: 3CN 920 891 A
   Component: KOMBI         404 3192  
   Coding: 03A50F1DEF88CF0502887F0B5001000320000000
   Shop #: WSC 08607 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42DE4062E4054371C9CB-8016

1 Fault Found:
16777020 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
          U1110 00 [008] - -
          [BAP_TEL_0x28 keine Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 16644 km
                    Date: 2017.11.30
                    Time: 11:32:59


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 C    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   515 5286  
   Serial number: 20021700840033
   Coding: 0B0500347F087300FB0722581E0F00010000070000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW27.rod
   VCID: 2F3819D64797DE193685-807A

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 R    HW: 5G0 959 442 R  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H17 0040 
   Serial number: 29160001817810016366
   Coding: 36FFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 D    HW: 5QA 915 181 D
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
   Serial number: 6858452904          

   Power Converter DC AC: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 3CN 907 155     HW: 3CN 907 155 
   Component: U13DCAC  H23 0860 
   Serial number: 0001255             

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083  
   Serial number: HA1-00002.12.16
   Coding: 0301
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_004.rod
   VCID: 4ACE6842DC359B3101BB-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861     HW: 3Q0 905 861 
   Component: ELV-MQBB      H05 0032  
   Serial number: 17000007942012
   Coding: 0800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB.rod
   VCID: 71BCDFAE912388E96031-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J810)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 760 B    HW: 5Q0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory    H08 0021  
   Serial number: Y0006PL516752
   Coding: 0010000000000500018280808080000000008100000000F400
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide 002021
   ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide_VW41.rod
   VCID: 3C223E9A86E135818307-8068

1 Fault Found:
13893632 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage 
          U1400 00 [008] - -
          [Funktionseinschränkung durch Unterspannung --> funktionelle Einschränkungen aufgrund vorübergehender Unterspannung in der Versorgung.]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 16793 km
                    Date: 2017.12.04
                    Time: 19:29:29


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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0071  
   Serial number: 0427420305
   Coding: 02012103
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3C223E9A86E135818307-8068

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE_Slave  H12 0071 
   Serial number: 0427017983          
   Coding: 020121

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
   Serial number: 27121606050HIT
   Coding: 003F1B205200020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D04566FB1F4A79C2FD-8016

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000005469691
   Coding: 011000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-143.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 143 P    HW: 5Q0 909 143 E
   Component: MQB_PP_APA    204 2051  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 0001417184
   Coding: 01010311004001
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBA 009129
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBA_009_VW41.rod
   VCID: 40DA4A6AEA095161DFDF-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 5Q0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 035 456     HW: 5Q0 035 456 
   Component: MIB2_lite_amp H30 0150  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1GBA02RF4C
   Coding: 2214060002A00A2A000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst12C3Gen2ALPI 001001
   ROD: EV_AMPMst12C3Gen2ALPI.rod
   VCID: 6D84C3DE8D1B6C094419-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module (J745)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 338     HW: 3Q0 907 338 
   Component: FCM MQB Low   001 0286  
   Serial number: 14021700840110
   Coding: 000000070100135200010000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X 001010
   ROD: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X.rod
   VCID: 72BED0A29425B3F1992B-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 221216060500N8
   Coding: 003F13205E00020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE4062E4054371C9CB-8016

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000005472451
   Coding: 091000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3QF 035 876     HW: 3QF 035 876 
   Component: MU-S-NS-US    840 0755  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 021406020000000051220002001808001F0500E401200005CE
   Shop #: WSC 08607 444 00002
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW27.rod
   VCID: 074891768FA7A659DE15-8052

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 D    HW: 5G6 919 605 D
   Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H40 8074 
   Serial number: VWZ6ZDT0050741      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 BB    HW: -----------
   Component: NAR 2017  --- 0525 
   Serial number: --------------------

1 Fault Found:
1637 - Interface for External Media 
          U11B8 00 [008] - No Communications
          [USB - communication error]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 16833 km
                    Date: 2017.12.05
                    Time: 00:13:01

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
                    Interface for external media: status-Status: Open circuit


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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383 L    HW: 5Q0 907 383 L
   Component: Anhaenger     H27 0260  
   Revision: 8C001004    Serial number: 0430201804
   Coding: 0200000200000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella 001008
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella_VW26.rod
   VCID: 40DA4A6AEA095161DFDF-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J928)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 556 B    HW: 5Q0 907 556 
   Component: Areaview 2    H13 0607  
   Serial number: C854707JG008159
   Coding: 01140604A30F20000000400C
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVAV2ARCE2MQBAB 006017
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVAV2ARCE2MQBAB.rod
   VCID: 382A228AB2D919A1676F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 L    HW: 5Q0 959 107 J
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H13 0261  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
   Coding: 0988
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001014
   ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW27.rod
   VCID: 41DC4F6EE1035869D0D1-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
   Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0570  
   Coding: 02140602C2823A017F1E06020000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
   ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
   VCID: 43D04566FB1F4A79C2FD-8016

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 G    HW: 3Q0 980 654 
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H06 0231  
   Serial number: 15011712K20431
   Coding: 000401060001020100221355C050890084000E200020
   Shop #: WSC 08607 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW27.rod
   VCID: 3B203D8683EF32B98A0D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address CA: Sunroof (J245)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 594 J    HW: 4M0 907 594 
   Component: SAD_STG_1     013 0005  
   Coding: 00804074160C
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736.rod
   VCID: 3D24339E9DFB3C89B439-8068

No fault code found.

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Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2 (A31)       Labels: 7P5-941-591.clb
   Part No SW: 7P5 941 591 AA    HW: 7P5 941 591 A
   Component: LED1L         H06 0003  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LED_PLUS_L_KEBODAVW416 001003
   ROD: EV_LED_PLUS_L_KEBODAVW416.rod
   VCID: 7BA0FD86C36FF2B9CA8D-802E

1 Fault Found:
0800 - Bulb for Low-Beam Headlamp 
          U4F5256 F6 [040] - Over-Temp Protection Active
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 16602 km
                    Date: 2017.11.29
                    Time: 23:32:19


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2 (A27)       Labels: 7P5-941-591.clb
   Part No SW: 7P5 941 591 AA    HW: 7P5 941 591 A
   Component: LED1R         H06 0003  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LED_PLUS_R_KEBODAVW416 001003
   ROD: EV_LED_PLUS_R_KEBODAVW416.rod
   VCID: 7BA0FD86C36FF2B9CA8D-802E

1 Fault Found:
0800 - Bulb for Low-Beam Headlamp 
          U4F5256 F6 [040] - Over-Temp Protection Active
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 16602 km
                    Date: 2017.11.29
                    Time: 23:32:19


End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:21, VBatt start/end: 14.7V/14.7V)-----------
 
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Have you tried the history data function in 19, and then interpreting it with Niels' toolbox (Analyze button)?
 
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There is some information if you search for "stop" in measvalues in [19].
There is an older SSP #426 (VW).
Often when start/stop does not work in my VW Up, it is because of battery charge level.
I also like start/stop ;)
From a history file, when your car brand new, there was "consumer current high".

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^^^ I know absolutely nothing about the 2018 Atlas SEL Premium, with the 3.6L FSI V6. I had to google it- it looks like a very nice (big?) car. Anyhow, a couple of sites that I visited, mentioned that the Atlas was built on the MQB platform. This being the case, I wonder if the Atlas might have the same feature that exists on its smaller MQB cousin (mk7) that tells the driver exactly why SS isn't engaging. It's a screen that is accessible from the MIB and it looks like this:

hK8DDU7.png


So - each of the items on the list above is a reason why SS is not engaging -the list is updated each time that the car is stopped and SS is enabled. Notice the "human-head" symbol next to some entries - these are factors that are at the digression of the driver. Incidentally, the first entry in the list is the message that appears because of the coding tweak to disable SS - which as you will know, works by fooling the module into thinking that the temperature is too high (the temperature method), or that the voltage is too low to restart the car (voltager method).

Does the Atlas have a similar screen?

Don
 
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Sorry Don, I meant I wonder why not having the seatbelt fastened would be a plausible reason for Start/Stop to disengage?
 
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Sorry Don, I meant I wonder why not having the seatbelt fastened would be a plausible reason for Start/Stop to disengage?

hmm......... you certainly do ask the big questions!!! Good thinking - I'm not sure. Perhaps the logic is that if the car has been automatically stopped by SS and the driver subsequently unfastened her seat-belt to get out of the car, SS is prohibited from restarting the engine when the driver takes her foot off the brake pedal. But I'm guessing!!

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Have you tried the history data function in 19, and then interpreting it with Niels' toolbox (Analyze button)?
I have not. I didn't realize that was part of the stored history. That seems like a good next step for understanding more detail behind the "system/power needs" catchall.

There is some information if you search for "stop" in measvalues in [19].
There is an older SSP #426 (VW).
Often when start/stop does not work in my VW Up, it is because of battery charge level.
I also like start/stop ;)
From a history file, when your car brand new, there was "consumer current high".
Battery charge level makes sense sometimes, but I've gone on relatively long drives where I notice it persistently. I'll even have highway drives where I come to a stop at the end of an offramp and still have "system/power needs" pop up. I suppose it's possible there's some alternator DF programming to lower output at cruise, to try to hit a fuel mileage goal. Anyway, I'll get a battery history dump tonight and post it here.
 
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... I wonder if the Atlas might have the same feature that exists on its smaller MQB cousin (mk7) that tells the driver exactly why SS isn't engaging. It's a screen that is accessible from the MIB and it looks like this:
I haven't seen any way to get that info from the MIB, but I do always see one reason (not multiple) shown in the instrument cluster. I can see things like seatbelt unbuckled, traffic situation, HVAC needs, and the ubiquitous system/power needs.

...works by fooling the module into thinking that the temperature is too high (the temperature method), or that the voltage is too low to restart the car (voltager method).
I've verified my Atlas responds to the well-known "voltage" tweak, if applied. I have it at the factory default.
 
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A couple days ago, when Googling this again using slightly different terms, I ran across an interesting Atlas "selling points" document that has a lot of detail.

https://www.vwwebsource.com/content...ing-Points-Final.pdf?pdf=Selling-Points-atlas

Pages 7 and 8 are highly informative. In particular, it led me to figure out the triggering condition for "traffic situation". It's what prevents auto-stop from kicking in repeatedly when very slowly creeping forward in traffic or other fine maneuvering. The vehicle has to exceed 2MPH since the last auto-stop in order to be eligible again. Over the weekend I verified that slow-creep does correlate with the "traffic situation" displayed reason, it's repeatable.

Side note: for being a dealer-only site, vwwebsource.com sure does leak a lot of open-linkable content to Google's index. Probably unintentional on their part. Interesting stuff. Be sure to go past the first page or two.
 
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^^^ I know absolutely nothing about the 2018 Atlas SEL Premium, with the 3.6L FSI V6. I had to google it- it looks like a very nice (big?) car. Anyhow, a couple of sites that I visited, mentioned that the Atlas was built on the MQB platform. This being the case, I wonder if the Atlas might have the same feature that exists on its smaller MQB cousin (mk7) that tells the driver exactly why SS isn't engaging. It's a screen that is accessible from the MIB and it looks like this:

hK8DDU7.png


So - each of the items on the list above is a reason why SS is not engaging -the list is updated each time that the car is stopped and SS is enabled. Notice the "human-head" symbol next to some entries - these are factors that are at the digression of the driver. Incidentally, the first entry in the list is the message that appears because of the coding tweak to disable SS - which as you will know, works by fooling the module into thinking that the temperature is too high (the temperature method), or that the voltage is too low to restart the car (voltager method).

Does the Atlas have a similar screen?

Don
Good afternoon @DV52 .... do you know if this can be enabled though adaptations?

I changed the following:

ENG122229-ENG117762-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-Start_Stop_reasons_0x27 => activated
ENG122229-ENG117763-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-Start_Stop_reasons_0x27_msg_bus => Comfort Data Bus
ENG122227-ENG117676-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Start_Stop_reasons => activated
ENG122227-ENG117678-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Start_Stop_reasons_over_threshold_high => activated

But nothing on the VC and nothing on the MMI.

Where do you find that screen? :)
 
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Good afternoon @DV52 .... do you know if this can be enabled though adaptations?
hmm.........not sure for a yanky Atlas - but on the version of Golf mk7 that we get down in the very deep south :), the screens are enabled by this (I think):

  • ENG122227-ENG117676-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Start_Stop_reasons > activated
  • ENG122227-ENG117678-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Start_Stop_reasons_over_threshold_high> activated

Where do you find that screen? :)

Here's a copy of the instruction-set that I thieved from an early post of mine ( on my local Aussie forum) - it was written for a Golf mk7:
  1. With the car running, press the Car button on the escutcheon plate around the MIB center screen.
  2. The following screen should come-up. If you get this screen, press the area of the screen circled

    . Mk7 Stop/Start System - Issues and Questions-stop_start_1-png .


    If the screen above does not appear when the "Car" button is pressed, then you will probably get something like the following screen
    .
    Mk7 Stop/Start System - Issues and Questions-stop_start_2-png
    .
    If this happens, press the "View" panel at the bottom LHS (you can just see it in the pic) and then press the "Vehicle Status" panel that I have circled (with a rectangle) . Then go to step 2 above.
    .​
  3. After Step 2, the following screen appears showing why stop/start is not working. What's great about this screen is that the entries update in real-time (well almost real time - it actually updates after a scanning period)!
    .
    . Mk7 Stop/Start System - Issues and Questions-stop_start_3-png
Don
 
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