G85 Steering Angle Sensor locations in Golf-based cars

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This thread is intended to help sort out confusion about the location of G85 (and therefore applicable procedures for crash repairs and module replacements). Specifically in some Mk5/Mk6 based cars, there is a 44-Steering Assist module for electric power steering while others have a hydraulic power steering unit without electronics or integral sensors.


Some applicable Wiki pages:

The location of G85 in Mk5 and Mk6 Golf based vehicles depends primarily on the type of 03-ABS and 44-Steering assist systems that are installed. In some cases the installed 16-Steering Wheel Electronics module type in addition to the BCM/09-Central Electronics module is also relevant. I can't cover every possible scenario but these are some of the most common NAR market examples:

  1. 2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos, Passat
  2. 2009 + Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW, Eos
  3. 2011+ Golf, Rabbit, Jetta GLI, JSW, Eos
  4. 2011+ Jetta Sedan and 2012+ Beetle
  5. 2009+ VW Tiguan, 2009+ VW CC and 2010+ VW Passat
 
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2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos, Passat

2005-2008 Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, Eos and Passat examples


Note: The (3C) VW Passat uses an entirely different ABS type. Make sure to select the proper Wiki page when working on that model.

The vehicle in this partial scan example is a 2008 GTI.

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65 77

VIN: WVWED71K58W330910 Mileage: 180380km-112082miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 73A95C6B12A554DE28-8026

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BP HW: 1K0 953 549 BP
Component: J0527 752 0101
Coding: 0002022
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 014506A35819764E2A-8054

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 352DA2735C510AEEC6-8060

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.3V)-----------

In this example we have Component: ESP FRONT MK60 ABS with a Gen 2 Steering rack based on: Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb

The 44-Steering Assist module does NOT support an internal steering angle sensor. If you attempted to read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report error.​
The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle.​

In this case G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. If you needed to perform a calibration that would be done in the 03-ABS brake controller using this procedure: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60)

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The vehicle in this partial scan example is a 2007 Rabbit.
VIN: WVWAR71K67W199291 License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WVWAR71K67W199291 Mileage: 175120km-108814miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105
Coding: 0017025
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3FC1C05B6E6DC0BE1C-806A

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 76AF657F01D741F60F-8022

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 342B9F77572B13E6F1-8060

No fault code found.

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This example includes Component: ASR FRONT MK70 ABS only (no ESP functions) with a Gen 2 Steering rack based on: Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb.

The 44-Steering Assist module does NOT support an internal steering angle sensor. If you attempted to read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report error.​
The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle.​

Like the GTI, G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. However, If you needed to perform a calibration that would be done in the 44-Steering Assist module using this procedure: VW Golf (1K) Steering Assist. The 03-ABS brake module doesn't use G85 data because it doesn't support ESP!
 
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2009 + Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW, Eos

As of the 2009 model year the Golf, Rabbit, Jetta, JSW and Eos models starting using a Generation 3 steering rack in addition to MK60EC1 ABS brakes.

This is a partial scan from a 2010 GTI with Gen 3 rack:

Chassis Type: AJ (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
62 65 72 77

VIN: WVWHD7AJ4AW057176

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AM HW: 1K0 907 379 AM
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H45 0108
Revision: 00H45001
Coding: 114B600CC9270001880C06EB931F0041B108
Shop #: WSC 06483 444 12345
VCID: 7DFAF9ADE4EA4F1

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 055 011
Coding: 0001832
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 76E8E68101DC1C9

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Coding: 00000131
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74 3001
Revision: 00H15000
Shop #: WSC 03743 444 178366
VCID: 3162159DA8327B1

No fault code found.
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In this example we have Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with a Gen 3 Steering rack based on Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.

The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor. If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.​
The 16-Steering Wheel electronics and Slip Ring are sold separately in this type of vehicle but G85 is NOT installed in the steering column.​

Even though G85 is located in the steering rack you would perform a calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
 
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2011+ Golf, Rabbit, Jetta GLI, JSW, Eos

As of 2011+ the Golf, Jetta GLI (only), JSW and Eos models starting using 5K0 UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel modules that may support an G85 internal sensor which is deactivated from the factory. Like the 2010 example above, this vehicle still uses a Generation 3 steering rack in addition to MK60EC1 ABS brakes.

Notes:
Make sure to select the proper Wiki page when working on those models!

2012 Golf R:

Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4C 52
55 56

VIN: WVWRF7AJ7CW226401 Mileage: 92580km-57526miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: 144B800C49248000280F01E4921A0141B70400
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: FBB9F4A17A5C509FB1-80AE

No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 084 G HW: 1K0 937 084 G
Component: BCM PQ35 B 110 0651
Revision: 00110 AC
Coding: 77190A3FF9272A04108800C171000C6C4A650486774D8DB0E48430248040
Shop #: WSC 12345 444 12345
VCID: B2271985ED9651D722-80E6

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 21121 26 0512
Coding: 009795

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BR HW: 5K0 953 569 E
Component: LENKS.MODUL 014 0140
Revision: FF010040 Serial number: 20111215300770
Coding: 100A160002
Shop #: WSC 12345 444 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
VCID: FDBDFAB96C485EAF8F-80A8

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A HW: 5K0 959 542 A Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H09 0013
Coding: 820000

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 251 3501
Revision: 00H20000
Shop #: WSC 58566 000 1048576
VCID: B9352EA9F0E0A28FE3-80EC

No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 13.7V/13.7V)-----------
This example is nearly identical to the 2010 GTI in post #3 in regards to the Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with a Gen 3 Steering rack Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.
The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor. If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.​

The major difference is found in address 16-Steering Wheel.
  • The Slip Ring is part of the 5K0-953-569 part number series 16-Steering Wheel module and some support an internal sensor which would not be enabled from the factory in this vehicle configuration. When the factory installed 16-Steering Wheel module is replaced it needs to be coded properly for G85 functionality.
  • Replacements should be ordered by VIN but the 5K0-953-569 section on this page should add clarity to the part numbers that do and do not support an internal G85 sensor: Steering Wheel Control Module Versions
  • Incorrect coding in a replacement 16-Steering Wheel module may prevent you from calibrating G85 in addition to causing functionality issues such an no horn, wipers, MFSW buttons, CCS and similar.

Even though G85 is located in the steering rack you would perform a calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
 
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2011+ Jetta Sedan and 2012+ Beetle

Vehicles such as the 2011+ Mk6 VW Jetta Sedan (16/AJ) (GLI excluded) and the 2012+ VW Beetle (5C/AT) do NOT use a 16-Steering Wheel module in the NAR market. These vehicles are easily identified by Components such as PQ25 BCM and BCM25.

To complicate matters some vehicles use a fully mechanical Hydraulic Steering system (PR-Code 1N1) and some use the Electro-Mechanical steering system (PR-Code 1N3) which includes 44-Steering Assist.

G85 can be wired directly to the PT Databus with functions such as MFSW controls handled through the Address 09-Central Electronics module -or- activated in the 44-Steering Assist module.


This partial scan example is from a base model 2014 Jetta S:

Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 56

VIN: 3VW2K7AJXEM404847 Mileage: 250km-155miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H46 0164
Revision: 00H46001
Coding: A14B200C512208FE851304E88A201061A1100012
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: FEB0BF60691F7FCA71-80AB

No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J HW: 5C0 937 087 A
Component: BCM25 JLB H3 H34 0411
Revision: B2034001 Serial number: 08018347130586
Coding: 7B994B1808AB0B0000302000240884D40042502E60000000300010002000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: B4245D4817D3659AD7-80E1

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN HW: 6R0 959 801 AN Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 5461
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS HW: 6R0 959 802 AS Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 5461
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M HW: 6R0 959 811 M
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5460
Coding: 800000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M HW: 6R0 959 812 M
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5460
Coding: 800000

No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:26)--------------------------
That Jetta uses Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with 1N1 Power steering meaning the steering rack does NOT communicate via diagnostics. This is the basic Hydraulic steering system similar to the 1998-2005 era Mk4 vehicles.

G85 is located in the Slip Ring​
This car does NOT have a 16-Steering Wheel electronics module​
This car does NOT have a 44-Steering Assist module​

You would perform the G85 calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)

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This example is from a 2014 Jetta SE:

Wednesday,10,May,2017,19:09:54:59530
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.4.2.3 (x64) HEX-NET CB: 0.4339.4
Data version: 20170505 DS270.4
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VIN: 3VWD17AJ4EM216966 License Plate: KIM'S REPLACEMENT JETTA
Mileage: 12190km-7574mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56

VIN: 3VWD17AJ4EM216966 Mileage: 12190km-7574miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0152
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: A14B400C49230000851402EA921F0041A71000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: FDB2B86C641964AFE7-80A8
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J HW: 5C0 937 087 A
Component: BCM25 JLB H3 H34 0411
Revision: B2034001 Serial number: 08013241130534
Coding: 7B994B1808AB0B0000302000240884D400C2502E60004000300010002000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: B4245D4817D365E758-80E0

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN HW: 6R0 959 801 AN Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 5461
Serial number: 14102585130807085218
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS HW: 6R0 959 802 AS Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 5461
Serial number: 14102584130808182213
Coding: 820000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M HW: 6R0 959 811 M
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5460
Serial number: 14102587130807215231
Coding: 800000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M HW: 6R0 959 812 M
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5460
Serial number: 14102586130809083434
Coding: 800000

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69 3501
Revision: 00H22000
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: B93A6C7CF0B1988F8B-80EC

No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:03, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
The Jetta SE uses Component: ESP MK60EC1 ABS with 1N3 Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic) so it has a Gen 3 Steering rack Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb.

The 44-Steering Assist module supports an internal steering angle sensor that would be activated from the factory.​
If you read Adaptation Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor it would report the stored value of 0 = Internal Steering Angle Sensor active.​

G85 is NOT located in the Slip Ring​
This car does NOT use a 16-Steering Wheel electronics module​

You would perform the G85 calibration in the MK60EC1 ABS control module using this page: VW Golf (1K) Brake Electronics (MK60EC1)
 
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2009+ VW Tiguan, 2009+ VW CC and 2010+ VW Passat

Although the exact production splits vary 2009+ VW Tiguan (5N/AX), 2009+ VW CC (35/AN) and 2010+ VW Passat (3C/AN) models typically use 5N1 part number 44-Steering Assist modules.

The LHD VW Passat appears to split 1K and 5N rack types during production at: June, 30 2009
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb​
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M​
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.135 H08 1901​


Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb​
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F​
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.082 0502​


5N1 part number steering racks with Component J500 do NOT support an internal Steering Angle Sensor.

RoW market RHD Passat models use 1K0 (Gen3 ZF) steering racks per the contributions from golfi_vend in post #6.

To complicate matters:
VW CC (35/AN) and VW Passat (3C/AN)
  • Models built before October, 31st 2009 use the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.
  • Models built after November, 1st 2009 use the UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.
VW Tiguan (5N/AX)
  • Models build before May, 30th 2010 use the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.
  • Models build after May, 31th 2010 use the UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module.

2012 Tiguan:
Chassis Type: AX-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 2E 36 37 42 44 46 47
4C 4F 52 53 55 56 62 72 77

VIN: WVGBV7AX1CW000438 Mileage: 81730km-50784miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AH HW: 5N0 614 109 AH
Component: J104 C6 450M VD0A 0003
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: 00000004361248
Coding: 0005161
Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
VCID: F1AA945CE84110CEF5-80A4

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BL HW: 5K0 953 569 L
Component: LENKS.MODUL 014 0140
Revision: FF010040 Serial number: 20110614101144
Coding: 110A140000
Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
VCID: F5A2A04C54293CEE29-80A0

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A HW: 5K0 959 542 A Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H09 0013
Coding: 820000

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 L HW: 5N1 909 148 G
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.287 0802
Revision: 1AH03831 Serial number: 00111610436101
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
VCID: BB367674FA8DAA9E1F-80EE

No fault code found.
This 2012 Tiguan uses the newer UDS protocol 16-Steering Wheel module. The steering angle sensor and slip ring are sold as one integrated component which is the 16-Steering Wheel control module. When it is replaced the coding needs to be performed before G85 calibration is possible. This is similar to the Golf R example in post #4.

G85 is calibrated in the 03-ABS module using the procedure on this page: VW Tiguan (5N) Brake Electronics

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2009 Passat:
Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (3C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65
72

VIN: WVWJK73C09P060202 Mileage: 191690km-119110miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 T HW: 3C0 614 109 T
Component: J104 C4 440 V2 0013
Revision: --025--- Serial number: 00000786428655
Coding: 0000376
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: AF2110FA3E1B9D3E02-80FA

No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW25.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AJ HW: 3C0 953 549 AJ
Component: J0527 0030
Revision: 00032000 Serial number: 3C5953507CN
Coding: 0001111
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: F4ABDF9697BDFEE6BF-80A0

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0030

No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.082 0502
Revision: 1AH02240 Serial number: 00083300157302
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: B9352EA2F05F438EAC-80EC

No fault code found.
This 2009 Passat uses the older CAN protocol 16-Steering Wheel module. In this case G85 is located on the steering column behind the slip ring. The 16-Steering Wheel electronics, Slip Ring and G85 sensor are all sold separately in this type of vehicle. This is similar to the Passat example in post #2.

Since this is the newer Passat with 5N1 part number steering rack and C4 ABS, G85 is calibrated in the 03-ABS module using the procedure on the same page as our 2012 Tiguan example above: VW Tiguan (5N) Brake Electronics
 
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