EV Thread

[Dana]

In regards to 10 - 20K mile ICE water pump, 40K turbos, 80K timing chains, etc... failure versus: Coolant ingress into HV components and/or the day my e-tron 55 gets sunroof water into 8C.

I think the coolant in HV components is gonna say; Hold my beer

 

[davisev5225]

I'll just leave this here:

 

[Uwe]

-Uwe-

 

[Andy]

Nerrrrrrrds. It seems like Sandy is nearly as polarizing as Elon ... interesting watch, at least to me.

 

[Sebastian]

https://archive.ph/20240410112510/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/byd-got-3-4-billion-chinese-aid-to-dominate-evs-study-says

 

[Bruce]

https://archive.ph/20240410112510/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/byd-got-3-4-billion-chinese-aid-to-dominate-evs-study-says

No surprise there Sebastian. This is "The Way" in China. Their intention is to dominate world markets. Remember that the government is a 50% owner in all of their large businesses. They are just investing in their long term return.

No surprise at the reaction. Protectionism is a means to control what other countries can do.

Free trade is the best means of exchange but when necessary, governments have to protect their own.

 

[Sebastian]

Indeed, I am not surprised either - even though these numbers are new, it was clear that there were subsidies. One of the main reasons why I posted this is, many here in Europe claim our own manufacturers are too expensive and while I agree that their prices are not exactly competitive in the low end market, this informartion helps to have a better picture.

 

[Andy]

For fans of schadenfreude:

 

[Uwe]

For fans of schadenfreude:

A 10 year old battery with no thermal management. The original Tesla Roadster had similar battery degradation problems for the same reason.

But that Leaf has plenty of range for your commute.

-Uwe-

 

[Dana]

Yeah! That's gonna be me and the e-golf but I doubt I'll give up on it. I could turn it into a legacy bench (for VCDS testing) that happens to have wheels one day

Or, really fancy chicken coop when it can't go 30+ miles anymore. It does have a heat pump.

 

[Uwe]

@Dana Since the e-golf has thermal management, it should not degrade as badly as those old Leafs or the original Tesla Roadster.

-Uwe-

 

[Andy]

This was kind of interesting about urban charging:

 

[Uwe]

This was kind of interesting about urban charging:

In an underground garage, eh? I wonder what kind of fire-suppression system they have in there?

-Uwe-

 

[Andy]

In an underground garage, eh? I wonder what kind of fire-suppression system they have in there?

-Uwe-

Maybe they have sprinklers that spray wet concrete ... seal up the mineshaft.

 

[Uwe]

People might want to stick with ICE vehicles when launching their boats or jet-skis:

-Uwe-

 

[Andy]

The limericks pretty much write themselves:

Nantucket Is Already Sick Of Its New Tesla Cybertruck Owner

Now you understand how the rest of us feel, Nantucket.

jalopnik.com

 

[Uwe]

EV startup Fisker files for bankruptcy, aims to sell assets

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-fisker-files-bankruptcy-2024-06-18/

-Uwe-

 

[Uwe]

Interesting:

Grid, utility limits are biggest barrier to commercial EV charger deployment: Xendee survey

A majority of EV charger developers and operators say they've run into roadblocks when trying to access power from the grid.

www.utilitydive.com

-Uwe-

 

[Dana]

Yeah. Similar to grid scale PV projects that are held up for years that's gotta be frustrating. When this company hit the press a few years ago:

Boost Power Pro - FreeWire Technologies

FreeWire's Boost Power Pro delivers 200 kW output and bidirectional power, making it a complete energy solution for high-demand environments.

freewiretech.com

I expected more chargers like that with storage and small grid feed requirements to be installed here. If I'm not mistaken, they had a 240V unit that could be dialed back to 10kVA back when they launched which would allow a tiny convenience store in the wilderness to offer some form of DCFC and back-feed their store in an outage.

 

[davisev5225]

The problem with modern EV charging is each individual charger can draw as much as 10+ homes worth of power. That's per vehicle charging if they do the full 350kW charge rate. (The average home draws a peak of 30kW per hour...) Now multiply that by however many charging stations you want to install, and it very quickly becomes an "economy of scale" problem for the grid.