Jetta Mk6 TDI (2014) Cluster Upgrade

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I have a cluster from a 2012 European Jetta TDI that I have tried out in a NAR 2014 Jetta TDI. The first 7 digits of the part number is the same in both clusters.

I was wondering if you can soft code the new cluster prior to visiting the dealer and getting the immobilizer done? I know I could auto scan and see the cluster but I couldn't connect to it when selecting address 17. The cluster seemed to work and showed what door was opened or closed in the vehicle.
 
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You should be able to communicate to the 17-Instrument cluster and code/adapt it prior to the Immo matching but the ABS brake module may dump/zero its coding when the VIN is missing. If you have any questions or concerns post the original Auto-Scan with the original cluster installed and another with the new unit installed.
 
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Hi Dana,

Below is my scan, got the cluster working but haven't been able to get rid of the immobilizer errors, is this something I will need the VW dealer for? The car runs except I got these errors.


Code:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 KD    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  5680  
   Revision: 12H16---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0050072
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDFF4806DAA1A6AA7-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492300FD850B02E492200042A4100022
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   VCID: 7EF3EA6CE9E090EEE91-802B

2 Faults Found:
03391 - Coding Not Possible 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 50126 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.14.27
                    Time: 18:49:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 8254
                    Count: 49408
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 255
                    Count: 0

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 50126 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.14.27
                    Time: 18:49:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 8211
                    Count: 49408
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 255
                    Count: 0


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
   Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0194747576
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 93777 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G.rod
   VCID: 346708449F2C8ABE4F5-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BN    HW: 5C0 820 047 BN
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
   Revision: 2001001S    Serial number: 00000001982086
   Shop #: WSC 93777 999 120643
   VCID: 6DD1DD2074861B7640B-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013025141006
   Coding: 7B994BBF48230F0009382000248896C50082502E6000000030A010002000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 34670844972C8ABE4F5-8061

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 160612 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 072B21

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
   Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
   Serial number: 003MVD02YEA0  
   Coding: 00004138
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 74E7C844DFACCABE8F5-8021

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y14000116JK0J
   Coding: 303042

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME4F142C40ZZZZ

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME2820647FZZZ 

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME5C2E5B29ZZZ6

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME161C5B29ZZZ.

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME59567B29ZZZ5

   Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME17467B29ZZZ%

1 Fault Found:
12674816 - Immobilizer Control Module 
          U0167 00 [009] - No Communications
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 50126 km
                    Date: 2010.14.27
                    Time: 18:40:32


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 872 A    HW: 5C6 920 872 A
   Component: KOMBI         H07 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 171E01
   Shop #: WSC 05334 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 2B5513384212D5461EF-807E

2 Faults Found:
12666368 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1

12671232 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: F0EF445423B4769EEBD-80A5

1 Fault Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 50126 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.14.27
                    Time: 18:42:17


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H07 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 48455 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EADB563C0D688C4EA59-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 13000280355005
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 306F04546B34B69E2BD-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7665603069    
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
   VCID: 2B5513384A12D5461EF-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 M    HW: 1K0 035 274 M
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H76 0410  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2N0578639
   Coding: 04090041010006000000100A
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 2E531A2C7100A06E391-807B

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V5N  0046 

1 Fault Found:
1048669 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
          B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 50126 km
                    Date: 2010.14.27
                    Time: 18:33:52


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 39793970704E77D69C3-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 5C6 035 456 A
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6815  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098A0105195
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
   VCID: 2643E20C59F0E82EC11-8073

No fault code found.
 
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Something looks very wrong with this scan and I don't know if dealer matching is going to resolve those Immo conflicts... or if it will even be possible for them to match it.

Please post the factory configuration (or pre cluster modification) scan and let us know what VIN is currently reported with the new cluster installed (it is clipped out of the one in post #3). Also, is that a new or used Euro market cluster?
 
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The new cluster doesn't communicate with some modules. The "missing" faults. Seems like also your ABS is too old for this cluster.
 
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Does anyone know what this message pertains to:

12666368 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1

What kind of message is this referring to?
 
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Something looks very wrong with this scan and I don't know if dealer matching is going to resolve those Immo conflicts... or if it will even be possible for them to match it.

Please post the factory configuration (or pre cluster modification) scan and let us know what VIN is currently reported with the new cluster installed (it is clipped out of the one in post #3). Also, is that a new or used Euro market cluster?
Dana, the vehicle runs with this used euro cluster and the keys have already been matched by VW dealer. The VIN# is the same between the two clusters.

Below is the original scan (pre cluster modification):

Code:
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2
Data version: 20140212

Saturday,18,October,2014,15:48:30:06117

Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 44 47 56

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 KD    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  5680  
   Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0050072
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDFF4806DAA1A6AAD-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492300FD850B02E492200042A4100022
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   VCID: 7EF3EA6CE9E090EEE9B-802B

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
   Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0194747576
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G.rod
   VCID: 346708449F2C8ABE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BN    HW: 5C0 820 047 BN
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
   Revision: 2001001S    Serial number: 00000001982086
   Shop #: WSC 93777 999 120643
   VCID: 6DD1DD2074861B76401-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013025141006
   Coding: 7B994BBF48230F0009382000248886C50082502E6000000030A010002000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 34670844972C8ABE4FF-8061

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 160612 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0750CD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
   Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
   Serial number: 003MVD02YEA0  
   Coding: 00004138
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 74E7C844DFACCABE8FF-8021

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y14000116JK0J
   Coding: 303042

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME4F142C40ZZZZ

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME2820647FZZZ 

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME5C2E5B29ZZZ6

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME161C5B29ZZZ.

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME59567B29ZZZ5

   Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME17467B29ZZZ%

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 853 A    HW: 5C6 920 853 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0809  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 370E01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 2A5B163C4DE8CC4EE53-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411  
   Revision: B2034001    
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: F0EF445423B4769EEB7-80A5

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0809  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EADB563C0D688C4EA53-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 13000280355005
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 306F04546B34B69E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7665603069    
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
   VCID: 2B5513384A12D5461E5-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 M    HW: 1K0 035 274 M
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H76 0410  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2N0578639
   Coding: 04090041010006000000100A
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 2E531A2C7100A06E39B-807B

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V5N  0046 

1 Fault Found:
1048669 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
          B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 189
                    Mileage: 18880 km
                    Date: 2007.14.31
                    Time: 15:14:35


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 39793970704E77D69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 3T0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 A    HW: 5C6 035 456 A
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6815  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098A0105195
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
   VCID: 2643E20C59F0E82EC1B-8073

No fault code found.

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Does anyone know the location of the can gateway module?
 
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Well... isn't this one cool picture?
 
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Yes it is a nice picture, but from the autoscan, it should be in the Central electric [09].
It is left to steering column, with 2 big connectors.
 
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My fault, I didn't notice that is 5C0 :(
 
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Thanks gentlemen! lol yeah I wish I had a gateway exactly where that picture show it to be! But the spot where the gateway should be is simply empty under the dash.

Does this mean that the gateway is integrated into the BCM/Central electric [09] module?
 
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Thanks gentlemen! lol yeah I wish I had a gateway exactly where that picture show it to be! But the spot where the gateway should be is simply empty under the dash.

Does this mean that the gateway is integrated into the BCM/Central electric [09] module?
Like NEtech said, yes.
 
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Like NEtech said, yes.
Would you guys know if its possible to just disconnect the built-in gateway portion? I noticed there are 3 pairs of connections to the BCM PQ25, as per the link below:

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45650

Is one of these the gateway itself?
18 - Powertrain CAN, low
19 - Powertrain CAN, high
20 - Convenience CAN, high
21 - Convenience CAN, low
22 - Diagnosis CAN, low
23 - Diagnosis CAN, high

If so, I could disconnect it and install an actual real gateway?
 
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I don't think that would work out.
 
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Hi All,

To give an update, I got the car now running on a PQ35 platform. Did an upgrade from PQ25 to PQ35, didn't swap the harness but rewired. Added/swapped some modules etc. I used the Jetta GLi 2015 BCM and all works fine with PQ25 cluster.

One issue that has come up, is upgrading to the full MFD cluster. Although the cluster was tested and worked on PQ25 platform, now the dealer is having issues with swapping the cluster.

Essentially what they do is the following:
1) Ignition is turned ON
2) Copy config from old cluster
3) Ignition is turned OFF
4) Cluster is swapped
5) Ignition is turned ON
6) Config is wirtten to new cluster

The issues is that they can't get past item 4) above, because once you swap the cluster the ignition won't turn ON. They press the start button, and the cluster just shows 'NO KEY'. Does anyone know what the dealer is doing wrong, because obviously it doesn't make sense. I asked if they had something for matching cluster to KESSY, and they weren't aware of anything.

If they use the original cluster to power up ignition, and then swap cluster with ignition ON, the process goes through with no errors. After, you try to turn ignition ON with start button again, you get 'NO KEY' message. There seems to be something missing here, and its pointing towards KESSY which is working fine with old cluster and worked with new cluster on PQ25.

Fyi, on PQ25 I went from old cluster to new cluster, and back to old cluster. Now I am on PQ35 and want to go to the new cluster.

Feedback is appreciated.
 
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Swap cluster is easy via Dealer if all is genuine and right. ODIS / VAS is checking FAZIt data in ECU, cluster (if you have) and ELV. Dealer upload from server only few data to cluster , and other data is synchro while adaptation, that is why old cluster will not longer work. And every time they synchronize another cluster , previously will not work
if you dont have working cluster due to stolen for example, ODIS use differnet procedure, but also need to check all other available FAZIT data in controlers.
if you for example ever add NON genuine KEy , you will lost them while ODIS update .
 
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Thanks Spacewalker!

All hardware and keys are OEM original.

To confirm, my understanding is the following: (Battery stays connected throughout the whole procedure)
1) Unlock vehicle, ignition is OFF
2) They swap clusters
3) Use fault finding with ODIS/VAS (Assuming that the appropriate modules will be ON on CAN-BUS)
4) Once fault is found, resolve each fault (I am assuming that there will be an IMMO fault or something to sync cluster)
5) Upload from server 'only', all data (They tried to copy from old cluster, and the clusters are different, so maybe here was the problem)

Could you please confirm the above, and adjust. I would like to provide them with a list.

Could you also comment, at what point should the cluster power up with KESSY. With standard tumbler keylock, apparently its easy they just turn the key. Here nothing will turn ON initially when you swap the cluster, and press the START button to turn ON the ignition.

Thanks!
 
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Just to confirm - your old (genuine) configuration was PQ25 with Kessy ?
I am asking because I never see in PQ25 platform ELV
 
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