2009 VW Tiguan SEL -- Radiator Fan Faults

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VCDS is pulling the following fault on radiator fan (#2).

I had local shop to a brief "inspection" and they could not find issue.

Can I ignore this fault or should I find a new shop?

I must say that the right-hand radiator fan is running excessively after ignition OFF following routine driving around town (when looking in engine bay from front bumper).

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks -GA

Code:
Wednesday,13,September,2017,10:37:47:06705
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


Chassis Type: 5N-VW36 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 36 37 42 44 46 47 4F 52
          53 55 56 62 65 6C 72 77

VIN: WVGBV7xxxxxx   Mileage: 113490km-70519miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 997 026 M    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
   Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    0609 
   Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0I13N47SF
   Coding: 0423010A190F0160
   Shop #: WSC 32343 001 1048576
   VCID: 3E2637076C7616E7696-806A

2 Faults Found:
006472 - Control Module 2 for Cooling Fan
               P1948 - 000 - Output Short Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 107
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 110412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:58:27

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3005 /min
                    Load: 51.0 %
                    Speed: 76.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 96.0°C
                    Temperature: 55.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 830.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.462 V

006481 - Radiator Fan 2 (V177)
               P1951 - 000 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 41
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 110626 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:46:58

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2290 /min
                    Load: 45.1 %
                    Speed: 70.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 93.0°C
                    Temperature: 47.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 840.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.716 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 KM    HW: 09G 927 750 KM
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1394 
   Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 06569FE774268E27616-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 N    HW: 5N0 614 517 N
   Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0008 
   Revision: --H13---    Serial number: 00000001758093
   Coding: 0002332
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 392C241B755831DF5C4-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 DE    HW: 1K0 907 044 DE
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 133 1213 
   Revision: 00133024    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6D84C04B71905D7F80C-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000009375772
   Coding: F78C8FA340041C004719000014000000002AF7475C400125420000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 333016335734CB8F968-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 130209  012 0203 
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 01357 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     180209 046  0204 
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 01357 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 K    HW: 5N0 959 655 K
   Component: J234__200 VW10 HI   1916 
   Revision: 20013000    Serial number: 003E3P0NNBFV 
   Coding: 0012336
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 45D458EB09A0453F28C-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0004

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000003HGX

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0028.01.090000100000660084ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 660084ÿ†6332MTS667090069 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 90069 ÿ†6342MTS687430099 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 30099 ÿ†6351HTS6E67QV5KR ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: QV5KR ÿ†6361HTS6US8006KR ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 006KR ÿ†63727TS6N4I106KR ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 106KR ÿ†63827TS6KM4TV5KJ ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: TV5KJ ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           055 0111 
   Coding: 0001332
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7AAEFB1730DEFAC715E-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           002 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 970 F    HW: 5N0 920 970 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2422 
   Revision: V0005000    Serial number: VWX7Z0I13N47SF
   Coding: 0007204
   Shop #: WSC 01357 067 57207
   VCID: 3432152F523ACCB78F2-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 T    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H06 0071 
   Revision:   H06 01    Serial number: 090109F2000655
   Coding: FD83FF07504613006002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 382A211F4E5228D7A3A-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 C    HW: 0AY 907 554 C
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0041 
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4BC06ED32FC4B34FFE8-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 970 F    HW: 5N0 920 970 F
   Component: IMMO            VDD 2422 
   Revision: V0005000    Serial number: VWX7Z0I13N47SF
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3432152F523ACCB78F2-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0084 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667359650   
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2616FF6798E6AE27016-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 760 A    HW: 5N0 959 760 A
   Component: MEM-FS        H04 0032 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001220546
   Coding: 20581300000044440011
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 382A211F425228D7A3A-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 4366 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L9337042
   Coding: 04050002010000A7000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A0E0B578CFE8A4725E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859
   Component: NAR V11  8407

3 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 103
                    Mileage: 110400 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:47:42

01550 - Signal for Reverse Gear
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 230
                    Mileage: 110407 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:43:53

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 103
                    Mileage: 110407 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:43:57


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 C    HW: 5N0 959 701 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         008 2005 
   Coding: 0005567
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3534282B5940D5BFB8C-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J    HW: 5N1 909 148 F
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.097 0502 
   Revision: 1AH02271    Serial number: 00083450053202
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 392C241B755831DF5C4-806C

1 Fault Found:
00566 - Steering Assistance Operation
            008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 94733 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:03:38

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x5301
                    Hex Value: 0x4301
                    Hex Value: 0x1B01
                    Hex Value: 0x5601
                    Hex Value: 0x4601


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 DA    HW: 1K0 959 433 DA
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0225 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1B80078852834C7F7F02058FB0888F0C88DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 72BED33768AE82875DE-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 456     HW: 5K0 035 456
   Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06 0316 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP218187354288
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1.rod
   VCID: 6788B2635FEC772FFA0-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J533)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H06 0071 
   Revision:   H06 01    Serial number: 090109F2000655
   Coding: 050B0500
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6696BF6758666E27C16-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591     HW: 8R0 959 591
   Component: J245EE16SKB10  H01 0180
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591     HW: 8R0 959 591
   Component: J394EE16SKB10  H01 0180
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 C    HW: 5N0 959 702 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         008 2005 
   Coding: 0005566
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 36362F274446DEA7B16-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005 
   Revision:   H09       Serial number: 00000000193006
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2E060747BC16E667F96-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0142 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1352902
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3432152F523ACCB78F2-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004 
   Coding: 00000020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004 
   Coding: 00000020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 4366 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L9337042
   Coding: 04050002010000A7000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A0E0B578CFE8A4725E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859
   Component: NAR V11  8407

3 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 103
                    Mileage: 110400 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:47:42

01550 - Signal for Reverse Gear
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 230
                    Mileage: 110407 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:43:53

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 103
                    Mileage: 110407 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:43:57


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 C    HW: 5N0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2001 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 37282223434C27AFAA0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 DA    HW: 1K0 959 433 DA
   Component:    RDK              0453 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 72BED33768AE82875DE-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 907 441     HW: 5N0 907 441
   Component: J772__Rearview      0021 
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number:    PA8 J920072
   Coding: 0100010
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6C82CD4F4A8A5477972-8038

1 Fault Found:
02203 - Audio / Video Input 1
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 143
                    Mileage: 113473 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                        Reverse OFF
                    Count: 3


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 C    HW: 5N0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2001 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 382A211F4E5228D7A3A-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 E    HW: 5K0 035 730 E
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007662355233
   Coding: 0A10040000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 2708F2639F6CB72F3A0-8072

1 Fault Found:
9458195 - Control Module for Cellular Telephone
          B1052 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 110153 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:55:33


End----(Elapsed Time: 02:00, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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Do all the fans work?
 
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my apologies for ignorance. what are the uses for each of the front two Tiguan fans.

example: if I'm standing in front of car looking into engine bay. there are two fans -- the fan on LEFT is slightly smaller in Diameter vs the right. The Larger fan on right is one I've seen in operation (and also runs as part of standard cool-down following ignition OFF).

any insight would be appreciated. thanks -GA
 
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The RTFB will show the fuse identifiers in the WD.......yeah I would find another shop!

Spin the fans manually and check the radiator for a blockage or obstruction of air flow.
 
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Hello and thanks for msg. This continues to be an ongoing concern for me (primary fan making a HUGE racket every time I shut down Tiguan).

I did not realize I could test the fan electronics with VCDS. I found this nugget via comment section on HumbleMechanic youtube videos.

01-Engine/Output tests/scroll to fan1 test.

both fans do spin up with no surprises. nice and smooth. no odd sounds.

This is Tiguan SEL with dual-climate. I understand that does make a difference on the wiring and use for fans.

At least I know the smaller fan works.

the problem: I understood for various forums that "smaller" fan is supposed to run when A/C is on. I'm not sure if this basic test applies to all Tiguans -- even those with dual-climate?

For example: the smaller fan does NOT run when A/C is on.

Do all the fans work?
 
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Hello and thanks for msg. This continues to be an ongoing concern for me (primary fan making a HUGE racket every time I shut down Tiguan).

I did not realize I could test the fan electronics with VCDS. I found this nugget via comment section on HumbleMechanic youtube videos.

01-Engine/Output tests/scroll to fan1 test.

both fans do spin up with no surprises. nice and smooth. no odd sounds.

This is Tiguan SEL with dual-climate. I understand that does make a difference on the wiring and use for fans.

At least I know the smaller fan works.

the problem: I understood for various forums that "smaller" fan is supposed to run when A/C is on. I'm not sure if this basic test applies to all Tiguans -- even those with dual-climate?

For example: the smaller fan does NOT run when A/C is on.




It is most likely that the fans are damaged from being run out or have poor/insufficient grounds to them...........very common since being made of poor quality parts, starting in the year 2000>.

The smaller fan is to come on when the controller sees the need for step up speed while AC ON when the car becomes hot.
 
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